Does the US version of Siren have the god-awful English dub that was included with the European version? (The majority of the characters would have British accents.)
Originally Posted by poroshin
It´s called "Velvet Assassin" now. It doesn´t feature new gameplay mechanics or an innovative setting but tries to combine features to a new (hopefully tasty) mix.
Some of the features. Bon apetit:
Over 50 different variants of killing/k.o. ing NPCs
Bullet time
RPG elements like talent points and abilities
Dream sequences
In game hints give you directions to real life buried "nazi gold".
Maybe we´ll see another decent game from a German developer.
Pandemic homepage still has it as "Saboteur".
Anyway, I'm not really interested in it for three reasons:
1. It's just partly a stealth game, looks like lots of shooting and fighting too.
2. I grew tired of killing WW2 Germans about the time MOHAA was released.
3. I hate Pandemic.
But Forbidden Siren 1/2 still aren't playable.
Isn't there a software emulator of PS2 on PS3?There are so many of these PS2 games I'd like to play. But find me a truly backward compatible PS3 and I'll be there
Not on all the models, no. The current European 40Gb version, for example, is not backwards-compatible at all.
And I don't get why they have done this. The version in all UK shops has NOT PS2 COMPATIBLE all over it.
Twits. I'd pay the extra for PS2 compatibility too.
Me too; one of the staff in GAME recently asked if I was waiting for 'the new backwards compatible model' to come out, so I'm holding off to see if he was correct about that rumour.
Regarding Siren, the US version does unfortunately have the crappy voice acting. Worse for me, there are no subtitles.
For fans of Death to Spies (Commando crossed with Hitman), the standalone add-on "The Moment of Truth" is being localized right now for NA and EU audiences. It adds 7 new missions, a slew of upgrades including graphics, gameplay, etc. A demo is planned.
I'm psyched
I actually have Death to Spies but haven't installed it yet.
Man, what I wouldn't give for a new pure-stealth game...
For what it's worth, all the current models of PS3 still have PS1 backwards compatibility. But with the likes kick arse graphical enhancements (eg upscaling, texture smoothing) provided by PSX emulator GPU plugins, I wouldn't bother.
So yanks really do have difficulty understanding thick English accents?
I remember reading that they had to subtitle the US version of The Getaway.
Sometimes they subtitle programmes for English television that feature British native speakers, if said speakers are considered to be from some provincial non-London 'backwater'.
Matthew: They do that here in the USA, as well. Especially on so-called 'reality shows', no matter the regional dialect.
As I understood, 40Gb models don't provide hardware backwards-compatibility, but isn't there a software PS2 emulator on PS3?
From the UK Playstation site:
'Will I be able to play my PlayStation 2 format games on my PlayStation 3 40GB?
No, PLAYSTATION 3 40GB will not play any PS2 format titles.'
No, there was never complete software emulation of PS2 games.
The 20/60GB US/Asia models had actual the Emotion Engine and PS2's GPU. The Euro 60GB and US 80GB SKUs had emulation of the Emotion Engine, but still had the physical PS2 GPU. The 40GB has neither, so no PS2 back compat for the time being.
I can't speak for other Yanks but I definitely have problems; largely because I'm hard of hearing.
Sometimes I can understand a British accent better than I can understand an American one, sometimes I can't. It all boils down to regional accents, which I'm finding out a few suprisingly weird things about my ability to understand. For example, I have the hardest time with most varieties of English spoken in the American south- but my ability to understand people from in and around Louisiana is spot-on.
"BBC English" is of course quite easy for me to understand, and in turn there are several regional accents I have great difficulty with. Cockney, for example, gives me trouble.
And of course, the clarity of the speaker is also a big factor. It's why I don't like being in the inner city because most of the folks there are all WIG WAH MUH FUH SCHWING BIBBITY WAH. Only thing that gets them to go away is to say "Sorry, I'm broke".
Ha ha. I like it dethtoll.
It's funny, I've almost never had trouble understanding an American accent (except that dude in King of the Hill who was supposed to be impossible to understand) until I got into The Wire (the BEST thing on TV btw). There have been a few times I had trouble and had to rewind but I go used to it eventually.
Now ENGLISH accents - that's a different thing all together. A strong Scouse or Geordie accent is impossible. But then again, those guys don't even speak English. Not really. Cockney is never an issue but then I did used to live in Laaaandan.
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You're talking about Boomhauer, right? He's not impossible to understand, you just gotta listen really carefully. And maybe being able to talk the talk helps a bit. Which I can do. Cuz I'm a hick too.
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Install the thing and go for 100% stealth. The game rates your stealth level after each level. You've got nothing to lose except finding something new that is available.I actually have Death to Spies but haven't installed it yet.
Man, what I wouldn't give for a new pure-stealth game...
I can count the number of pure stealth games on one hand. It's tough to make games like that and they don't sell in the million(s), which is getting close to the break even point now.
Uh, I'd say The Art of Theft (2008) is pure-stealth. Even if it's a platformer.
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I can't even list all of the free games/graphics-rendering engines that I know of on both hands. Maybe the TTLG community could dabble with an original idea?
That was the thinking of a Darkmod conversion we were talking about above.
There's no need in reinventing the wheel ... a huge workload would be the AI and visability mechanic. So since that will already be in place, you can coattail on that. From the beginning that's what I was thinking could be really great about TDM ... because we'll (eventually) get sourcecode access, it really allows us to break the core stealth gameplay out into new vistas ... stealth cyberpunk, ninja, spies, 1930s gangsters, scifi ... any setting you want to spend the time creating and tacking on the custom toys for. The core mechanic will already be there.
Fantastic! I need to read into The Dark Mod a bit more, but as far as I remember it's going to be at least December before it gets released. It will probably make me go out and buy Doom 3, a game which I hated.
I never knew about the source-code release (just Googled it). It probably won't be for a while, considering id Tech 4 costs a quarter million right now, but that's not really a problem I guess. When I learned that TDM was to be a mod for Doom 3 I cringed a little, not just because I hated the game, but also because I felt that a stealthy SDK should be independently accessible. I'm guessing that the release of the source means that not only TDM, but creations made with it can be 'packaged' separately from Doom 3 for whoever wants them?
Either way, bring on The Dark Mod.
I know it sounds a lot like a crossover between System Shock 2 and Thief, but I quite liked the idea of being some kind of space pirate/hacker with a tiny (and very stolen) stealth ship which discreetly limpets onto other vessels so you can board them. Each level being a different ship which you could tackle in an open ended way, hacking electronic systems not only to access areas and materials, but to cause distractions for specific crew members to clear up crowded areas by faking things like automated damage reports from far away sections, etc. Also silly stuff, like meticulously evil players should be able to finish a level by stealing codes and setting off a self-destruct sequence. I quite like the idea of exploring dynamic puzzle/strategy elements along with stealth too.
I'm just spewing out ideas, excuse me.
How about a game where the player character is an alien who has just arrived on present-day Earth? It is physically weak but very much wants to avoid the movie cliché of having to face the military, so hides in the shadows and carries out its motives using a swarm of loyal nanobots. There have got to be many fun things which you can implement with an invisible army of tiny robots doing your bidding.
In hindsight I must have ripped this idea from Dark City, but: A game where you're an expert in advanced psycho-pharmacology and obviously in some kind of messed up situation. To solve puzzles and advance you have to sneak up to characters and extract elements of their personalities somehow, building up a catalogue of chemical character types which then can be stealthily administered to others in order to change their behaviours and thus their environments.
Okay, I'll leave it at that. I don't mind if much of that isn't possible with The Dark Mod. I just wanted to vent it.
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