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AdTropis
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posted February 09, 1999 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AdTropis   Click Here to Email AdTropis     Edit Message
I swear I have been through ever inch of that level (except in the town, but that thing is just HUGE!) and I can't seem to find the last $100... I've even made it up on the roof (which was pretty interesting), but no luck.

Has anyone here actually gotten all the loot on expert?

Thanks.

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-AdTropis-

Caine
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posted February 09, 1999 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Caine   Click Here to Email Caine     Edit Message
Ad, do you really think they would spend all the time and money to build a game and make the objectives impossible?

There's gotta be 100 more somewhere, look on the mantle pieces in the rooms next to Ramirez's or maybe the gem in the fireplace or the chest upstairs in the library?

AdTropis
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posted February 09, 1999 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AdTropis   Click Here to Email AdTropis     Edit Message
I swear to you, I have looked everywhere! I have even used rope arrows in most rooms to look on top of paintings, doorways, and the like... I'm sure their Q&A dept. is great, but I still can't find that last $100!

I would just like for someone to say "Yes, I have found all of it". Then I could know that it is all there.

I don't know... maybe I ought to start searching the town. I tried going back to the shop thinking that a shop keeper might have some cash laying around, but no such luck.

Oh well...

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-AdTropis-

Slabber
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posted February 09, 1999 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slabber   Click Here to Email Slabber     Edit Message
See my post , I can not find that last 100 loot either I tried everything. i can only get 2605 out of 2705. I tried to pickpocket even the people while tracking the Assassins, looked in water etc. It must all be in mansion, the way objectives work; it must be a bug.

Ghost
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posted February 09, 1999 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
i'll look and get back to ya =]

DEMON Messiah
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posted February 09, 1999 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DEMON Messiah   Click Here to Email DEMON Messiah     Edit Message
I've done it, in fact i do it every time I play that level (I'm on the nineth time through, yes I have no life). I also kill all the guards, even the ones in the street at the end.

-DEMON Messiah

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Where am I?
Oh yeah, in the freezer.

redEye
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posted February 09, 1999 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redEye   Click Here to Email redEye     Edit Message
I looked around for about 20 minutes outside the mansion and found nothing more useful than crates (which can be interesting in and of themselves...). AFAIK, there's no loot 'cept that in Ramirez's place (which works well w/ the objectives - take the $$ from him...).

-redEye

Ghost
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posted February 10, 1999 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
Well...either 1 of 2 things has happened. LGS made a error with the total loot or we're blind =] OR maybe i found something that you didn't and i missed a piece that you got cos 2605 is all i found too and i looked hard! No guards had pouches, i checked all the mantle pieces, i even used rope arrows to check the little ledges around some of the rooms and even on top of the beams in the kitchen. I even took a swim around town and still nothing.
Can EvilSpirit or Laura verify there's really 2705? hehe thats on Assassins =]

Ghost
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posted February 10, 1999 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
One other note..i found a storage room key (or 3) but i never found a locked room that would qualify as a storage room...anyone got an idea on that one?

talon54
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posted February 10, 1999 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for talon54   Click Here to Email talon54     Edit Message
Is there anything at FARkasis that qualifies as loot?Just a guess I dont know.

AdTropis
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posted February 10, 1999 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AdTropis   Click Here to Email AdTropis     Edit Message
I have found the storage room. It is on the first floor. It is only a big room with nothing in it. No torches, no chests, no nothing...

In fact, on my game, when I opened the door it appeared in the guard's room that has 2 fancy blue chests and a desk with a readable sign above it.

Personally, I am beginning to think that there is a glitch. I mean, in a game like this, the Q&A is up to a tough challenge and things such as this can slip by. I just wish we could get an official ruling on it.

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-AdTropis-

EvilSpirit
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posted February 10, 1999 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EvilSpirit   Click Here to Email EvilSpirit     Edit Message
Ask and ye shall receive. The "DromEd" editor's mission report generator comes up with the following list of loot:

6 A FineWine vals { 0; 0; 50; [None]}
2 A GemRing vals { 100; 0; 0; [None]}
1 A Gemstone vals { 0; 100; 0; [None]}
6 A GoldCStick vals { 50; 0; 0; [None]}
10 A GoldCoinStack vals { 25; 0; 0; [None]}
5 A GoldGoblet vals { 25; 0; 0; [None]}
2 A GoldPlate vals { 50; 0; 0; [None]}
1 A Necklace vals { 100; 100; 0; [None]}
1 A Purse vals { 100; 0; 0; [None]}
1 A RamirezSignet vals { 100; 0; 0; [None]}
1 A Tiara vals { 75; 50; 0; [None]}
7 A TrGobPurp vals { 0; 0; 15; [None]}
1 A TrVaseGold vals { 100; 0; 0; [None]}
1 A TrVaseGreen vals { 0; 0; 50; [None]}
1 A TrVaseIndigo vals { 0; 0; 100; [None]}
1 RamirezPurse vals { 250; 0; 0; Special 2}
1 SilverPoker vals { 100; 0; 100; Special 1}

You can generally make a pretty good guess as to the object described from its symbolic name, e.g. "A TrVaseGreen" is a green vase. The full report actually includes x,y,z coordinates for each item, but this seemed like enough to figure out what you were missing.

I note that it's likely that you're missing a single item valued at 100, of which there are only a few examples. Those would be: a gold vase, an indigo vase, Ramirez' signet ring, a purse, a gemstone, and two gem-studded rings. Also, from the totals (1800 gold, 250 gems, 655 goods) you can at least tell whether you're short of gold, gems, or goods.

Caine
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posted February 10, 1999 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Caine   Click Here to Email Caine     Edit Message
EvilSpirit
posted February 10, 1999 12:46 PM ET (US)

Ask and ye shall receive. The "DromEd" editor's mission report generator comes up with the following list of loot:

Ask and ye shall receive eh? We've been asking for the editor.......*HINT HINT WINK WINK* Come on Evil, We know you guys are just sitting there letting us sweat.

How much do we have to beg? Hell, one guy on this thread has played Assassins 9 times through on expert.....pretty telling sign I think....a sign that Thief fans are hungry, you've filled a demand that we all had, a great FPS like NONE OTHER, only problem is, we can't do anything to further its playablility, except maybe making our own rules......"Okay, this time through, every 5th step I have to jump, turn around 5 times and recite 4 Hammerite Psalms."......

EVIL, I'm begging here....The editor may be ugly, but at least it works...

Sincerely,
A representative of all Thief: The Dark Project players

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Be Smart, Be Safe, Be Quiet!

Caine


EvilSpirit
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posted February 10, 1999 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EvilSpirit   Click Here to Email EvilSpirit     Edit Message
Well, I didn't say ye shall receive right away.

DEMON Messiah
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posted February 10, 1999 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DEMON Messiah   Click Here to Email DEMON Messiah     Edit Message
Caine
Ask and ye shall receive eh? We've been asking for the editor
EvilSpirit
Well, I didn't say ye shall receive right away.

I think I'm gonna cry, I'm just so happy.

-DEMON Messiah

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Where am I?
Oh yeah, in the freezer.

talon54
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posted February 10, 1999 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for talon54   Click Here to Email talon54     Edit Message
Just one thing. I hope we can actually build levels with it.I have the Unreal level editor and Worldcraft and I cant get either to work properly!!!

Caine
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posted February 10, 1999 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Caine   Click Here to Email Caine     Edit Message
ALL HAIL EVILSPIRIT

*holds back the tears of joy*

Viktoria
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posted February 10, 1999 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Viktoria   Click Here to Email Viktoria     Edit Message
Oh, thanks, Evil Spirit!! I, too, was completely at a loss with this level...it's plain crazy how irritating it is to come up short in the end...especially by such a small amount as 100 gold!! I spent an entire evening combing through the city, trying to find last bits of gold, had to move on anyway...cuz I couldn't find it even after all that scrounging...

Ghost
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posted February 10, 1999 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
Thanks EvilSpirit =] guess i missed one of those rings since i only recall picking up 1 (second floor in a room next to Ramirez' bedroom)
And is there a way we can get a hold of the COMPLETE list?? muaahahah for the whole game i mean...there is a treasure guide in the works and that would make it so much easier =P
or at least tell me how to crack open the files with that info in it hehe

Spire
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posted February 10, 1999 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spire     Edit Message
EvilSpirit, if you're willing to post the complete list (with full map coordinates), I'd like to use that data to create graphical treasture maps for all of the missions.
I've been wanting to make these maps for some time, but without the treasure data, it's too tedious (as well as inaccurate) to replay the entire game and write everything down by hand.

[This message has been edited by Spire (edited February 10, 1999).]

Lytha
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posted February 10, 1999 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lytha   Click Here to Email Lytha     Edit Message
I missed the RamirezSignet. I got a ring in the bib, another in the guest room near Ramirez bedroom, and I remember that there is another ring in the bathroom in normal difficulty, but not in expert mode.

*Where is it?*


Oh dear, I played the Ramirez-map once again... The 6th time in expert mode... Only to find out what I missed... oh dear, I should drop into bed and have those pretty nightmares again - this time about the Ramirez-map in my best time so far...

Lytha
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posted February 10, 1999 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lytha   Click Here to Email Lytha     Edit Message
And, before I forget it in my sleepy condition: *Thank you, EvilSpirit* :-)

redEye
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posted February 10, 1999 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redEye   Click Here to Email redEye     Edit Message
heehee... oh, the interesting plays on words. time will tell... and perhaps some nice Hammerite-style prayer. but the output from DromEd seems fairly clean and borderline intuitive, AFAICT.

I think I found a use for the storage room key... I found it on each of 2 guards who normally stand in the room at the base of the secret that leads to the library (it has a wood floor, 2 chests, and a note on the wall about breaking fingers). If you leave that room and go into the hall (not the stairs), then make an immediate right, the door you're facing should be openable by the storage key. I've used it, and I've seen the guard use it, so it seems reliable...

-redEye

Caine
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posted February 10, 1999 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Caine   Click Here to Email Caine     Edit Message
redeYe, AFAICT?

I know what it means, but boy oh boy you love abbreviations.....

*ROTFLMAOSHMBCOOMN*

Lytha
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posted February 11, 1999 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lytha   Click Here to Email Lytha     Edit Message
Hey, redEye, you got the solution for that tricky question! ;-)

lol

Pheonix
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posted February 11, 1999 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pheonix   Click Here to Email Pheonix     Edit Message
About the 3 rings (2 Jeweled, and 1 Signet.) I've found 2 rings (I think they are the Jeweled ones.) 1 ring I found was on a table next to a note about the Burricks, near the Master Bedroom. The other ring was in a Box in the library. I searche HIGH and LOW in the Bathroom - No ring. I'm also having trouble figuring out what a bib is?!?! (In relation to the game that is.)

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redEye
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posted February 11, 1999 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for redEye   Click Here to Email redEye     Edit Message
talon: shhhh! no talking about how the editor has to be user-fiendly. it's just not allowed ;-)

caine: rolling on the floor, laughing my ass of so hard my butt comes out of my nose?

lytha: you mean the storage room thing? if so, it's cuz i spent much time there the other day... hard to sneak up on people in full electric light on a wooden floor ;-)

-redEye

Lytha
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posted February 11, 1999 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lytha   Click Here to Email Lytha     Edit Message
Sorry, guys, I fell into german university slang, because it was *late*, when I wrote my comment. A "bib" is a library, and short for "Bibliothek". I ment the ring in the chest in the upper level of the library, too. Okee?

Did anyone find the 3rd ring?

Caine
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posted February 11, 1999 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Caine   Click Here to Email Caine     Edit Message
redeYe, So very close....

Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off so hard milk bubbles come out of my nose

AdTropis
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posted February 11, 1999 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AdTropis   Click Here to Email AdTropis     Edit Message
Well, I've played on all 3 skill levels and I can't find the Signet ANYWHERE! My thoughts were that it should be next a piece of parchment as signet rings were commonly used to stamp wax onto parchment, thereby sealing it with the master's official 101 proof royal seal.

But, the only place I have seem something like that is in the room next to Ramirez's where there is a GemStone Ring on the table... not the Signet.

I was thinking that it was down with Ramirez, but the only things I found down there were:

1 x Speed Potion, 1 x Flash Bomb, 3 x Gold Coin Stacks, 1 x Parchment, 1 x Water Arrow, 1 x Moss Arrow

No RING! Maybe the Burricks ate it?

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-AdTropis-

Lytha
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posted February 11, 1999 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lytha   Click Here to Email Lytha     Edit Message
redEye: Yes, I mean this key-thing. ;-) The guards room is much easier, if you go there before the guys in the garden and in the storage room started their conversation. They go into the guards after finishing their babbling.

AdTropis: I remember that there was a ring in the bathroom when I played the map in normal or hard mode. A little golden thing, as far as I remember. But I havent played this map in those difficulties far too long, so I wouldnt swear on it.

talon54
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posted February 11, 1999 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for talon54   Click Here to Email talon54     Edit Message
REDEYE:not user friendly.When I get done and I run the program,I want it to compile not say:This program has performed an illegal operation!!!

Pheonix
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posted February 11, 1999 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pheonix   Click Here to Email Pheonix     Edit Message
Are we absolutely sure that the signet is a ring? They sometimes come as wands. They are not always rings. I also believe they come in other forms but wands and rings are the only ones I can thing of.

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EvilSpirit
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posted February 11, 1999 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EvilSpirit   Click Here to Email EvilSpirit     Edit Message
In this case the signet is a ring, yes. I've seen the thing.

Pheonix
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posted February 11, 1999 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pheonix   Click Here to Email Pheonix     Edit Message
Uh... Could you *please,please,please,please,PLEASE* tell us where it is!!!

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Wrichards
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posted February 11, 1999 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wrichards   Click Here to Email Wrichards     Edit Message
"Only Through Stealth Can One Achieve Thier Goals"
Or through Begging Desperatly,
oh ya- Release the EDITOR.....
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And there was much rejoiceing

[This message has been edited by Wrichards (edited February 11, 1999).]

Slabber
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posted February 12, 1999 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slabber   Click Here to Email Slabber     Edit Message
I used the data fron EvilSpirit from the game output and I checked off every item and verified amounts as I went. It is absolutely 100 of gold and has to be the Rameriz signet ring. there are only TWO rings in the game. the thing in bathroom is the Tiara (hand braclet) 75 gold, 50 gems and is NOT the Signet. The purse of 100 gold must be the blue box by silver poker.
This is a bug. the one gemstone ring is on table by parchment, the other is in wooden box in libarary. Sorry I am such a perfectionist on this but I been over this at leat 20 times every way. No one could have seen the Signet ring or it is hidden better than I can imagine prove it too me that some one found it by saying where it is at. I am writing down everything I find and where and difficulty. It is not the Tiara braclet in bathroom, verify it by amounts. I give up... 1700 gold , 250 gem, 655 goods.
total is 2605. I agree with the others on this. If the designers can show me different I will be absolutely feel stupid. thanks for any help.

Slabber
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posted February 12, 1999 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slabber   Click Here to Email Slabber     Edit Message
By the way, the pet Burricks did not eat it the 100 loot of gold because I gutted them good and dug around the pen and looked in the water. Nothing . No Rameriz Signet Ring.

Pheonix
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posted February 12, 1999 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pheonix   Click Here to Email Pheonix     Edit Message
I'm starting to agree that it was a bug. I could have sworn that I had found everything in this mission before though . With the difficulty I'm having now, I'm starting to doubt my memory a bit. I wish EvilSpirit would either relieve our anxious minds and tell us where it is, or at least give us a hint. Failing that, maybe he could make those x,y,z coordinates available and we can wory about deciphering them.

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Ghost
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posted February 12, 1999 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
It's gotta be VERY well hidden, i have been on the level for over 3 hours, like AdTropis marking down everything i found, altho i'm sure what we're missing is one of these

2 A GemRing vals { 100; 0; 0; [None]}

not the signet ring, that was the one on the table near the parchment (it was all gold, no gems) the other one of these is in the library as stated =]
I even mapped out the entire level to make sure i'd been in every room (and i'm making maps for a treasure guide anyway) and if there is another ring, it's near impossible to see (maybe like the key in "the sword")
I'm sure when someone finds it we'll all slap our foreheads and say OH! i knew that!

1000 in loot to anyone who finds that ring! (and a free "we love Ghost" t-shirt, offer not valid if EvilSpirit posts where it is first =P)

Lytha
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posted February 12, 1999 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lytha   Click Here to Email Lytha     Edit Message
Ghost, the ring in the guest room (near the writing about renovations in the house) had a gem. I inspected it a long time, looked at it when it turned, compared it to the other ring I found in the library). That was not the signet.

Could it be possible that Ramirez had it on his finger? And that we must steal it from his hand?

I found the game mostly very logical, maybe we can find the signet by thinking? Where would we store our signet, if we had any? At papers, because we would want to do our signets on it, I guess. I dont think that Ramirez gave the signet to any other person, not even to one of his girl friends ( = we must probably not look in the servants or guards room). I would think that Ramirez would keep his signet in his bedroom, bathroom, writing room, at himself, in his own storage room.

Maybe it is on or under the table in the library, because I found the interesting notes (a letter from Bafford, e.g.) there?

EvilSpirit
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posted February 12, 1999 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EvilSpirit   Click Here to Email EvilSpirit     Edit Message
Hmmm. Okay, if we've got it narrowed down to the signet, I'll go check where the darn thing is supposed to be...

Aha. No wonder. It's sitting on the floor, and therefore appears as a little speck unless you're crawling in the right place. A shiny little speck, sure, but still... you'd never know it was a signet ring. But it doesn't match the descriptions of the other two rings locations you've mentioned, so it must be the one you're missing.

Okay, look in the bedroom in the Northwest corner of the mansion. On the floor, in front of the locked chest to the right of the bed.

AdTropis
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posted February 12, 1999 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AdTropis   Click Here to Email AdTropis     Edit Message
Well, hot damn! It sure blends in nicely with the carpet there!

Of course, it makes sense that it is there with all those bottles of fine wine lying about... He probably got totally wasted one night and just passed out in bed, not knowing that his signet fell off his hand and onto the floor. No wonder it wasn't put up anywhere, he couldn't find it either!

Glad to have this one solved... Thank-you very much EvilSpirit.

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-AdTropis-

Lytha
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posted February 12, 1999 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lytha   Click Here to Email Lytha     Edit Message
Thank you very much, Evil Spirit! :-)

I ll go and search there as fast as I can.

Ghost
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posted February 12, 1999 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
ya know...i searched the HELL out of the other side of the bed LOL thats just a WRONG place to put a little piece of loot like that =P

redEye
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posted February 12, 1999 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redEye   Click Here to Email redEye     Edit Message
heehee... german slang. nice, lytha. heh... i just had a german test about 5 hours ago. and on the storage room thing? i'm just now noticing how open most of the game is... i just went thru most of constantine's mansion, taking entirely different paths than i did the first time around. good thing, too, cuz those guards are badasses, and i had to off a couple on novice.

Caine? "Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off so hard milk bubbles come out of my nose," eh? got the Van Houten chuckle down pat, i see.

and ghost? come on, EvilSpirt revealed it; he deserves a t-shirt. i know he wants one ;-). i'd send him the ghost undies, but i already sent those back to you... hey, did you get 'em yet?

-redEye

Ghost
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posted February 13, 1999 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
EvilSpirit has access to the code! it's no surprise HE could find it =P

And no i didn't get them yet, with any luck they got lost in the mail =P

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