And this reminds me: Do you plan on including this as an option in the patch, DJ? Just for those who wanna try and see if their system will support EAX?
Windows 7 Professional, 64bit
Installed in DX10 compatibility, customised package consisting of all the options offered, except for DromEd and the ATI mesh fix, with codec registration enabled. The game works right off the bat, with videos playing and textures displaying properly.
I'll report anything that I get during play, but this will likely be a while, as I have Heavy Rain and STALKER ongoing. As a general thing, though, this will be my first play through Thief II, so I'll only be able to report things that are obviously not working, not stuff that isn't working as it should but to a newcomer will seem in order (such as missing fog in various places, for instance).
A couple of bug notes:
- Using the Tafferpatcher to install the game will not add it to the installed programs listing, neither in the Windows menu, nor in the Programs And Features listing in the Control Panel. Also, the game can only be started from its own executable, on the HDD, as the autorun on the CD will not detect it as being installed.
- I don't know if this is an issue with the game itself or something resulting from your patcher, but attempting to run the game with no CD whatsoever in the optical drive will result in a cyclical error - first a "No disc in drive" message, followed by a "Please insert game disc", then back to "No disc" and so forth - regardless of the options (Continue, Retry, Cancel) clicked on either message box. The only solution seems to be to kill the thief2 process from the Task Manager. Attempting to start the game with a CD in the drive, but not the correct one, will properly result in a "Please insert game disc" error, which can be quit from with Cancel.
But, anyway, game works superbly and for that you have my thanks! I tried once before to install it on a Windows XP machine, the old fashioned way, without your patcher, and I quickly hit a brick wall that nothing in the FAQ and no one in Legacy Gaming could help me with. Again, thank you, DJ Riff!
P.S. I assume there's no harm in asking - I'm guessing, however, that seeing as your patcher applies the multi-core fix to the .exe, I'm stuck with that annoying CD check and I can't overwrite it with a No-CD one without having to re-apply the fix afterwards, right? Are there any other operations that your patcher performs on the .exe which would have to be done again if it were replaced with a No-CD one?
Last edited by Ostriig; 28th Feb 2010 at 14:31. Reason: I'd rather preserve the CD.
Ostriig, you need to edit darkinst.cfg and install.cfg (put ";" in front of the first line, that should do it)
I tried TafferPatcher with that version, worked like a charmWhat about the Sold Out edition?
The german version I tried had this "english" entry in darkinst.cfg and install.cfg. So I had to change that into "german".
Last edited by fibanocci; 1st Mar 2010 at 04:28. Reason: One more note
The reason why I brought the Sat1 thing up is that I wonder – since the patch content should be the same – if it's possible to apply this patch content according to the different game(version)s. If I understood this correctly then you're embedding those things anyway.
EDIT: Anyway, the patch itself installed fine. At the beginning it asked if I want to make my Thief2 install into a full install, but I have the dvd re-release version, so I had to choose no. Then it installed stuff, including the 1.18 patch, even though this verison is supposedly already 1.18. But none of these were problems in the end, the game works fine.
Last edited by Malleus; 1st Mar 2010 at 10:11.
Scratch my previous comment, I no longer get that error. At the time I made my previous post I had installed and run Thief 2 without restarting the computer, and I got that result. Now, though, the game has added itself a shortcut to the W7 Games folder, and running it even with no disk in drive (and copy protection active) will only result in the "insert game disc" message, which reacts properly to OK or Cancel - no more system "no disc in drive" and cyclical error check.Originally Posted by DJ Riff
It's more than enough for me, don't get me wrong. And, like I said, Windows appears to recognise the game in its Games launch folder, though it's still not registered with the programs menu or the Programs and Features listing in Control Panel. The reason I pointed it out is that I imagine that, if you're trying to target average, less technical, users as well, some of them may freak out when they decide to uninstall the game and can't find it, since one of the first things you get taught as a newbie about working with Windows is to not delete applications forcefully, but to uninstall them. Some may not realise that the game doesn't register itself with the Programs listing and is safe to delete manually, then promptly proceed to spam your inbox about it. As for multiple installs, it's probably safe to assume that the average user will only have one.Well, I thought the desktop shortcut (which you can copy/move anywhere you want) is enough. If it isn't, I can add optionally all that registry, Start Menu and uninstall setings, but it still will work only for the last installed copy of the game.
@ SinisterShadow & Beleg
Could anyone post here contents of SETUP.LID file, from CD1 of German version? (If there is such file at all)
Sat1 version (just in case it makes a difference):
Code:[Languages] key0=0007 Default=0007 count=1
Also, read this (Read the second post)! I know your against including a no-cd patch, but this is a bit different because the exploit doesn't require modifying the games code.
EDIT: Oh wait, you've already stated a way to do so. NVM.
Last edited by Albert; 1st Mar 2010 at 18:36.
After failing to do an XP style install on W7, I am going to give it a go with your utility.
Thank you for the effort,
BTW, I was hoping that someone would do this : )
...and as far as the No-CD thing is concerned, AFAIK, T2 is unsupported software, there hasn't been a patch in almost a decade, and a lot of people would like to play T2 on a netbook, with no CD.
Hi your program worked out pretty good for me : )
The only weirdness was that it wasn't clear to me the first time, what I was making folders for, so I just installed it all under "C:/Program Files (x86)/Thief 2"
Garretloader seems to be working fine.
I run both as administrator.
Using the Nvidia co0ntrol panel I added a bit of the old Anisotropic and AA.
Thank's again : )
Also, this, in itself, doesn't disable the copy protection anyway. It just tells the game to look for resources on the CD if it can't find them on the hard disk. Since you're only doing a full install, you don't want to ever look for files on the CD, so it shouldn't be there.
Well, I ran Tafferpatcher.exe on my fresh Win7 64-bit install, and it seems to be working fine! I've played through the first 2 Original missions, and have not had any problems yet. Widescreen at 1920x1020 is VERY NICE!
I made the adjustment to darkinst.cfg, and still get a few popups I have to "Cancel" my way out of, but the game starts up fine afterwards, and this is a very slight annoyance.
I have yet to install Garrettloader and/or Darkloader, so I haven't tried any FMs yet, but I'll be doing that soon.
And abandonware doesn't exist without official word by the property owners saying so.