New beta in the post above, because in the last one a late fix for another issue would cause the first numbered quick save to be "Quick Save 2".
The only other change is that the 5 ffmpeg DLLs have finally been replaced with one NewDark-style ffmpeg.dll, with unnecessary functionality stripped out.
New beta yet again, as an unknown build issue caused .518 to not start up at all.
1.1.8 is out, containing several bug fixes. If you've had trouble getting the patched game to run, try this version.
(The following is mostly a rehash of previous beta posts. New, relative to the last beta, is:
- The Windows 10 fix is on by default again - needed for vsync
- The option to have multiple quick saves is off by default
- You can now select NewDarkLoader from the tweaker
- Thief 3 Gold has an option to switch between the new version 1.3 and the previous 1.2 - handy for people currently playing 1.2
Those with betas installed should upgrade - especially from .518 and .519, which had the weird intermittent crash on launch.)
Apart from the bug fixes the changes are:
- Fix to make vsync (and possibly brightness) work on Windows 10
- 'Direct load' mode, which is a bit cleaner and hopefully more reliable
- You can now have multiple quick saves. An additional option to quick load the most recent save, quick or not
- Some troubleshooting options have been added to the tweaker
- The 'mouse improvements' tweak is now 'no rotation blur'
- Select which FM loader to use from the tweaker
- All binaries linked statically, to reduce installation trouble
- Moving texture files around when configuring the Collective Texture Pack is now more robust
- New Thief 3 Gold Inn mission, without tutorial stuff and with the new exit mentioned above
The Windows 10 fix was apparently found by UCyborg on the Vogons forum. The fix overwrites code in d3d8.dll to disable the pseudo-fullscreen mode imposed by Win10. That's somewhat fragile and may break with a Windows update - a couple of checks were added to detect that.
This version was supposed to have an installation option to make the Steam overlay work (copied from the Visible Upgrade for DX2) but Steam explicitly disables the overlay for T3, so it wouldn't work. As a work-around to get the overlay working, add the patched game as a non-Steam game. (Browse to the Steam install and select the Thief3.exe file.)
The direct load mode (enabled by default) launches a second instance of Thief3.exe directly when loading a save or new level, instead of going through an external launcher exe. It looked like this could make loading faster - in practice there's no difference. But since synchronization in this mode is much simpler it may fix the cases that some have reported, of the game hanging on relaunch. (Although virus checkers are also a suspect there.)
In the direct load mode the desktop title bar is hidden for a few seconds around the time of the relaunch, making the transition a bit cleaner too.
The "numbered quick saves" option makes the game cycle through e.g. 5 active quick saves, "Quick Save 1" through "Quick Save 5", the oldest of which will be overwritten next time (and quick load will of course load the newest). There's also a setting for retaining every quick save...
Thief 3 has always had a rep for frequent quick save corruption. Not sure about "frequent", but it does happen. So players relying heavily on quick saves are encouraged to use this feature.
The "quick load most recent save" feature will just cause the quick load function to load the latest hard save if it's newer than the most recent quick save - so you don't have to remember if you did a hard save or not.
Both these settings are on a new Save Game page in the tweaker. A couple of existing save game related options were moved there too, and must be re-enabled.
The tweaker's Advanced page was renamed Troubleshooting, and now exposes some options that may help in certain special situations: Attempted loading of damaged saves, ReShade/dgVoodoo work-around etc. The direct load mode can also be disabled here.
The "mouse improvements" tweak has been reduced to a "no rotation blur" tweak. The other part of the original tweak, zeroing MouseLagThreshold, is now always active (with an option to disable).
The tweaker's fan mission loader page now allows you to select which FM loader DLL to use. The bundled default is FMSel, but a recent alternative is NewDarkLoader, which aims to combine the best from FMSel and the classic DarkLoader for Thief 1-2.
The bundled C++ runtime in previous versions were causing installation troble for some users, so from now on binaries are statically linked. That also makes things easier for Wine (Linux/Mac) users.
Last but not least, Beleg Cúthalion has provided an updated version of the Inn mission for Thief 3 Gold. This is not the final Inn map, but an intermediate version, which has had all tutorial stuff removed except on Easy - and there's a new exit:
Because of this the T3 Gold version has been bumped to 1.3, which means old savegames will not be visible after installation. Use the button on the tweaker's FM page to temporarily revert to version 1.2, e.g. to finish a play-through.
Thanks for your work guys, you rock.
BTW, just a heads up, not suspecting anything, but, Avast Free found a virus signature in the 1.1.8 installer, "Win32:Evo-gen". I can't upload such a big file to them, because i have quite a slow internet connection, just to let you know.
Last edited by chk772; 21st Mar 2017 at 12:26.
Thanks - virus checkers seem to always think they find something in Inno Setup installers. Avast is particularly problematic it seems - there's been a report on Mod DB that it'll keep the patched DX2 from even starting up.
I ran the Update Edition through Virus Total: 3 / 61 positives, which is normal. Avast is one of the three. I've uploaded the Update to them now.
Thanks man. Virus scanner just seem very sensitive these days. Already had the one or the other false positive with Avast.
Hello everyone, just a few questions:
I noticed that the original Thief Deadly Shadows' intro trailer has this quote in the beginning:
"Cry, Brethren, for the Betrayer is Come. Your Hands will be Crippled, and you will Perish as the Wretched Outcast in the Bleak Unwritten. And you will know the face of the Destroyer."
But the SneakyUpgrade cuts it out...Can I ask why ?
Are there any other cut outs ?
Are the new 1.1.8/1.1.7 videos very different from the original Thief Deadly Shadows' videos ?
Well now that I have upgraded to 1.18 nothing works. The game loads to menu and when I try to start a new game it crashes to desktop. Newdarkloader won't even load the game to menu at all if I click play thief 3. I'm afraid to try a fam mission. Tell me where the log is and I can post it for you. Please help!
I have two more questions :
I upgraded to 1.1.8 just now...
for some reason the in-game tips for the starting level are gone..How do i restore them ?
Why can't i kill civilians ? what settings should i change in order to be able to kill/knock out civilians ?
Yes - play the Inn on Easy difficulty if you want the tutorial stuff.
What mensch said, and the SU doesn't modify the original videos in any way.Are there any other cut outs ?
Are the new 1.1.8/1.1.7 videos very different from the original Thief Deadly Shadows' videos ?
This would be nothing to do with the SU I think. If you're still talking about the Inn map, then it's probably an artefact of the tutorial elements. If you find that it's specific to the Inn mission, then you can post a request here - Beleg may agree and change it.Why can't i kill civilians ? what settings should i change in order to be able to kill/knock out civilians ?
"Not quite sure what you mean. The quote is not part of the trailer video, but a screen shown before it starts, when you leave the game idle at the menu. Did you select the trailer to show on start-up in the tweaker? If so, you'll see only the video, not the quote."
true, If I keep it idle at menu, Quote + trailer plays. But that's not how the original game was ... the original game plays Quote + trailer when you start the game...anyway Thanks alot for answering my questions...
Another issue is that there is a black screen that lasts for 10 seconds before the loading screen shows up...is this normal ?
By loading screen I mean the Blue Heron Inn(the very first mission) mission loading screen and possibly other missions' loading screens...
Last edited by Kolonial; 22nd Mar 2017 at 12:28.
Which version of the game do you have? The three versions I have (original retail, GOG and Steam) by default all play some short movies promoting nvidia, EAX etc. when starting from the desktop. The trailer only plays after the time-out.
Last edited by snobel; 22nd Mar 2017 at 12:41.
I have the retail version...if you look at this video, you'll see that the Quote+trailer is played right after you start the game....first thing you see after you click the game's icon....
is there a way to shorten the time the black screen lasts ?
If you don't mind brightness and vsync being broken then you can cut a couple of seconds off by playing in borderless fullscreen mode (and match up your desktop and game resolutions).is there a way to shorten the time the black screen lasts ?
Registered just to say thanks. The game was unplayable before, but with your patch I can finally enjoy it on my UW monitor. Your effort is greatly appreciated!
You're welcome. What's the resolution of your monitor?