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  1. #451
    Fair enough

  2. #452
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    I do think of the new movies as kind of Star Wars Lite. They are a mixed bag, usually with a minus for every plus, but overall I do like them. They can't begin to touch the originals though.

    That said, they're still way better than the prequels.

  3. #453
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    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    I failed to mention that Rey out-mind reads him on her first try
    The first try is in TFA, and soundly defeats her and extracts the information he wants.
    The force doesn't make your body any less vulnerable, or at least it didn't before TFA. It just didn't make any sense to me, and making him get injured also seemed superfluous to the plot
    Word.
    The prequels were better.
    I think TFM may be better than TLJ.

  4. #454
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubJeff View Post

    I think TFM may be better than TLJ.
    Transaction Flow Manager?
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    Total Fatty Matter?

  5. #455
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    The Fandom Menace.

  6. #456
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    Our very own Daniel Thron has a take on where the series went wrong and how he would have liked to see it end:




    Whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvoE...Jbk_JD&index=1

  7. #457
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    I saw The Last Jedi last weekend and actually thought that it was pretty good! OK, the scene where half-dead Leia was floating through space like Mary Poppins was pretty damn cringeworthy, and the casino city sub-plot with the master codebreaker and the silly horse chase scene felt a bit unnecessary, but apart from those I thought that "The Last Jedi" was quite an enjoyable film. While "The Force Awakens" borrowed a bit too much from the old trilogy and relied way too much on nostalgia, I thought that TLJ found a good balance with the old and the new. I left the movie theater positively surprised.

  8. #458
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrian View Post
    EDIT: Why are Star Wars movies and ONLY Star Wars movies allowed to begin with several paragraphs of exposition?
    Because it's a specific reference to something that inspired it:



    Last edited by Jason Moyer; 20th Dec 2017 at 23:29.

  9. #459
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    Location: The Land of Make Believe
    Finally saw this the other day. Minor quibbles aside, I thought it was excellent. I've read all of the criticisms, and 90% of them are baseless.

  10. #460
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    I'm beginning to think that by the time this new trilogy is done, I'll only like the original trilogy and:

    * Revenge of the Sith (besides the noooooooooo)
    * Rogue One
    * The Force Awakens

    And maybe the Han Solo one depending on how that turns out.

    I just don't think that the last jedi did justice to the old cast, created new jedi powers that were just CRAZY and far beyond even the most powerful stuff in the earlier films (not to say that new powers are out of the question) and was just a mixed kinda movie. And it's not just nostalgia at work here (I'll admit there has to be some), as I loved Rogue One. I'd rank it as one of the best Star Wars films after the original trilogy. Bad CGI aside.

    Luke deserved a better sendoff than what he got after the prior films + it's giving good fan service to those who have stuck with the show since they were kids. Where as what he got just wasn't. I'm surprised that they didn't re-use any of the extended universe stuff. Grand Admiral Thrawn? COME ON.

    The prequels gave us midichlorians (sp?) and this one gave us a new rule about the universe somehow always ensuring that there is balance in the force. So if there is too much of one, then a new jedi/sith shall arise/come about with equal power to that of the other. That's just stupid. That cannot be cannon surely.
    Last edited by icemann; 5th Jan 2018 at 10:49.

  11. #461
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    Surprised this hasn't been posted here yet.


  12. #462
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    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Agree with most of the video. After the last jedi, there isn't really anywhere from them to go after it besides:

    * Big super weapon that needs destroying
    * Another light sabre battle between Rey and Kylo

    And that's about it, which is basically Return of the Jedi. So what's the point then? As the Force Awakens was a rehash of sorts of A New Hope. The sad part about getting older, is watching all the things you loved as a kid get slowly ruined in sequels, remakes and reboots.

    I will say though that on the video game end, the Star Wars games have mostly been fantastic. Except for Battlefront.

  13. #463
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    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    ...created new jedi powers that were just CRAZY and far beyond even the most powerful stuff in the earlier films...
    The last movie was called "The Force Awakens", which part of that didn't you get?

  14. #464
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    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    I'd not equate new god like powers with "force awakening".

  15. #465
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    Location: Location, Location
    The midichlorians are awake. And they're PISSED.

  16. #466
    I don't think anything force-related could get more ridiculous than lightning. How does a spiritual energy that binds and connects all living things allow someone to fling balls of electricity at someone.

  17. #467
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    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Compare that to floating superman style whilst encasing yourself in a force shield, and astral projection to a planet half the galaxy away.

    Hmm which ones more crazy.

  18. #468
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    Force jumping's been around since Empire, astral projection since A New Hope.

    People bitch about tiny changes in force powers while ignoring that the very first movie had gems like "Hold your fire! There's no life forms aboard."

  19. #469
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    R U F N KIDDIN' ME?

    Force done got woke!

  20. #470
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    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrian View Post
    Force jumping's been around since Empire, astral projection since A New Hope.

    People bitch about tiny changes in force powers while ignoring that the very first movie had gems like "Hold your fire! There's no life forms aboard."
    When in both, as I don't recall either. For empire if your talking about the super jumps Luke did, that's not the same as a superman floating in space style move.

  21. #471
    I have the feeling I would not have liked Jedi Poppins anyway, we'll never know. But with the emotional punch of Carrie Fisher's RL death, the bridge explosion seemed like a perfect, albeit unexpected, sendoff for Leia. I for one completely accepted it, didn't even stop to doubt it or consider the fact it was way too early in the movie for something this big to happen... (Did think it was ballsy, for sure...) Then she Force-returns out of freaking nowhere? I'm not saying having her back was bad after but it just cheapened the whole thing and made it look like a joke, and to be honest, a tasteless one.
    I understand that they wanted to keep everything the way it was to respect her last performance, and it probably was not an easy decision, but if there's one bit I would have changed in the movie, it's this one.

  22. #472
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Moyer View Post
    I don't think anything force-related could get more ridiculous than lightning. How does a spiritual energy that binds and connects all living things allow someone to fling balls of electricity at someone.
    Eh, I think that taking energy from an energy field and directing it in the form of an electric field is probably the most plausible of all the force powers. It also made for good theater in RotJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by raph View Post
    I have the feeling I would not have liked Jedi Poppins anyway, we'll never know. But with the emotional punch of Carrie Fisher's RL death, the bridge explosion seemed like a perfect, albeit unexpected, sendoff for Leia. I for one completely accepted it, didn't even stop to doubt it or consider the fact it was way too early in the movie for something this big to happen... (Did think it was ballsy, for sure...) Then she Force-returns out of freaking nowhere? I'm not saying having her back was bad after but it just cheapened the whole thing and made it look like a joke, and to be honest, a tasteless one.
    I understand that they wanted to keep everything the way it was to respect her last performance, and it probably was not an easy decision, but if there's one bit I would have changed in the movie, it's this one.
    Agreed.

  23. #473
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    This is one of those cases, like with Jar Jar Binks scenes, where some liberal cutting & maybe a few re-edits could improve the movie, like Leia Poppins, the Casino world, & disappearing Luke. I agree that frozen Leia would have made for a very touching send-off. I wouldn't try to say such a re-cut should be canon, just that I personally don't have qualms having a new movie cut to do the job, and I haven't since Episode I really.

  24. #474
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    Quote Originally Posted by raph View Post
    I understand that they wanted to keep everything the way it was to respect her last performance, and it probably was not an easy decision, but if there's one bit I would have changed in the movie, it's this one.
    I know they briefly considered it, but she was so integral to the rest of the film that it wasn't a realistic option.

  25. #475
    I appreciate that, it's just pretty sad it went that way.

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