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      <Kasakitis>mornign cat :)
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      <Trimfect>Good morning...
      <Kasakitis>morning trimfect :)
      <Kasakitis>so how's gatb coming along?
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      <Trimfect>Uhh... It is. Fixing bugs and trying to get the AI debug-mode 
      working.. Not much luck yet...
      <Trimfect>I want to get the "ai_flow_watch" working. Any ideas? 
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      <Kasakitis>ah ok
      <Kasakitis>um.. no, fraid not :-/
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      <Kasakitis>i've not done much with ai, i'm just building rooms so far..
      <Trimfect>Yeah.. Think of the AI's as you make the building. (What ever 
      that means...)
      <Kasakitis>hehe.. ok. yeah, i'm tryign to have it in mind. but i've not 
      done anything complicated yet sadly :)
      <Trimfect>Argh, work... 
      <Catalyst`>suddenly catty wakes up.
      <Kasakitis>hehe.. heya cat
      <Catalyst`>he rolls over.
      <Catalyst`>and goes back to sleep, but not without placing a small 
      placecard on his chest
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      <Tommyboy>Hello
      <Tommyboy>hmmmm
      <Kasakitis>hye tommy
      <Trimfect>Ho-ho-ho
      <Tommyboy>and a merry...er, never mind
      <Trimfect>Hey ho. And of we go. Not.
      <Tommyboy>:)
      <Trimfect>Anyone tried the Banshee's level?
      <CatSLEEP>briefly
      <Trimfect>Is it any good? Does GatN have a competitor? :)
      <CatSLEEP>(no)
      <CatSLEEP>:)
      <CatSLEEP>It's not bad for a few days work though.
      <Trimfect>Ah... I'll have to check it out later...
      <Kasakitis>i just downlaoded.. i'll check it out tonight if i have time... 
      and if i can stay away from dromed :)
      <Tommyboy>where can I find this level?
      <CatSLEEP>check the editors forum
      <Trimfect>What topic? Something special?
      <CatSLEEP>'my level' or something, its posted by banshee.....
      <Kasakitis>it's from banshee
      * Kasakitis looks aroudn.. echoes in here, hmm.. 
      <Trimfect>echoes in here?
      <Trimfect>hmm..
      * CatSLEEP looks around.. echoes in here, in here, in here, in here.... 
      <Kasakitis>hehhee
      <Trimfect>rein he rein he...
      <Trimfect>Urgh.
      <Tommyboy>how big is the file?
      <CatSLEEP>600k maybe? i dunno prolly less than a meg.
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      <Trimfect>No, you are not really sleeping, or are you?
      <CatREALLYSLEEPING>ahhh! He's calling my bluff...
      <Trimfect>HA! Gotcha!
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      <Trimfect>Hum-de-dumm..
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      <Trimfect>Man, cat was really sleeping....
      <Kasakitis>hehe... sure looks like it
      <Trimfect>Twiddle twiddle...
      <Kasakitis>heh. how's workin going?
      * Kasakitis is tryign to avoid her work 
      <Trimfect>Just installed Netscape 4.6 with enterprising calendar. *sigh*
      <Trimfect>That pretty much explains my bored-factor...
      <Kasakitis>ouch... yeah, i can see that
      <Kasakitis>hmm.. tiem to hassle hte programmers again. brb
      <Trimfect>Huhh?
      <Kasakitis>i'm gonna go ask hte programmers why this and that doesn't work 
      *g*.. i'm bug-hunting today ;)
      <Trimfect>Haha... Well good luck, but do remember, its a feature, not a 
      bug. -- at least from the programmes point of view. :)
      <Kasakitis>well.. i know. *g*
      <Kasakitis>that's the challenge
      <Keeper>Yo
      <Trimfect>Hoo... It's alive!
      <Kasakitis>it speaks!
      * Kasakitis hides 
      <Trimfect>Hmm... 
      <Trimfect>Can you make Keeper say something?
      <Kasakitis>hi keeper
      <Keeper>Greetings
      <Kasakitis>hm
      <Trimfect>Hmm.. Something else than a greting?
      <Trimfect>Not the normal stuff...
      <Kasakitis>heh
      <Kasakitis>phoen
      <Trimfect>Keeper is a rather dumb fella. 
      <Trimfect>But we all love him anyway! :)
      <Kasakitis>*g*
      <Trimfect>Have you seen Ducky in a while?
      <Kasakitis>no, haven't
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      <Trimfect>I'm almost bleeding.
      <Kasakitis>?
      <Trimfect>Well, almost. I would use that knife and cut myself, then I 
      would bleed. Now I'm almost bleeding.
      <Trimfect>Hahah... :)
      <Trimfect>I lack oxygen.
      <Kasakitis>hehhehe..
      <Trimfect>Tell me something funny. Brighten up the boring day. Please. 
      with sugar on the top.
      <Kasakitis>um.. um.. first time i tried using a gasmine i mistakenly shot 
      it and went down wiht hte guards.. ;)
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      <Trimfect>Nice try, nevertheless. (or is it "never the less"). :) I 
      steppen on a couple of mines during my explorations. Mainly in the ... 
      uhh.. mission #6 :)
      <Trimfect>The cathedral 1.
      * Trimfect shames. 
      <Kasakitis>hehhehee..
      <Kasakitis>well.. it easily done htere!
      <Kasakitis>i messed up in Baffords.. *g*
      <Trimfect>Baffords? Mines there? ... ... 
      <Trimfect>You lill' rascal, you...! :)
      <Kasakitis>tis was hte demo *g*
      <Trimfect>Ah. There was mines in demo... Possible. Can't remember. Its 
      been a while. 
      <Kasakitis>yeah, sure was... u could do a lot of fun wiht ropearrows in it 
      'g*
      <Trimfect>That I do remember. :) ... Maybe someone should make a "hacked" 
      Baffords, where there are more guards and more equipment. :)
      <Kasakitis>hmm... good idea... and a hoard of zombies in the spider cave 
;)
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      <Trimfect>*sob* *sob* I'm all alone here in the cold and dark and the 
      damp..... ... Almost alone :) Heheh...
      <Trimfect>Were you thrown away also, or...?
      <Kasakitis>*rotfl*!
      <Kasakitis>nope.. wasn't
      <Trimfect>I need food.
      <Kasakitis>no lunch yet?
      * Trimfect chews on a dry, tasteless piece of cookie... 
      <Trimfect>No food, no lunch, no nothing.
      <Trimfect>All I have is these crackers.
      <Trimfect>Not that I'm complaining, since its me who is the stupid and go 
      and get some food.
      * Trimfect wonders when are they going to bring me my dinner... 
      <Kasakitis>:-/
      <Kasakitis>hehehehhehhehehhe
      <Kasakitis>'when they're gonna' u mean ;)
      <Kasakitis>hmmm.. brb
      <Trimfect>That too. :
      <Trimfect>: is same as :)
      <Trimfect>:)
      <Kasakitis>:))
      <Trimfect>It's fun to make fool out of yourself. I love it. and I'm pretty 
      good at it, even if I say it myself...
      <Kasakitis>hehehe.. well.. if u do it on purpose it's ok.. otherwise it 
      might not me *g*
      <Trimfect>Hahah... You'll never know. :)
      <Trimfect>Any idea what time the people from US start getting here?
      <Kasakitis>well.. aroudn now?
      <Kasakitis>more usually lkater on tho.. hmm.. about 2 hours from now or so
      <Trimfect>Ahh.. Then I won't be at work when they arrive. Oh well...
      <Kasakitis>:-/
      <Kasakitis>anything u want relayed?
      <Trimfect>Nope. 
      <Kasakitis>ok :)
      <Trimfect>I'll be back here later, calling from home...
      <Trimfect>Thanks anyway. :)
      <Kasakitis>np :)
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      <Trimfect>Cyne is having fun. :)
      <Kasakitis>hehe.. obviously
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      <Lytha>Hi
      <Lytha> <falls dead to the ground>:)
      <Trimfect>Hi! .. but.. Aren't you dead already?
      <Lytha><tries to put two new pages to www.lytha.com... oooh>
      <Lytha>I am dead, you are right. :)
      <Trimfect>Hehe... I'm glad to be right. :)
      <Trimfect>can't find "www.lytha.com"...? 
      <Lytha>yes.
      <Lytha>they move the server, it seems.
      <Lytha>hm
      <Trimfect>Hmm...
      <Trimfect>Lost it... no good.
      <Trimfect>You could actually talk quite well with the phrases from Thief 
:)
      <Lytha>no good, indeed. <shrugs>
      <Lytha>:)
      <Kasakitis>lytha :)
      <Lytha>then no two new pages today... who cares. :)
      <Lytha>Kasa :)
      <Trimfect>We all care! ... actually I have no idea what lytha.com has... 
      But still. :)
      <Lytha>you don't? It has this odd survey, and nothing more, yet. :)
      <Kasakitis>well, i check it out at least :)
      <Trimfect>Ahh.. I checked to survey, but didn't pay attention to the 
      domain name.
      <Trimfect>to=the
      <Lytha><is still dead on the floor. The auto-corrections of this program 
      had drove her crazy, and finally killed her.>
      <Lytha>:)
      <Trimfect>"Never let the computer do anything you can do yourself." Old 
      saying of the jungle.
      <Lytha> <goes to the gameforum to scare some of the madmen in there... 
      'groaaaan' >:)
      <Lytha>yes, because the computer does the wrong things automatically.
      <Trimfect>I saw the "Ode to Lytha" -thread. Oh man, oh man, you got some 
      serious fans! :)
      <Lytha>Yes... I think I should tell them that I am not the messiah... and 
      leave them my bottle and my shoe. Or didn't I do that already yesterday? 
:)
      <Kasakitis>*LOL*!
      <Kasakitis>tiem to go hide in a hole soon then *g*
      <Trimfect>What, you are not?! Oh no! ... Well you are close to messiah, 
      right? Right? Oh please, please, please... 
      <Lytha>Well... oh dear. They continued the thread... uh oh
      <Trimfect>Haha...
      * Trimfect is about to sing a song to Lytha... 
      * Trimfect but decides not to. 
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      <Trimfect>Cyne, here to stay this time? :)
      <Lytha>haha... if you could see my face now... both pale and blushed... uh 
      oh. :)
      <Lytha>hi Cyne
      <Cyne>Sure
      * Kasakitis 's just gotta go read taht thread.. 
      <Cyne>why not
      <Trimfect>HAhah... Have no fear, I have no intentions of making a poem for 
      you.... How rude of me. :)
      <Trimfect>But a song? Yes! *grin*
      <Trimfect>http://www.LythaFanClub.com :)
      <Trimfect>I'm not making you uncomfortable, eh...
      <Trimfect>Sorry. I'm really in need of some fresh air!
      <Lytha>uh oh.. :)
      * Cyne looks around at the devastation he caused yesterday 
      <Cyne>I'll have to try harder today
      <Trimfect>Do I wan't to know? 
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      <Lytha>Digi :)
      <Cyne>Uhhhh..........
      <Digi>Lyth : )
      <Cyne>Yado Digi
      <Digi>Ahhh-yo-yo Cyne
      <Cyne>bbl
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      <Trimfect>Huom... uh.. morning, Digi.
      <Digi>g'mornin
      <Kasakitis>hey digi :)
      <Digi>hiya kasa
      <Digi>trimfect, you are free to update that topic as to the true status of 
      GatB, you know.... : )
      <Trimfect>Well, I've been going to update the topic, but every time I 
      think of something else, it always comes down to the current topic. It 
      100% true so I won't change it... :)
      <Trimfect>Meaning the current topic is true, so no updates are necessary.
      <Lytha>do they still behave strange?
      <Trimfect>Indeed they do. Actually they stop behaving.
      <Lytha>maybe because they have to many things to think about? (too many 
      dislikes, preferences, patrol points) so that they can't fell a decision?
      <Trimfect>Well if they were humans, I'd agree, but since they are bits of 
      zeros and ones, I can't settle for that. 
      <Lytha>and if two 1s seem to have a identically priority?
      <Lytha>but I don't know enough about that camel that I could understand 
      the psychology of the AIs. :)
      <Lytha>I should be off now. Cu later. :)
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      <Trimfect>Then Thief crashes. Ehgh..gh.. Or the guards locks up. :) So 
      that's why I have to know what the two equally important things are so 
      that I can eliminate another of them...
      <Trimfect>Anything new and interesting happening?
      Trimfect has changed the topic on channel #thief to "Gathering at the Bar" 
      - Currently debugging the AI... Released before weekend.
      <Trimfect>The weekend, but who cares...
      <Trimfect>I'm out. Cya...
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      <Kasakitis>ugh..
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      <Khalid>woohoo
      <Kasakitis>hey khalid :)
      <Khalid>hi
      <Kasakitis>u seem in a good mood?
      <Khalid>I just read the topic :)
      <Kasakitis>ah.. hehe..
      <Khalid>is there a stair_serf for spiral staircases too?
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      * Cyne drops by sets loose a few exploding frogs and heads off to lunch 
      <Cyne>My job here is done
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      <Kasakitis>oops.. tiem to go. bye
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      Trimfect has changed the topic on channel #thief to "Gathering at the Bar" 
      - ToDo: Fix one bug and add secrets.
      <Trimfect>Got the AI working... :)
      <Khalid>good
      <Khalid>ooh, secrets
      <Trimfect>:)
      <Khalid>and there's even a briefing...professional :)
      <Trimfect>Just added one more image to briefing and fixed some scenes. 
      Whee! :)
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      <Khalid>what's it like?
      <Chibboleth>allo, everyone
      <Khalid>hi
      <Trimfect>Hi!
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      <Lytha>Hello :)
      <Trimfect>Well, you've seen the briefings in Thief? Its like them :)
      <Khalid>ah, we're being invaded
      <Khalid>:)
      <Trimfect>'ello!
      <Lytha>*g
      <Chibboleth>I've got version 1.0 of the Mucho Macho DromEd Reference 
      ready... and where is DN when you need him :)
      <Khalid>he just left I think
      <Lytha>I don't know where he is. He must have been fled because he felt 
      that I was entering the room.. *g
      <Chibboleth>anyone want an advance copy?
      <Khalid>sure
      <Khalid>man
      <Khalid>I don't know what's up with my DCC
      <Chibboleth>I dunno either... I can never get it to work on starchat
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      <Chibboleth>I hate this network
      <Khalid>me niether
      <Chibboleth>Digi, just looking for you
      <Trimfect>He knows ;)
      <Digi>yep
      <Trimfect>He knows everything, he is Master Nightfall! :)
      <Chibboleth>been reading the log like a naughty op?
      <Digi>this pisses me off: 
http://www.gameforum.com/Forum29/HTML/000383.html
      <Digi>no, trim tattled on you
      <Khalid>hmm
      <Chibboleth>who the hell is owen hart?
      <Khalid>that wrestler
      <Khalid>who died
      <Chibboleth>a wrestler... so who cares, then
      <Khalid>just a tad off topic
      <Chibboleth>Digi, how do you want me to send you this - my DCC doesn't 
      seem to work on starchat
      <Digi>how big is it?
      <Digi>CHILLman seems to hold a grudge against me for some odd reason
      <Khalid>small
      <Chibboleth>21k
      <Chibboleth>that's probably because CHILLman seems to hate everyone
      <Trimfect>Chibboleth, I checed your page, the Hand-thing.. Umm.. Is it 
      legal?
      <Chibboleth>I dunno. It's fun though, isn't it?
      <Khalid>hand-thing?
      <Trimfect>Hehe... Yes. :)
      <Chibboleth>it's not, actually... copyrights last a long damn time
      <Chibboleth>but software developers don't even bother those bastards over 
      at T50, so I feel pretty safe
      <Trimfect>Yeah... but well, I'm not sure if it a good idea to spread the 
      URL in Shock-forum... 
      <Chibboleth>I didn't
      <Trimfect>Umm... Yes you did.
      <Khalid>T50, eww
      <Chibboleth>when?
      <Trimfect>Umm... Yesterday or so...
      <Digi>email!
      <Chibboleth>I don't think I've ever looked at the shock forum
      <Trimfect>Hmm...
      <Digi>huh? eh? wha?
      <Chibboleth>k Digi, it's on it's way
      <Lytha>hm....
      <Chibboleth>eh?
      <Chibboleth>I was going for a record uptime before alleycat.exe exceeded 
      my windows resources 42m 57s ago
      <Khalid>huh?
      <Khalid>everyone seems confused
      <Chibboleth>what?
      <Chibboleth>who's on first?
      <Lytha>shall I now email this stuff to the certain someone or shall I wait 
      some more days and write more before I email him?
      <Khalid>where?
      <Khalid>I don't know
      <Chibboleth>no, where's in the outfield, you wacky bastard
      <Lytha>on my computer. emailing.
      <Lytha>hm
      <Trimfect>Briefing size 5.6MB. Too big?
      <Trimfect>Zipped.
      <Chibboleth>I turned my porno machine on 44m 42s ago
      <Digi>awesome chibbo
      <Chibboleth>god I love /uptime
      <Lytha>it is big, but not too big, Trimfect
      <Chibboleth>It has been 45m since Windows went bowling with Satan
      <Digi>any chance of you sending me additions to this every now and then?
      <Chibboleth>yeah, every week or so
      <Chibboleth>I'll just call it ver. 1.5 pre-alpha beta kappa zeta and send 
      it along
      <Khalid>heh
      <Digi>wonderful
      <Digi>thank you, you are a huge help
      <Digi>: )
      <Chibboleth>np
      <Lytha>hm...
      <Lytha>I guess I wait some more days.
      <Chibboleth>hey, I just had a thought... what's a song that goes well with 
      Thief?
      Digi has changed the topic on channel #thief to "Gathering at the Bar" - 
      ToDo: Fix one bug and add secrets & fix Digi's voice in the briefing.
      <Trimfect>Heheh..
      <Digi>I already asked if you can make mp3s play in-game
      <Digi>he said no
      <Digi>he = Tim
      <Khalid>what's wrong with the voice?
      <Digi>but, Aftermath by Delerium is my most Thievish 'song'
      <Chibboleth>no, I was thinking of taking a song and doing a Thief mix of 
it
      <Chibboleth>I was thinking of maybe "Been Caught Stealing" by Jane's 
      Addiction
      <Digi>I did it a piece at a time, so there are some inconsistances with 
      the volume
      <Lytha>You will fix your own voice, Digi? 8] Have you a surgeon at hand?
      <Khalid>does it sound like Garrett?
      * Digi is talking about the volume 
      <Digi>No, it's not supposed to be Garrett
      <Lytha>Ah.
      <Digi>it's supposed to be Master`Nightfall giving you the mission
      <Digi>_you_, not Garrett
      <Khalid>oh, then I guess you would sound like Master`Nightfall :)
      <Digi>you don't play Garrett... though you use his voice.. hehe
      <Digi>yes, and Master Nightfall sounds like a kid.... : )
      <Chibboleth>just as long as we get to blackjack, kill, drown, or otherwise 
      embarrass Digi at some point
      <Digi>cuz he iz
      <Trimfect>Hey, don't tell them everything, Digi! :)
      <Digi>of you've already done that
      <Digi>sorry!
      <Khalid>I just found a thief channel on EfNet
      * Chibboleth has a close look at Digi's clothing 
      <Lytha>Trimfect told us nuffin. 
      <Chibboleth>just what I thougt! Ladie's knickers!
      <Khalid>but no one's in it
      <Chibboleth>really?
      <Chibboleth>what is it?
      <Trimfect>Well if I told you everything, then there wouldn't be any fun 
      left! And that's no fun at all!
      <Trimfect>:)
      <Chibboleth>maybe we should go take it over, is what I was thinking
      <Digi>I am waiting for someone to make a Gordon Freeman skin... for the 
      simple purpose of letting Garrett blackjack him and dump him in a pit full 
      of zombies
      <Khalid>some of the channels on DALNet are SCARY
      <Digi>Take that, basterd
      Digi has changed the topic on channel #thief to "Gathering at the Bar" - 
      ToDo: Fix one bug and add secrets.
      <Trimfect>Hahah...
      <Khalid>zombies in Thief do look quite a bit like the zombies in HL
      <Digi>yeah... but those are fodder
      <Khalid>you can get those with a crowbar, non-holy mind you
      <Digi>1 Thief zombie could kill a pack of HL zombs like nothin
      <Lytha>HL? Why do you know how Zombies look in HL?! HL? The wrong word... 
      *eg
      <Digi>marines causin trouble?... send a burrick!... *blech*... *cough 
      cough* *die*
      <Chibboleth>or, hey, just one Haunt is all you need
      <Khalid>and burricks look kind of like...what were they called?
      <Khalid>those things that sent out energy pulses
      <Digi>I played HL... can't say i was impressed
      <Digi>it was just another wolfenstine clone, with gimmiks
      <Chibboleth>houndeyes
      <Khalid>yeah
      <Chibboleth>there are a couple of things to be said for HL
      <Digi>i wonder if the UW3 petition will have an efffect
      <Chibboleth>it looks nicer than Thief, and runs faster too
      <Khalid>like actual story in a FPS
      <Trimfect>Gotta go, cya...
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      <Digi>Jedi Knight had a story
      <Digi>so ; p
      <Digi>hehe
      <Digi>I didn't like the HL graphics
      <Digi>seemed too cartoonish to me....
      <Chibboleth>well... I don't like Thief's graphics :)
      <Khalid>they were good graphics, but Unreal's were better
      <Lytha>well... I do like Thief's graphics. :)
      <Digi>'Like' isn't the word... I accept them and appreciate them... : )
      <Lytha>hm...
      <Lytha>I delayed the email to the certain person.
      <Lytha>So... what now?
      <Khalid>why isn't keeper an op?
      <Lytha>Hi Keeper
      <Keeper>What up, G?
      <Chibboleth>oh, and here I always thought that graphically speaking Thief 
      was ugly as hell... which goes to show how good the rest of it is
      <Chibboleth>Keeper can't do anything with it
      <Digi>because it's possible to puppet him
      <Lytha>Because he is to babbling to much for a serious op.
      <Digi>and then you could use him to op yourself
      <Chibboleth>if DN had the sense to run an eggdrop in here... but I digress
      <Digi>well Chibbo, what is an eggdrop?
      * Chibboleth doesn't think DN knows how to run his channel properly :) 
      <Digi>lol
      <Chibboleth>eggdrop is a channel bot that runs on UNIX
      <Chibboleth>pretty standard, really
      <Digi>keeper is one then, i suppose
      <Chibboleth>but ChanServ makes it kind of unnecessary for security 
purposes
      <Chibboleth>no, Keeper isn't an eggdrop... I dunno what he is, exactly
      <Khalid>a mutant bot
      <Digi>he's a bot that runs on a Unix machine
      <Chibboleth>yeah, but that doesn't make him an eggdrop
      <Keeper>me? I just take the log. no more. no less... oh yeah, and I say 
      hello.
      <Chibboleth>I think I've seen him referred to as a DuckBot or something
      <Khalid>and you should say goodbye
      <Khalid>by Ducky
      <Keeper>i dono why you say goodbye, I say hello.
      <Keeper>you say yes, i say no, you say why, and I say I don't know!
      <Khalid>hmm...in my mIRC connect list there is a server called 
      duh-net...what do they talk about on there?
      <Digi>duh is french for "I am french"
      <Lytha><bites Keeper>
      <Lytha>oh no
      <Lytha>that was Jyre's part
      <Keeper>oh baby
      <Lytha><refuses that she has bitten Keeper>
      <Lytha>*g
      <Keeper>you really know how to light mah fire!
      <Lytha>lol
      <Keeper>was it my singing?
      <Khalid>speaking of puppeting
      <Keeper>I can do paul simon too!
      <Digi>: )
      <Lytha>hm...
      <Lytha>I should really get me some dinner. Dinner. All that I want to know 
      is when do they bring me my dinner...
      <Keeper>If you be my bodyguard, I will be your long lost pal!
      <Khalid>why do I have to be down here in the cold and the dark and the 
damp
      <Keeper>if i can call you betty, and betty when you call me, you can call 
      me Al!
      <Lytha>Betty?
      <Lytha>nah
      <Chibboleth>that's it... I'm getting a copy of "Been Caught Stealing", and 
      doing some sampling
      <Digi>: )
      <Digi>oh, wait.. I know of one...
      <Digi>a song called "Intruder"
      * Digi tries to remember the artist 
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      <Claw>hello all. what does the topic mean?
      <Khalid>Dr. Claw!
      <Claw>hi Khalid
      <Digi>tis talking about the new mission to be released soon
      <Claw>oh
      * Khalid growls, "I'll get you Gadget, next time..." 
      <Digi>ok krap.. new ss2 shots... *sighs*... 
      <Digi>I made the screenshot archive too fancy, and now it's a pain to 
      update
      <Lytha>no, Digi. ss2 is no crap. :)
      <Lytha>ah, I see
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      <Digi>and they are good ones too!
      <Digi>everyone go look now
      <Digi>http://www.pczone.co.uk/guest/front_frame.cgi?page=previews/sshock/ock_ii1.html
      <Digi>NOW!!
      <Digi>: )
      * Khalid obeys 
      <Lytha> <hops away and fumbles her Thief-CD in her CD-Rom...>Now this is 
      gonna be fun, hehe... I will pretend on a certain map that I was a 
      newbie.. hehe
      <Lytha>later, guys :)
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      <Digi>these links seem broken
      <Claw>the site looks good to me
      <Claw>I did not check links
      <Khalid>I can't look at any of the pics
      <Claw>me neither
      <Khalid>and I wanted to look at sock_ii71 :(
      <Digi>lets all write hate mail to PCZone and tell them to fix their bloody 
      links
      <Khalid>dear PCZone: your links are not bloody enough...FIX THEM!
      <Digi>brits
      <Claw>what is ss2 all about? is their stealth involved, like in theif?
      <Khalid>I found an option in DromEd to change the color of lights by 
      entering values for Hue and Intensity but no matter what I entered, 
      nothing worked...is it possible in Thief or is that a feature of SS2 that 
      is in DromEd anyway?
      <Digi>yes
      <Claw>to what question?
      <Digi>justa sec, Claw, I'll get you a link where you can read about the 
      game in nutshell
      <Digi>It's a RPG
      <Digi>http://www.irrational-games.com/products.htm
      <Digi>stealth will work the same way as it did in Thief
      <Digi>minus the little gem
      <Claw>cool, thanks for the link...
      <Digi>I wrote it.... : )
      <Khalid>know about the light?
      <Digi>?
      <Khalid>I wish it was possible
      <Claw>how is your mission coming along khalid?
      <Khalid>so-so
      <Claw>it's not that easy is it? (I never found the time to start on one 
      yet)
      <Khalid>well since I've never done any kind of level building before it is 
      a challenge
      <Claw>it is hard to visualize as you are building...
      <Digi>sketch it out first
      <Claw>talk to you guys later........
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      <BigFellA>hi
      <Digi>greetings
      <Keef>hi :)
      <Khalid>I'm off, bbl
      <Keef>bye 
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      * Keef is browsing the editor forum 
      <BigFellA>i am at the lost city now, i got the water talisman, but now 
      there are crawmen (?) all over the place
      <BigFellA>should i kill 'm or run past them
      <Keef>Depends on your style :) I offed em, because I hate bugs :)
      <Keef>But if you are patient, you can get past them...
      <BigFellA>how many are there? I killed two, and there were another three 
      at the crypt exit
      <Digi>Crays are slow, circle-strafe them and hack away... : )
      <BigFellA>k
      <BigFellA>cool
      <BigFellA>gotta go
      <BigFellA>cya later :)
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      <Tommyboy>Hi keeper
      <Keeper>Yo
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      <Cobak>hey
      <Khalid>hi
      <Cobak>hi keeper
      <Keeper>Greetings
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      * Cyne stops by lets loose some more exploding frogs and heads out to get 
      a pizza 
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      <Chibboleth>argh!
      <Chibboleth>has anyone managed to successfully modify skins yet?
      <Cobak>haventt tried...
      <Khalid`Working>you might try using a program specifically made for making 
      skins
      <Chibboleth>I'm trying to modify the hammer guard skin, and it has no 
      effect on the way the guys look in-game
      <Khalid`Working>you probably have to make the changes in the gamesys file
      <Chibboleth>come again?
      <Khalid`Working>I saw a post about something like that on the forum
      <Chibboleth>yeah, just nothing helpful... I think I'm the only one 
      actually trying to do this
      <Khalid`Working>what if, after making the changes, you went to save 
      gamesys along with save mission?
      <Chibboleth>I may have missed something... what's gamesys?
      <Khalid`Working>I think it's the file that specifies all of the parameters 
      in the game
      <Khalid`Working>it loads it every time you start DromEd
      * Khalid`Working goes into his level for a couple minutes 
      <Chibboleth>ok, solved it
      <Chibboleth>the directory "mesh" has to have a capital m
      <Khalid`Working>"all is quiet now"
      <Chibboleth>yeah, now if only I could get him to shut up :)
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Whoa!! Where'd all the people come from??!!
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Hi everybody :)
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>come join us at #fang
      <Khalid`Working>they've been here the whole time, just hiding
      <Khalid`Working>what is #fang?
      <Cobak>yes what is it?
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>CF's crazy channel :)
      <Cobak>ahh hehe
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>come on over
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      <Trimfect>Evening...
      <Cobak>hi trimfect
      <Khalid`Working>afternoon... :)
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Hi Trimfect
      <Chibboleth>allo Trimfect
      <Chibboleth>wrestling with skinsies, am I
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Chibbo, have you updated your site yet?
      <Khalid`Working>tricksie skinsies
      <Khalid`Working>where's your site?
      <Chibboleth>http://move.to/chibboleth
      <Chibboleth>updated it a few days ago
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Everytime I try and create a hammer-bed, DromEd 
      shuts down :( Anyone else has this problem?
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>ok
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      <Lytha>Hi :)
      <Cobak>hello lytha
      <Trimfect>Oh my god, she's back! :)
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Hi again :P
      * Trimfect hides in a cobinet. 
      <Khalid`Working>Mr. Hand is cool
      <Lytha><sits giggling on the floor>
      <Chibboleth>well that's odd... I managed to invert the hammers on their 
      chests but now the stripes on their faces won't work
      <Lytha><pretending to be a newbie in a well-known map is pure fun>
      <Cobak>how exactly do you do that?
      <Lytha>I bring myself back into the silly state of a newbie.
      <Cobak>ah ok
      <Trimfect>I understand when people play Thief for the 4th time, but when 
      they play it as many times as you (Lytha) have played it, well, I'm not so 
      sure about anything anymore...
      <Lytha>back into the dumbness when walking on the clickety clackety floor 
      tiles, i.e. :)
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      <Trimfect>The Banshee's map was, uh impossible?
      <Trimfect>I tried it but the fron floor was way too noisy.
      <Cobak>yeah that and no sword
      <Chibboleth>ok... you have to restart dromed every time you modify a skin
      <Cobak>if a guard sees you or hears you fight with blackjack
      <Lytha>I... err... are you speaking of the map with the golden skull, the 
      C'thulhus and the 3 books?
      <Cobak>yeah
      <Lytha>I... err... I made it...
      <Lytha>And found it funny. :)
      <Lytha>or thought it was funny. 
      <Lytha>not create it.
      <Lytha>err 
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>I didn't quite get what the objectives were...
      <Lytha><slaps herself with a large wet eel because of her current 
      inability to use the English language>
      <Trimfect>Hehe... They were in the .txt...
      <Lytha>Nor did I... :)
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>oh <blushes>
      <Trimfect>I know the feeling, Lytha... (The eel, that is)
      <Lytha>But I got the two boxes checked, I think
      <Lytha>yes, it is horrible, ain't it?
      <Trimfect>I typed ai_aware_of_player and run through the map ;)
      <Lytha>hm
      <Trimfect>Actually kinda like the feeling of a wet eel on my cheak...
      <Chibboleth>is there a way of reloading gamesys without restarting dromed?
      <Lytha>I sent them to sleep, because I wanted to give them a rest. :)
      <Trimfect>Hey, don't blame me, I didn't have time and I wanted to see the 
      map!
      <Cobak>heh
      <Lytha>:)
      <Trimfect>Shall we all start to rhyme like nice little dime? :)
      <Chibboleth>oh god... I swear a bird outside just imitated the hammer 
      whistle tune
      <Lytha>lol
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      <Trimfect>Oh just FYI, Tarquis's snoring can still be heard all over the 
      streets. I don't get it. In dromed it works just fine, but when I start it 
      in Thief, the snoring is there again! Aaaaarrahgagrhrghar...
      <Khalid`Mad>damn
      <Khalid`Mad>my whole system crashed
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Chibbo, this goes without saying(of course), but 
      YOU'RE A LUNY :)
      <Cobak>snoring is good...
      <Khalid`Mad>My ISP crashed, Windows crashed, Netscape crashed, GetRight 
      crashed, mIRC crashed, DromEd crashed, ALL AT ONCE!
      <Trimfect>Snoring is NOT good when you hear it miles away.
      <Trimfect>Khalid, that must be a record :)
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>awww, Chibbo! You didn't put any of the games I 
      suggested on yer site...
      <Cobak>hehe...could be like the giggling in the sword
      <Khalid`Mad>all I did was click on something at Chibbo's site and BOOM, 
      big bad blue screen attacks me
      <Chibboleth>I thought I did Tommy... what were they?
      <Trimfect>That was intentional. :) Mine isn't... Or... I could change the 
      name of the inn to "The Snoring Tarquis"...
      <Lytha>Let him snore, Trimfect. It is a feature.
      * Chibboleth OWNS the blue screen of death 
      <Khalid`Mad>I'm surprised Bill Gates' face doesn't pop up instead
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Quest for Glory 1-3 and Day of the Tentacle
      <Lytha>haha
      <Khalid`Mad>I have DotT
      <Khalid`Mad>it's cool
      <Trimfect>No, no, no, no! I will not let him snore the way he snores now. 
      Its just plain evil.
      <Khalid`Mad>it came with Grim Fandango
      <Chibboleth>oh
      <Chibboleth>I have those, just haven't upped them yet
      <Lytha>Yes, that is because Tarquis is one of Baffords men. And Bafford 
      is, of course, just plain evil. :)
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>er...Chibb, what did you put up this time...I 
      can't seem to find anything different.
      <Trimfect>You didn't see the name of the man who has the Bafford's stick? 
      :) It is also connected to the world of Thief. :)
      <Khalid`Mad>I wanted Alone in the Dark, but nooooo
      <Khalid`Mad>Winblows obviously didn't
      <Cobak>evil snoring could add to the atmosphere, or maybe the whole town 
      is asleep or somthing
      <Trimfect>Bubble Bobble is The Game. End of discussion. :)
      <Chibboleth>I fixed lemmings 2, and system shock
      <Lytha>The name of the man who has the Bafford's stick? No. Where?
      <Chibboleth>I last dropkicked my computer in frustration 3h 43m 1s ago
      <Trimfect>It reads in the book in the bar-area.
      <Lytha>oh
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Maniac Mansion is great IMHO 
      <Khalid`Mad>wow...Norton Anti-Virus now protects against 21829 viruses
      Khalid`Mad is now known as Khalid
      <Khalid>Maniac Mansion is fun
      <Khalid>except for the fact that I can't stand the internal PC speaker
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>hehe...yeah, that is a pain in the arse
      <Khalid>I used to have all the King's Quests through 5
      <Khalid>I mean through 7
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>I still have Leisure Suit Larry 1 through 7 + 
      Larry's Casino
      <Khalid>anyone know what GDI.exe is for?
      <Khalid>that's where the crash occured which then shut down 
      kernel32.dll...from there it went all downhill
      <Chibboleth>I think it was what they called the executable for C&C
      <Khalid>oh...wait, it's in windows/system
      <Khalid>yuck, not good to have a crash there
      <Chibboleth>The MP3 stoped and I got off your mom and looked at the screen 
      3h 55m 1s ago
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      <Khalid>it's good you keep track of these sorts of things
      <A_Little_Mouse>Hi gang.
      <Chibboleth>my script has all kinds of clever phrases for uptime
      <Chibboleth>It has been 3h 56m 18s since the shit hit the fan in Windows
      <Khalid>what does the script calculate?
      <Khalid>hi
      <TommyboyWorkingOnLevel>Heya Mouse
      <Chibboleth>the oWiRC script is the superior mIRC modification. Among 
      other things it keeps track of how long it's been since I rebooted
      <Chibboleth>It has been 3h 57m 30s since Red Bawm Impact!
      <Khalid>so your IRC opens on startup?
      <Chibboleth>no
      <Chibboleth>no idea how it works

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