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Shalinor
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posted February 14, 1999 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shalinor   Click Here to Email Shalinor     Edit Message
Jest curious what yer opinions were on this... I have yet to start level 2, but I thought that climbing over the battlements with boxes was pretty nifty (though I was sorta annoyed at not being able to climb up the angled roof tops; wanted to drop onto the 3 guards into the courtyard ). Sort of related, odd question... boxes break when you fall on them, anyone ever been in a position to drop onto a human/creature?

Snoman
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posted February 14, 1999 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snoman   Click Here to Email Snoman     Edit Message
yes.

Cadfael
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posted February 15, 1999 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cadfael   Click Here to Email Cadfael     Edit Message
Slow down Snoman Aye can hardly keep up with yer verbosity.
Aye canst remember where Aye was but Aye've found meself standing on someones head afore. He wernt aware o'me so Aye faced the same way as he, readied the faithful ally Black Jack, stepped back and got a flying knockout out o'the deal. However the moment when Thief became my favert game were when in the Sword Aye were crouched under the bar as a ratface sniffed around fer me and all the while Aye were fillin my pockets. Once in Cragscleft factery Aye managed to lurk in the Shadow right besides the first hammermold, as the Hammerhead stepped up to close the mold "Whomp" with my pal and down 'e goes. That were the day Aye discovered yer could lean.

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Hist and Ho

MarkA
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posted February 15, 1999 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkA   Click Here to Email MarkA     Edit Message
Heyyyyy, nice thieves' cant. Problem is you're still somewhat coherent, you've got to try a BIT harder to make your posts completely unreadable, friend
As for memorable moments, I think the first time I somehow managed to knock a fully alerted guard out by stepping back into a shadow and whalloping him in the forehead with the blackjack was rather amusing. Oh, and then there's the demo moment where I discovered that Thief was realistic enough that a guard that you drop in the pool in Bafford's manner will in fact drown Or the servant I tossed on the kitchen fireplace...sitting there listening to him groan as he roasted was rather funny This game is fully of 'Thief moments' that you'll probably find yourself telling to friends who could care less.

Snoman
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posted February 15, 1999 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snoman   Click Here to Email Snoman     Edit Message
ya know, I think I'm through peerin' at Cadfael's notes tryin to figure out what he's sayin. I saw my name in there, but the rest is just mumble, anyone feel like translating below?

MarkA
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posted February 15, 1999 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkA   Click Here to Email MarkA     Edit Message
Not I, Snoman. If he wants to do his ridiculous in-character babbling, that's his business, but I for one am going to ignore it. nothing against the guy, but I don't do translation work

redEye
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posted February 15, 1999 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redEye   Click Here to Email redEye     Edit Message
come on now, taffers. it ain't all that hard, ye know. hell, after all the high ascii BS i've seen, this is easy.

-redEye

Ghost
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posted February 15, 1999 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
yeah but most people ignore the high ascii crap too =P everyone thinks it's special but it's way overused..like the annoying way people use z's instead of s's on warez pages..ooooh they're such rebels LOL

Zerker
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posted February 15, 1999 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zerker   Click Here to Email Zerker     Edit Message
Well, Cadfael, I don't mind you talking in character... but who's character are you talking in? Garret talks normally, as does(did) Cutty. All the guards talk normally. The apemen do the manfool thing, which is different. The only part I can think of that talks like you is a letter in Bafford's Manor...

Spire
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posted February 15, 1999 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spire     Edit Message
What's really funny is his misguided use of "aye" (which means "yes") in place of "I".
Well, it was funny at first, anyway; now it's just annoying, and it's the reason I no longer bother reading his posts.
No offense intended, Cadfael. After all, we all have the right to post whatever manner we choose, as long as it's within the forum guidelines.

redEye
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posted February 15, 1999 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redEye   Click Here to Email redEye     Edit Message
bah... yunz guys are overcritical (now who can place _that_ dialect?), methinks. me, i like reading cadfael's posts - they're different. and he usually says intelligent things, so you might be missing out...
*shrug*

-redEye

JordanCS
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posted February 15, 1999 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JordanCS   Click Here to Email JordanCS     Edit Message
Pittsburgh

Cadfael
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posted February 15, 1999 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cadfael   Click Here to Email Cadfael     Edit Message
Ouch, sorry mates. just read it w' a bit o'the London east side. If yer listens to the sort o'dumb soundin guard talkin about the bearpits yer on the right track. Aye'll keep it down to a minimum if yer finds it too annoyin. By the by lets remember correct spellin be a relatively recent issue as far a language goes, if yer tries to read any historical documents written afore 1850 yer'll se what Aye mean. At least Aye's consistent.

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Hist and Ho

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redEye
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posted February 15, 1999 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redEye   Click Here to Email redEye     Edit Message
dingdingding! give the man a cigar...

heehee... friggin' yunzers talking all 'bout "pop" and "sweeping" and the "stillers"...
you from the area, jordanCS?

-redEye

Spire
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posted February 15, 1999 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spire     Edit Message
Cadfael, the issue with "aye" versus "I" is not one of spelling; "aye" is not merely a "misspelling" of "I", but rather a completely different word, with a completely different etymology. It means simply "yes", and to my knowledge it has never been used to mean "I" (that is, not until you started doing it).
Anyway... this is way, way off topic, so this'll be my last post on the subject. Sorry for the digression.

Catalyst
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posted February 16, 1999 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalyst   Click Here to Email Catalyst     Edit Message
I'll do my best to bring this back to the topic.
This happened the very first time I played the demo in Bafford's house. I had just finished listening to the chatter of the two guards in the basement. I waited and watched and soon saw my chance. The guard had just turned his back to me when I slipped up and blackjacked 'em; took his body to cave I came from. Feeling pretty confident I smacked the second guard and dragged him back to the spot I dumped the first one.

This is where it gets interesting and I should point out that I'm attempting not to kill anyone.

I dropped the second body just as I had done the first, but this guy slipped into the water! Without thinking I slosh into the water and hunt for his body. I searched frantically in the dark waters but never found him. As I waded out I felt sick to my stomach for killing a man. Disheartened, I finished the level...and as I checked my stats, there it was: ONE KILL.


(poor bastard, I never meant to kill 'em.)

Cadfael
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posted February 16, 1999 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cadfael   Click Here to Email Cadfael     Edit Message
Immersion into the atmosphere of Thief is always a treat for me. It really brings back my days in the Canadian forces when I was a sniper, creeping around and taking as long as a minute for each step. Listening is the key to Thief for me and there is no other game that I've played that rewards this so well. As well it has some great elements of playing D&D. I 'll never forget how excited my group was when Greyhawk was released and the thief class first appeared. It was then and is now my favorite for role playing.
That was the point behind Cadfael as a character. He's not anyone in the game, he's just a thief. A barely literate one at that but he simply sounds out the words as he understands them. Most people who might have done late medieval second story work were surely illiterate, the educated steal by politics and shady commerce. Garret is the product of the Keepers and so is an anomaly, even in The City.

Hmmpf, well there 'tis. Yer can read it but twernt nearly as much fun. Try listenin w'yer minds eye an not so much w'yer fancy educations. No offence to yer out there but lots o' what yer says is lost to me. Soundcard? Alright deal 'em out.

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Hist and Ho

Sadism
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posted February 16, 1999 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sadism   Click Here to Email Sadism     Edit Message
Oh, now look what you fools did... I couldn't even picture the guy speaking in prude English until this. Sheesh, I guess you people haven't been around long enough to have a true appreciation of 'is dialect (err, it's a bit catching...)

MarkA
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posted February 16, 1999 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkA   Click Here to Email MarkA     Edit Message
Cadfael, I truly admire your creativity and ingenuity, but this is a forum, not a role-playing oriented MUD. I, and most others, don't want to wade through someone's posts and have to translate them, so thank you very much for dropping the character. Cute, but...it doesn't work in an online forum Anyway...
I've had quite a few memorable thief moments since my last post, seeing as I finished Assassins and The Sword. I think the funniest thing in Assassins was waiting in the shadowy patch just inside the outer entrance to Ramirez's and knocking out five different guards. I actually decided for the heck of it to use that as my 'guard dump' and piled no less than seventeen bodies in the area just outside Ramirez's mansion (opposite a streetlight in a very deep patch of shadows where no guards ever went!). I was quite pleased with having dumped nearly twenty bodies in oen particular spot (and only 2 or 3 of them were servants).

As for The Sword, there were many, many moments of amusement there, including dropping through a door in the floor onto a dinner table, and proceeding to drop behind a guard onto the carpet, and whack the poor bugger. And then there's my favorite moment in the game so far, the time I tossed a mine and /three/ guards wandered towards me to get at me when they heard the mine: two died from the mine, and at nearly the same moment I shot the third in the throat. Oucccch, Garrett the assassin.

Renko
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posted February 16, 1999 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renko     Edit Message
wow cadfael, you were a sniper in canada? all i thought they had up there were mounties, rogue militias and those jerks at customs whenever you cross over.

Catalyst
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posted February 16, 1999 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalyst   Click Here to Email Catalyst     Edit Message
Whenever I hear your name Cadfael I think of that medieval matlock on PBS.
I enjoy reading your posts, keep it up. (Just don't everyone start writing like that.)

Ok, I have another moment too. I was showing a friend Thief and how the guards react, so I was picking on the one that patrols just outside of the storage room in Baffords basement. He would walk past the window and I would jump to make him come searching, then go hide so my friend could see what he does. After he said, "musta been rats.." and walked away I ran out into the hall after him, he of course chased me back into the storage room where I hid. Eventually he said, ""where'd he go?" and soon wandered off. We taunted that guy until we squeezed every quote outta him. (must have been close to 45 minutes.) After we had had our fun I laid him flat with my blackjack, I think he was almost grateful. =)

Come to think about it, I pick on that guy a lot. Once I lured him into the first storage room with the 4 barrels in it. I got the barrels between me and him and slowly boxed him into the corner with them. The whole time he's shouting things like, "Come out here and fight me!." After he was trapped I completly buried him in boxes from the other rooms. Hhe stopped yelling and I eventually forgot about him. Some time later a guard was chasing me past that room into the cave and from the pile of boxes in the corner I hear, "get em!" and "You taffer!" I think the guard that was chasing me was as startled as I was!

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Keef
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posted February 16, 1999 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keef   Click Here to Email Keef     Edit Message
I remember the Escape level well... finally got into the mansion part, and saw an apeguy coming.. so I wait til he walks away a bit, and toss a mine.. the sound brings him back... the explosion brings five apeguys and a mantis!... I was lobbing mines for all I was worth!

P.S. I too enjoy Cadfael's in-character comments... it's fun to see him struggle with how to explain a complicated procedure when helping someone in his obviously under-educated role

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Stealing from the rich since 1980!

Marius
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posted February 16, 1999 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marius   Click Here to Email Marius     Edit Message
I'm pro Cadfael and I vote!

Keep it up, I like it. It's also almost like second nature to read such varied dialects when you've spent as much time poring over medieval a renaissance texts as I did in college. Just let your eye's flow over it and you'll get the words. Or ignore it, I don't care.

BTW, I've seen "aye" used in place of "I" in many more places that Cadafel's posts, and most of those instances were not in this century...

Ghost
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posted February 16, 1999 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ghost   Click Here to Email Ghost     Edit Message
I don't mind Cadfaels "speech", except on those really long posts where i have to sit and kinda translate, but on the shorter ones it's not too bad =]

And don't get me started on the Kanadian customs goons Renko =P

SoulStripper
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posted February 16, 1999 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulStripper   Click Here to Email SoulStripper     Edit Message

The second time I have ever played the thief demo (ballfordes manor) I tried to kill everything in the level, servants as well.

When I tried to sneek up on the sleeping servant I forgot to kill the torch and he woke up screaming, right out side his door was a dead body of the drunk guard so the servant ran put of the room and was gone from sight.


later on in the the same game I made it to one of the balconys overlooking the main entrance and here comes that servant.

screaming in a lame panzy voice...

"THERES A MURDERER IN THE BUILDING"

IS SOUNDED SO GAY, that it had be be the funnest thing I have ever heard in the game.

while I was on the balcony
he came prancing in, told the guards

"There is a murderer in the building"

The 3 guards in the main entrance ran up the stairs and the servant stayed there..

I eyed up the other guard across from me in the other balcony and dropped him with one shot.

Then I tossed a flash bomb right in front of the servant and shot him in the head,
he died right in front of the stairs.

Then the 3 guards returned only to find the servant dead in the middle of the floor,
I heard one of the guard say...

" oh shit.. what happened here.. "

it was great

Cadfael
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posted February 17, 1999 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cadfael   Click Here to Email Cadfael     Edit Message
Return to the Cathedral still gets me spine a'creepin and Aye swear Aye ages an extra year everytime Aye goes there.
Errr, whats a MUD, Aye thoughts it were what yer scrapes from yer shoes?

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Hist and Ho

Skapokalypse
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posted February 17, 1999 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skapokalypse   Click Here to Email Skapokalypse     Edit Message
Funniest moment for me would have to be in Assassins.. I was crossing on the second floor near the front entrance and the guard down below saw me and ran up to kick my ass. (alarm had gone off by this time) When he came up the stairs, i was standing in a corner and i had my blackjack cocked and ready. i changed my mind, deciding to put it away so i could pickpocket him. When i let go of the attack key the blackjack dropped and conked the guy's skull through the wall..

NightHawk
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posted February 17, 1999 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightHawk   Click Here to Email NightHawk     Edit Message
OK, not to insult the programmers at LGS about their AI (haven't been back to this spot since I got the patch, may have been fixed).

Funniest moment was in Cragscleft prison. I was on the second floor of the prison looking at one of those guys in the alarm posts, trying to sneak up close enough to blackjack him. Unfortunately, he saw me and started running in circles. I figured, what the hell and started whacking away. Somehow he got stuck facing away from me.

Well imagine Garret (dressed completely in leather) hitting a Hammerite on the ass with a blackjack.

Funny thing was, he seemmed to like it, cause it took about 30 hits to finally "kill" him.

BTW, Cadfael, more power to ya, eh.

JordanCS
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posted February 17, 1999 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JordanCS   Click Here to Email JordanCS     Edit Message
Redeye said:
"dingdingding! give the man a cigar...
heehee... friggin' yunzers talking all 'bout "pop" and "sweeping" and the "stillers"...
you from the area, jordanCS?

No, but my family is...my cousins all talk like that...it drives me crazy. I do say "pop" though...although I'm getting into Soda more now, since I've lived in NY state for 2 years now.

Kyloe
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posted February 17, 1999 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyloe   Click Here to Email Kyloe     Edit Message
Hey, there's a discussion on Cadfael's lingo going on for two days now and I've only just found it. So here's my two pfennig about it (whatever that means). Oh, and I'm not going to apologize for the digression, because, much as I like the game, there's nothing I like more than discussing language.

"just read it w' a bit o'the London east side"
Oh really? Up until now I thought you had modelled your dialect on Northumbrian. I understand it is meant to be rhotic. But London? Where's the h-deletion, the overacheing, the apical-fronting and the glottalization? And I think I remember from dialectology class that auxiliaries in the infinitive are typical for the SW (of England, that is). I'm not asking you to explain this, Cadfael. As you said, you are consistent in what you do. Please keep on posting your messages, which I like for their contents as well.

"lets remember correct spellin be a relatively recent issue as far a language goes"
Hear, hear! There's a tradition of using orthography to suppress people. Don't get me wrong - I'm all for standardized spelling, but it is often abused for other purposes. Fink about it!

"don't want to wade through someone's posts and have to translate them"
You don't really have to translate Cadfael's lingo. Come on you natives, even I can understand it.

Now redEye's abbreviations ... that's a completely different story. Forget what I just said about suppression. I say we all get together and make the man explain each and every abbreviation he's ever used on this forum. Come on now! Sign the petition! Bring you blackjacks!

-Kyloe the Bruce, language FREAK

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Those who ha' w' Garrett bled

redEye
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posted February 18, 1999 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for redEye   Click Here to Email redEye     Edit Message
LOL... IC that you changed your tag to "Kyloe the Bruce" - nice. *shrug* FWIW, I like Cadfael's posts and shite. OTOH, for those not so language-inclined, i can see how it could be penible - in other words, YMMV. heehee... i'm sure i could use more abbrevations (they're not really acronyms, IIRC, cuz they're not pronouncable or something).

And JordanCS - yeah, yunzerspeak can be really annoying. I grew up on the east coast, so I'm a big soda fan myself...

-redEye

lothril
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posted February 18, 1999 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lothril   Click Here to Email lothril     Edit Message
is this the right topic for weird stories an shit? i ll tell you what happened to me...i was in the begginind of the maw of chaos level and as i do sometimes i saved and decided to play a scan run... which is is obviously to start running to get a quick overview of the area before i start playing seriously..well as soon as i started loads of creatures attacked me and i started runnin...i did not stop for a single sec and panic stricken as i was i ended up in the ice caves near the fire elemental without actually facing any enemy and i only lost a hit point or two because of these stupid ice blocks...A saved straight away after 3 minutes of running. dunno if this ll work on other levels but for once a fast pair of legs was much better than hiding. that was really cool.. i think...wasnt it? (lothril the chickenshit)

Thaumaturge
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posted February 18, 1999 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thaumaturge   Click Here to Email Thaumaturge     Edit Message
I just got dont reading this series of posts and I'm pretty upset. You guys should be ashamed for making Cadfael break character that that. WTF Man! I'm with Sadism here. What a dissapointment.

Now if any of yous here guys start trash talkin Mr. Clause or the Easter Bunny now, yous n' me are gonna have us here a sits-e-a-shun. YOU GOT DAT!?! We're talk kneecaps here fella. I ain't messin'round.

This makes me want to go home and buy a dog...
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and shoot it.



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James Sterrett
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posted February 18, 1999 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Sterrett   Click Here to Email James Sterrett     Edit Message
Well, I am not at all bothered by Cadfael's dialect - though I thought it was rather Scottish (and a lot easier to understand than some subdialects of Glaswegian!! Go into Partick or Govan.... Heh. 8)

Greatest moments? Um.... Lots of them. Posted this up on the message board system before the one before the one before this one:


In one of the Thief missions, the object you have to steal is suspended in a
magic field. I managed to attempt a number of incorrect and increasingly
bizarre methods of getting at the object before I finally found the simple
and correct solution.

The weirdest attempt was this:

Two scrolls elsewhere in the level hinted at the power of "natural magic",
and the ability of certain flowers to dispel magic.

Well! Given the existence of extensive gardens I figured I had hit on the
answer. So I rummaged through them looking for plants I could nick and
toss into the field.

The only one I could grab was the old favorite, the Potted Plant with Red
Flowers. "Flowers!" says I, figuring that this must be the plant, despite its
curious lack of rarity.

So I truck the plant up to the field; and throw the Potted Plant at the magic
field, gaining a direct hit on the suspended item.

I was most disappointed when the field didn't go down, but the mental
image of a Thief carefully and seriously lobbing a Potted Plant at this
object still makes me chuckle. 8)


Counterpoint to the Potted Plant episode...

Just ran into a monster in the Cathedral mission.

The one iwith the red robe and the voices. Those of you who have run into
it will know which one I mean; the rest of you have an experience coming.

This monster is brilliant.

Not sure just why - but it is without a doubt the most blood-chilling,
spine-crawling thing I've ever met in a computer game. Just thinking about
them makes me cold.

Well done, LGT.... I've gotten used to them over lots of playing, but they still can get me. 8)

Kyloe
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posted February 19, 1999 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyloe   Click Here to Email Kyloe     Edit Message
OK, Thaumaturge, here's where I need a translator. But don't worry, one fine day I'm going to find out what you meant there.

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Those who ha' w' Garrett bled

NaeS
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posted February 21, 1999 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NaeS   Click Here to Email NaeS     Edit Message
I had an interesting thing happen in RTC.
I was in the cathedral and had killed everything but the zombies when I decided to kill them too. Used the holy water and let the arrows fly. When it was all over I found a 'holy water arrow' lying where one of the zombies had been. But when I picked it up it acted like a junk item (i.e. box, skull, rubble) and when I threw it, it made a squishing sound like a zombie head. I ran off to St. Yora's and threw it at another zombie but nothing happened (it went right through him). I hope in Thief 2 thrown items do damaged. Then one could throw a hammer at a Hammer!

Catalyst
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posted February 22, 1999 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalyst   Click Here to Email Catalyst     Edit Message
A friend of mine was real disapointed when he couldn't hit anyone with the shovel you find in the storage room at Bafford's.

Has anyone ever found anything in a box they smashed? Didn't think it would ever happen, but then again--I thought there was no point to cutting down tapestries either.

MarkA
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posted February 22, 1999 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkA   Click Here to Email MarkA     Edit Message
I found those ghosts absolutely spine-chillingly frightening. There's something so malevolent and frighteningly unhuman about that babbling of theirs. The only thing more frightening was the voice of the Eye. The first time I heard that horrible voice I just about lost bladder control. (I'm exaggerating...) Actually, nearly as frightening as the eye itself was those horrible death knight-type baddies. Their evil chattering was even scarier than the ghosts, simply because sometimes it made /sense/. "FlamesNothingButFlamesNothingButFlames." Brrrr...And when they saw you, they'd let out this incomprehensible scream with the word "thief" in it. OR they'd say, "JoinUsJoinUsJoinUsNOW!" I rapidly learned to fear the sound of rattling chains (a brilliant touch!)
Kudos to EvilSpirit and company. It's been a long time since I played a level that disturbed me enough that I had to stop playing it till daylight....I got to Return on Saturday night, and decided to leave it till Sunday afternoon!

Lytha
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posted February 22, 1999 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lytha   Click Here to Email Lytha     Edit Message
Heheh, MarkA... Same with me. I finished Undercover Friday night and decided to stop playing (it was not very late), because I didnt want to have such a bad night. I need still one whole day (2,5 hours, but much dieing and reloading) for that map.

But I found that jumping on beds or tables helps against the zombie-masses in St. Yora. You can wait there until most of the residents of that floor surround you and then use your few holy water flasks with much efficiency.

The waiting moments are really scaring ("Will the zombie realize that he could step on the bed if he moved his leg in that certain way?")

MarkA
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posted February 22, 1999 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkA   Click Here to Email MarkA     Edit Message
Hmm, never thought to try that, Lytha. I just ran the marathon around those rooms, somehow managing to evade them, hiding in a corner till they passed then running the opposite way. Lord only knows how I did it. Heh. I actually had two zombies chasing me while I was performing the ritual on Murus' grave. It was quite funny to run in circles around them,d art back to the grave, lead them away, dart back, nab the key, and run like heck. I was also unequipped to handle the very last zombie, unfortunately for him, he stood rather close to the gates when I detonated the explosive device with a fire arrow. Kaboom

Cadfael
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posted February 23, 1999 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cadfael   Click Here to Email Cadfael     Edit Message
Aye's lurkin in a crouch as Aye can hear somethin nasty breathin nearby... very nearby (new headfones). Aye realizes that it mayhap be behind so Aye swings around to see its knees.

This be the same moment my Da walks in an flicks on the light. Aye shite myself. Lager washes the filin cabinet, Aye kicks the poor dog at mye feet and flashbombs mye gameself. The crayman eats mye gizzard.

Anuther ugly day o'carnage in the Thief world.

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Hist and Ho

NaeS
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posted February 23, 1999 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NaeS   Click Here to Email NaeS     Edit Message
LOL Cadfael ... Ouch

Autolycus
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posted February 23, 1999 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Autolycus     Edit Message
I was mapping the 2nd level as my roommate explored when we came upon the first 2 Hammer's of the game. He's a horrible shot with a bow, and after alerting our ecclesiastical foes to Garret's presence and receiving a few broken bones in penance he managed to slip into the adjoining room (with the alternating light and dark spots.)
After hiding in the shadows, holding our breath while the first hammer finished his search we decided to creep out the back door. The last thing we saw was the 2nd hammer bringing his cudgel down upon poor Garret's noggin'.

I'd also like to cast my vote in favor of Cadfael continuing his unique speech.

Was anyone else disappointed when they arrived at the foundry and worked the levels to forge a hammer to find that it was considered a junk item?

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MarkA
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posted February 23, 1999 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarkA   Click Here to Email MarkA     Edit Message
I wasn't really disappointed. It does make sense. I mean, honestly, what use is a bloody great war hammer to Garrett? He's a thief. Swinging a huge beater is not exactly his style. It's a junk item because, to Garett, it /is/ junk

Kyloe
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posted February 23, 1999 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyloe   Click Here to Email Kyloe     Edit Message
The way, they are casting those hammers, they are bound to be junk items. They would have a brittle, solid shaft, and a hollowed top. And they would be rather soft.
The proper way to make a hammer is to forge it, so that it is hard on the outside and tough within. And you would mount it on an elastic shaft which is easier on the wrist and doesn't send the top part flying through the workshop when it breaks.

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Cadfael
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posted February 24, 1999 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cadfael   Click Here to Email Cadfael     Edit Message
Oi! Kyloe mye son, do yer mind tellin us here just how youse came to be so well knowin about hammers? Yer better start talkin lad er yer gonna end up wakin with a sore noggin down a deep burrick hole.

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Zelgadas
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posted February 24, 1999 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zelgadas     Edit Message
One of the funniest things that ever happened to me in Thief was in the Sword level. I was in the room right beneath the sword, trying to figure out how to get the drop on a pair of guards standing together in a bit of light. Anyways, I figured I'd just shoot one of them, which would lure the other into the shadows where I could club him silly. So I draw back the bow, and I let fly, and sure enough, the taffer goes down in one. The other one, alerted by the noise, turns and says "Are you alright? No, of course you're not!" I'm telling you, I damn near peed myself! Not really, though. But it was pretty durn funny. I also like shooting the guard in the training level with arrows. That Keeper sure gets testy! "Please use your SWORD to attack!" Cadfael rules!

Archdaemon
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posted February 24, 1999 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Archdaemon   Click Here to Email Archdaemon     Edit Message
I cast my vote to encourage Cadfael.
Odd Theif Moment: 1st level, what is it? Bafford's Manor? Anyway, I was showing a friend the ropes of the game. As I was eager to impress, I was a little hasty in attacking the first two interior guards outside of the storeroom. They both heard me, and chased me back into the cavern with the river in it. I jumped in the river to escape- so they climbed down to about ankle-depth themselves. I began stepping in and out of the water into the shallows, taking cheap shots at them, until one of them finally stepped into the deepest part of the shallow bit... as soon as he got up to his waist in water, he began sputtering and coughing, and finally drowned. I managed to lure the second guard into doing the same thing. Not a total surprise, but apparently these guards breathe out the arse.

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Seely
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posted February 25, 1999 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seely   Click Here to Email Seely     Edit Message
I always enjoy, on the Cragscleft Prison level, leading one of the guards by the stairs at the mine entrance to the factory out into that watery area-- he'll literally run underwater after you. I just leisurely swim along, staying just out of reach and head into that little tunnel between water openings, and sure enough, he cries out and drowns... no ammo wasted, no other guards alerted, body ready-disposed of...
Also, last time I played that board, I went through and either killed or knocked out every guard in the game, and stashed them ALL in the store room of the factory-- it was pretty impressive pile of bodies. It took a while to haul all of them there, too. The only bodies I didn't haul all the way down there were the two priests in the Hammerite chapel up in the barracks. I finished off the fireball priest by drawing him out and thwacking him with the blackjack-- the other guy ran off, and I ran him through out in the hallway, then, for the hell of it, threw him on the table in the chapel in a gruesome display. Hmmmm... I think I've been playing this game too much... (Cragscleft is one of my favorite levels, followed, rather unfortunately, by one of my least-favorite levels, the Bonehoard. Maybe I'll skip ahead to Ramirez...)
BTW, I've noticed the Hammerites do a damn good job against zombies-- I led a bunch of zombies to the Hammer guards in the mines and they dispatched the undead easily...

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Huckeye
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posted February 26, 1999 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Huckeye     Edit Message
The wierdest things I have seen are glitches, I think. In Badfords, I was crouching in the shadows just beneath the archers posts at the main entance. I fired an arrow, and missed. The guard ran off to the room behind him to search for me. When he came back in, I fired again and kept missing. He just kept looking for me. I finally realized that he was in the other room, behind his post, and was merely walking through the wall. Later I snuck up to the balcony above the pool and started firing on the guard on patrol, and facing certain death, he ran off to get help only to find a pile of his friends in the shadows. When he returned, he floated in the room in a frozen running poze, and made his rounds in this fashion until I finished him off. Lastly, in the hammer temple, I opened the door to the barracks, only to have it come completely off of the hinges, and float all the way accross the room and banish into the wall. It floated so slowly, that my friend and I just kept looking at each other with jaws dropped, trying to figure out if it was a glitch, or if I just discovered some mystical room. The room remained doorless for the rest of the mission. I have not seen a guard drown himself. I have been chased many times into the bafford pool, but the guards all stop at the edge and say, "this is gonna be fun" but do nothing. I then mantle up a side of the pool that is guardless and put out a candle and jump back in. I keep doing this until the pool area is dark. Then they all say, "where did he go?" and leave.

lothril
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posted February 26, 1999 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lothril   Click Here to Email lothril     Edit Message
about the freeze frame moonwalkin thing that happens sometimes..to me it only happens when i look at other characters from high up...or from underneath. in the bonehoard i was looking down on some zombies and they were all floating round and round like scaters ..when i came down closer to them in the minute i started hearing their footsteps they started walking normally again.. i think that has to do with programming economy...so when you are far away from them they continue going where they should but without spending so much processing power with the realistic animation!!!i am positive that if all the walls were transparent all enemies away from Garret would skate around! is it so LGS?

Kyloe
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posted February 26, 1999 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyloe   Click Here to Email Kyloe     Edit Message
Oooops! Me knowing about hammers? No way!

*stammer* I could tell you about poetry. I, I, I, ... am only a poor English Literature student. Look at my hands! Not a blister to be seen ... Oh that? That's from holding the pen. Look at my other hand!

*breaks into tears* Ok, ok, I confess! I used to be a mechanic. But that's years ago. And I was only a novice - I never practised.

-Kyloe, who saw the error of his ways

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Kyloe
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posted February 26, 1999 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyloe   Click Here to Email Kyloe     Edit Message
double posts suck

[This message has been edited by Kyloe (edited February 27, 1999).]

NightHawk
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posted March 01, 1999 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightHawk   Click Here to Email NightHawk     Edit Message
Kyloe, I was never a mechanic, I don't know anything about mettalurgy or forging hammers, but if you hit me with a steel stick that weighs 30 lbs., I do know it will hurt.

boojum
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posted March 01, 1999 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boojum   Click Here to Email boojum     Edit Message
Yup, the skating effect is to efficient-ize the creatures who are far away from you (for example, while you're sneaking through the streets of the city in Assassins, Ramirez's guards are all patrolling around the house, but they're doing so without playing their motions). Ideally, this would only have happened to creatures that you couldn't see or hear, but it didn't always quite work out that way.

-Laura Baldwin

guntharr
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posted March 02, 1999 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guntharr   Click Here to Email guntharr     Edit Message
Actually the hammers being forged in Cragscleft factory are not junk. The factory worker pours himself one and then uses it on you if you let him. My funniest moment was when I surprised the factory worker before he had finished his hammer. He saw me and gave chase. I turned around and killed him with my sword as he swung an AIR hammer at me. His hands were empty. He tried to run away after he was critically wounded, but I caught the rat and finished him.

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Andman
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posted March 02, 1999 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Andman   Click Here to Email Andman     Edit Message
The skating effect really scared me the one time I saw it, in the first burrick cave in Bonehoard. It was also the first time I saw burricks. I ran around in panick, trying to figure out what those pesky farting dinos were. I got away from them and found a place to snipe at them where they could not get me. But as if I were not scared enough, they suddenly started floating around.
But now that I finally know that it is nothing to be afraid of, I can finally return to the cave and overcome my fears.

One of my weirdest moments:
In baffords manor I used the secret passage to get to the throneroom. As I sat on the beams in the ceiling, looking down on the poor sod under me, I thought I would try to make some fun of him. I decided to jump down and land on his head, but it was harder than I thought. After a little fooling around and smacking F12 a couple of times I thought about giving up as I saw something really weird. The guard was standing with his head right under the beam I was crouching on. He was floating in midair. And he did not seem to mind at all, he just babbled on about his dinner. I jumped down from the ceiling, and he went a little further up. I jumped and tried to smack him in the foot, but he was too far away. So I shot him in the arse instead, and suddenly he was down on the floor again cutting me to pieces. I loaded up again, and the same thing happened. I just wonder if anybody can explain this odd behaviour.

A damn funny moment:
Also in Baffords, in the first room in the basement you enter after swimming. I read somewhere about trapping a guard between the barrels in that room, and I thought I would give it a try.
After pushing the barrels into a half circle, I jumped at the two guards chatting about the security. I lead them into my nicely laid trap of barrels, jumped over them and pushed the last barrel into position. The guards were obviously to dumb to see that they had been caught, so they just continued to run into the barrels witout getting anywhere. I think that is a nice way to deal with the guards on expert mode. When you cant kill`em, humiliate them!

I could go on and on about funny/dumb/weird moments, but since you are all probably tired of my senseless gibberish I will end it here. And if this post is full of grammar/spelling errors, I dont care because I suck at Touch you will manage to read it anyway.

[This message has been edited by Andman (edited March 02, 1999).]

Corey
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posted March 02, 1999 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Corey   Click Here to Email Corey     Edit Message
The funniest is when you're chasing after a servant and he's screaming, "Help! Help! Save me!" and you konk him over the head and hear a giddy, "Ooooh!" from him. It almost sounds like that part on Monty Python and the holy Grail when the woosie son is trying to climb out of the tower using tied bedsheets, and the father decides to cut the rope, and we hear the son go, "Oooh!" when he realises he's falling.

Nevermore
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posted March 02, 1999 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nevermore   Click Here to Email Nevermore     Edit Message
The really silly moments for me happened in Cragscleft... that's when I saw first hand how tough the hammers were. When I was trying to get through the factory when I saw a hammer standing right in the middle of one of those boiling metal pots ... those must be some tough mothers to be able to stand in a pot of burning liquid metal and not even flinch ... but the most odd moment came when I was trying to get the key from the wizard... I made some noise to bring him out so I could pick pocket him ... but his lil assistant started coming my way. I was about ready to pop him when I noticed he was walking right into me without notice. So I thought I was safe ... until I noticed I was looking right into his mid section and he was still walking in place right in front of me... I had an ambiguously(hope I spelled that right) gay duo moment.

Archdaemon
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posted March 02, 1999 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Archdaemon   Click Here to Email Archdaemon     Edit Message
Ok, I was bored with the Lost City, so I went back to Bafford's and killed everyone. One thing I found- it IS possible to fit every single corpse into the fireplace in the kitchen. Mmm.... tasty.
If any of you have had this experience let me know- I was hacking an archer to bits, and when I thought he was dead I kept hacking, and it seems to me he came back to life for a few more beatings, like I'd beaten him back to life... if anyone else has seen this, lemme know.. otherwise I may have just thought he was dead before he actually was.. I'm gonna hafta go try this again- juggling a dying man on my blades to see if I can knock the sense back into him. Hrmmm....

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Andman
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posted March 03, 1999 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Andman   Click Here to Email Andman     Edit Message
Hey Corey, thanks for reminding me about that scene in The Holy Grail! Haahahahahaahaaahhahrhaharhahaghharrghhrrgghh*cough*choke*thump* (sorry `bout that, I just choked on my own laughter. Damn that tea. I am warning you man, it does weird things to you.)

I had a weird experience in Cragsleft, at the place Nevermore talks about a few posts up where a priest and a novice(?) is talking. They spotted me and the novice started to run after shouting some lame remarks. The guards came and searched the place, but due to their very bad nightvision, or the fact that they have as much brains as a carpet, they did not see what they kept tripping over in the shadows. When the guards had left, the novice came walking by and I jumped from the shadows just to hear him scream his head off. But instead of running away, he took a swordfighting position, with his hand out in front of him like he had a weapon. He only stood there, ready to fight, and shouting insults and things like "Ahaaaa!!". When I tried to get away, he followed me. Where ever I went he was but a pace behind me.
So that is how I got my new pet. He is really cute and all, but at nights I have to club him in the head to shut him up.

Keldar
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posted March 03, 1999 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keldar   Click Here to Email Keldar     Edit Message
WAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

LOL!!!!!

PET!!!!!

I just have to get one of my own... I think IŽll name him Vic

One xtreamly fun thing to to is to trick a few ratmen into a area there u can run around in a cirkle and wack ther stupid heads and just run bye them. (works xtreamly well in the Escape! level, I wacked 9-12 ratmen there

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CaptNOVA5
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posted March 03, 1999 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CaptNOVA5   Click Here to Email CaptNOVA5     Edit Message
I just got the game moday if this week
im now on level to in the factory and killed or BJacked all the Hammerheads exept one.
i couldent sneak up behind this guy and i had spent all my arrows by this time (guess ill have to learn to buy tons of arrows now that i knwo money doesnt carry over) anyhow i found a way of getting him. drop off the ledge above. we was somewhat spooked since all his "Brothers" wouldent respond to his calls. i droped off the ledge with my black-jack out. i had recently spent my last arrow to distract him just before i droped. he was muttering somthing about leaving my to the Builder at this time i dropped his voice began to raise in terror and i mean it
Ill Leave Thee tooo thee BUIL *thwak* he got KOed. i was laughing so hard i fell out of my chair. its good to terrorize the enemy, he respons much slower to the inital apperance.
he haddent even draw his sword.

sorry bout my horrible grammer

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