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Thread: Stalker: Lost Alpha is officially 'frozen' (sounds like a polite way of saying 'dead'

  1. #1
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Deutschy-Deutschland / London

    Stalker: Lost Alpha is officially 'frozen' (sounds like a polite way of saying 'dead'

    Bollocks, I was really looking forward to it.

    http://www.dezowave.com/lost-alpha-project-frozen/

    Dunno if this is just a temporary setback, but it sounds pretty final. And there are the inevitable rumours of corporate skulduggery.

  2. #2
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Damn, it was looking amazing. I hope they release what they've done so far to the community.

    Some gameplay vids:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWolfstalker2

  3. #3
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2004
    Location: Reykjavík, Iceland
    First STALKER 2 and now this? I'm a sad stalker.

  4. #4
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: Yangon, Burma
    Well this sucks. This is one of the recent FPS series I don't have to cross my fingers to honestly say I really like playing.

  5. #5
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Good news! The project lead, dezodor, denied claims they were cancelled on moddb.

    http://www.moddb.com/mods/lost-alpha/page/4#comments

    "Project is not frozen, or closed, until we finish it, we always had problems, but who not? Our lead programmer is off for some reason, and we have some engine bugs, and some other members are not sure when the programmer will come back, or even if he will. Thats the story, till then we work on other things."

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Deutschy-Deutschland / London
    Oh. The 'frozen' message has been nixed from the main site as well. What's going on? Some rogue team member getting all attention-seeking?

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2005
    Location: Not Kansas
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tibbs View Post
    Our lead programmer is off for some reason, and we have some engine bugs, and some other members are not sure when the programmer will come back, or even if he will. Thats the story, till then we work on other things."
    O.K. That's a bit unsettling. Hopefully the lead programmer will a.) get better, b.) be found, c.) just show up at work one day soon, or, they'll just promote someone already working on the project to take his place.

    After the Stalker 2 fiasco I don't think I can take any more disappointments.





    Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go kill some more snorks.

  8. #8
    Taking a break
    Registered: Dec 2002
    I hate to say it but I told you so

    oh wait

    I love to say I told you so

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Deutschy-Deutschland / London
    When did you tell us so?

    Anyway, you might have to reel your little smugboner back in a bit, looks like it's all been greatly exaggerated.
    Last edited by Vivian; 8th Jun 2012 at 05:39.

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: South Africa

    Lost Alpha

    Hi guys,

    I can tell you now this mod is very much not dead! Currently we're at internal testing phase.
    So far it looks amazing, it's already playable. There are so many new features added to the game. It's so big currently that GSC was considering making it a stand-alone game in the Stalker universe. However this did not happen thanks to GSC not being able to make up their minds.

    Release date is set for September 2012.

    Internal testing deadline is currently set at end of August.

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2005
    Location: Not Kansas
    OMG THIS IS SUCH GOOD NEWS!!! Thanks for the info & the update, Axon!

    Suddenly today just got a little bit brighter.

  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Deutschy-Deutschland / London
    Whoa, are you one of the devs? First of all, great news! Second of all, great work! Interesting that GSC were thinking about commercialising it, I can absolutely see why. People would pay for it. However, that does mean they would have to pay you, right?
    Good luck with the final testing, in that case, and thanks for the info! Cheered me right up. Like Dia says.

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: South Africa
    Sure Dia, glad I could make some fellow fans happy.
    I'm sure after this whole GSC fiasco with the Southern Comfort writer and their PR stunts we all need a bit of a distraction:

    I'm going to share some extra details with you people. But I do ask that you keep this confidential for now. Won't spoil anything I promise.

    1. After extracting the mod it's current size is 11GB. So it's massive, and worth every little bite.
    2. So much of the actual engine have been reworked that the Vanilla executable for Shoc won't work for Lost Alpha.
    3. It's unlike any other mod, although in some ways it does remind me of Priboi story, except with less weapons and more explorable space.
    4. That's right, maps are huge! Vastly different from vanilla and they feel more alive, but not over crowded. You're still a lone gunslinger causing mayhem.
    5. Though this time causing mayhem is not as easy as pulling the trigger, factions don't always attack on sight. There are hidden traps around every corner and what NPC's tell you should not be taken lightly.
    6. There are so many more things to consider before leaving the safety of a base and going into the wild. Ammo is rare, weapons are abundant but without bullets useless. Armor is extremely expensive and there are gas pockets where gasmasks are a must.
    7. The story is great, deep and has some funky twists in it.
    8. The NPP... is crazy. It's a battleground. It's hell in the zone.

    I wish I could give more details. Maybe I'll share a bit about my testing so far:
    I'm currently on the third map in the game, if you follow the story. And I just can't get enough. Been spending almost 12 RL hours on this map and I haven't yet thought about leaving. Even though it is a map we all know and love. <- Regarding this last statement, even though some maps might seem like you know them, be warned they really are not the same at all.

    *EDIT*

    Nope I'm not one of the Devs. I am a software tester for another company who's very much in love with the Stalker lore and really raced at the chance to test Lost Alpha. Though funny enough I'm not the only South African testing this out. One of the head developers is actually also from here. Which makes this mod even bigger for me. Been on TTLG stalker forums for a couple of years and after almost a year of not coming on I decided to check it out today. I'm glad you are all aware of Lost Alpha.

    I might have some sad news: It looks like we won't reach our September deadline, unless it all runs smoothly from here on (never does). Though the dev team is working around the clock to fix whatever bugs or errors we come up with. We're getting updates every day now.
    Last edited by Axon1988; 15th Aug 2012 at 10:50.

  14. #14
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    Better late than full of bugs.

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Deutschy-Deutschland / London
    That does sound fucking amazing though.

  16. #16
    Cuddly little misanthropic hate machine
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: 4 doors down, bad side of town
    Wait what's this about the Southern Comfort writer?

    Because Southern Comfort was terrible.

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Deutschy-Deutschland / London
    If they are talking about the film Southern Comfort, it was written by Walter Hill and David Giler, AKA the people who made Alien good and who should have really been contracted to fish Prometheus out of Damon Lindelof's nutsack. They do good, naturalistic dialogue. Well, they can do.

  18. #18
    Cuddly little misanthropic hate machine
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: 4 doors down, bad side of town
    No. They're talking about this:

    http://www.amazon.com/S-T-A-L-K-E-R-.../dp/1466220724

    It's a genuinely awful book. I didn't get past maybe 30 pages. I read a lot of nerd shit like certain 40k books on the good side and the old Doom novels on the bad, and I even suffered through the MGS novelization, but Southern Comfort was totally just a fanfic with a fancy cover. Typos, grammar mistakes, and just plain uninteresting writing and characters, the works. It was aaaaawwwfuuuul.

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Deutschy-Deutschland / London
    the cover art being a screenshot is not the best sign, I must admit. He's not even... what is that, the Berill? He's not even wearing decent armour, the dickhead.

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: South Africa
    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    No. They're talking about this:

    http://www.amazon.com/S-T-A-L-K-E-R-.../dp/1466220724

    It's a genuinely awful book. I didn't get past maybe 30 pages. I read a lot of nerd shit like certain 40k books on the good side and the old Doom novels on the bad, and I even suffered through the MGS novelization, but Southern Comfort was totally just a fanfic with a fancy cover. Typos, grammar mistakes, and just plain uninteresting writing and characters, the works. It was aaaaawwwfuuuul.
    Yeah that's the one, he's also released a sequel apparently. Well there's been a lot of public bickering between him and GSC. They want Royalties he promised them. He tells them there was no such agreement. You know, the usual.
    They've also let a lot of people go behind the scenes. That CEO of GSC doesn't have a FPS department any more. He's only working on his RTS games now. And looks like recently he became desperate for more cash that's why he's only complaining about the Southern comfort royalties.

    Also GSC now have a official Book Department. Tracking books with the Stalker universe in them. They also released their own book now, which is apparently even worse then Southern Comfort.
    Glad I never bought that.

  21. #21
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: South Africa
    A little something something you might enjoy reading: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/iop2ak

  22. #22
    Cuddly little misanthropic hate machine
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: 4 doors down, bad side of town
    Wow.

  23. #23
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: South Africa
    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    Wow.
    I had my doubts, though I was not expecting it to really happen. I mean GSC has always been understanding. They are a great company. Joe Mullin was a great guy who did it all for the fun of it. And now it's being exploited and used to engage in public debates and slandering. And also to sell books and probably other merchandize.

    I'd like to look at it neutrally though, from both sides. But getting anything out of GSC lately is almost impossible.

    Thoughts?

  24. #24
    Cuddly little misanthropic hate machine
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: 4 doors down, bad side of town
    GSC basically ran out of money, didn't they? Does strange things to people.

  25. #25
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: South Africa
    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    GSC basically ran out of money, didn't they? Does strange things to people.
    Spot on! The CEO pushed a lot of money into the series and movie that was supposed to happen. When the people he hired came back with a script he didn't like it. So he wrote his own script. Which backfired as the sponsors didn't think it was worth investing in. So he lost all that money. And then there's the more important side of it all: Development behind Stalker 2. He had a dedicated team who kept working on the game even after he stopped paying them.

    But they could only take that much, and while he was extremely supportive with Shadow Of Chernobyl, when Call Of Prypiat came out he only really cared for money. Which is a worthy thing to aim on, but you must be careful as it can backfire.

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