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Thread: Crap FM: A long way down Dec. 16/06

  1. #1
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    Registered: Jun 2000
    Location: Land of enchantment

    Crap FM: A long way down Dec. 16/06

    I think there is nothing crappy about this FM. So, does it lose? I may vote for it anyway. That would make my vote crap. Just deserts, I say.

    I got through it once fairly easily on Normal with about half the loot. Then I started trying to find all the loot, and that is where the fun began! There are a lot of terrific route finding puzzles here that you can bypass if you are just going down. I managed to find my way back to the starting point. That was much more challenging than going down. If this is ever converted to a "full sized" FM, then it might be interesting to have an objective in Expert skill to go down and then get back up. Some loot objectives might also add to the game play.

    I am missing 65 loot now. I think I know where some or all of it may be.
    spoiler:
    There is an open window opposite the starting point. The window is in a gray stone building that overhangs a big drop. I can jump on top of the window, but I see no apparent way to get inside the room below. I see a pair of white dice on the table.
    Has anyone made it inside that room? If so, how?
    Last edited by smithpd; 16th Dec 2006 at 16:02.

  2. #2
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    Registered: May 2001
    Location: Italy
    spoiler:
    from the lied window u must run and jump to south/west, after falling u land on a iron passage
    this mission is really cool !
    Last edited by sterlino; 16th Dec 2006 at 16:17.

  3. #3
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    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: 0x0x0
    Try getting down in 34 seconds on normal. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  4. #4
    Member
    Registered: May 2001
    Location: Italy
    hey i'm re-playing this, it's full of hidden passages !! i found a key... what is supposed to be usefull for ?
    Last edited by sterlino; 16th Dec 2006 at 16:31.

  5. #5
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    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Making Larry Miserable
    Opening a door I think.

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: May 2001
    Location: Italy
    ah ah too funny the Alarus extension !!

  7. #7
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    Registered: Jun 2000
    Location: Land of enchantment
    Quote Originally Posted by sterlino View Post
    spoiler:
    from the lied window u must run and jump to south/west, after falling u land on a iron passage
    this mission is really cool !
    I tried that already, but that passage does not work for me. First of all, the
    spoiler:
    metal passage I can find in the area (it has a ramp at the beginning) is southeast from the window, not southwest. Then, the only routes I can successfully take in that metal passage are to go down, which takes me to the brick courtyard with the dead guy.
    I have an alternate route to that passage:
    spoiler:
    I can jump mantle to the ledge, with no damage, starting from the opposite area with the lamp post and the generator.
    With some effort, using that route, I carried three crates over there
    spoiler:
    trying to make a route upward at two of the junctions in the metal passage, but I failed at both. Stacking crates in there is awkward and does not get me high enough to enter an upward branch.
    So, how do you go up, or am I missing something?

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: May 2001
    Location: Italy
    Yeah, sorry for the wrong direction/information. and for the rest
    spoiler:
    i got the top via Dromed
    oops... the crates: in game i tried the same with same results. two last key that i found but dunno where to use them , didn't find locked doors !!!

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2003
    Location: Canada
    remember, the FM doesnt have to make sense

    but anyways, i agree, this mission has pretty well-designed architecture, nice effort for a short LOTP-style mission, doesnt seem to belong in this contest...
    Last edited by thief0; 16th Dec 2006 at 21:29.

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2005
    Location: thief.wikia.com
    A few things. I think the crap part of this is subtle achictectural (sp) flaws. (Giant windows, parially unlocked doors, upside down lantern, the stairs next to the drunk, floating chairs, things underneath the tables etc)
    After I was done, it started to play Kidnap. Weird. Other wise, I completly missed everything hidden in this mission.
    And for the key find the lockbox.
    Last edited by ganac; 17th Dec 2006 at 19:10.

  11. #11
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    Registered: May 2000
    Location: Thunder Bay, On., Canada
    I had a lot of fun playing this one. I went through it 3 times before I left it to go on to other entries. I also came up 65g. short so I'll be looking forward to hearing who made it so I can ask if there's a way into that one window that Peter mentioned. Excellent work!

  12. #12
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    Registered: Aug 2001
    Location: Virginia, USA
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyFoxx View Post
    Try getting down in 34 seconds on normal. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    Actually, I've gotten down in less than 12 seconds. It even said "Objective Complete"... but the game seems to think negative hit points is a bad thing.

    So my best time is 39s. The problem is on the pipes where it goes under the balcony I have to crawl. That and remembering to hit the first pipe after the blue roof so I don't take too much damage too early.

    Now... Try it on expert!

    (if only I had a frog egg... or just some guard on the street below...)

  13. #13
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    Registered: May 2002
    Location: Texas
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyFoxx View Post
    Try getting down in 34 seconds on normal. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    I did it in 13 seconds, completed all objectives, but failed the mission.

  14. #14
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    To get into the window:

    spoiler:
    From the "magic lampost thing" a few feet to the north-east is a ledge, mantle it and continue north, from the end of this ledge you can run and jump (whilst strafing may help) and catch the edge of the window and mantle in.
    The dice give you 50 loot.
    As for the way out, you can walk off the window ledge and land on the rail of the metal walkway far below (not sure why ths works) without any damage.


    It's not easy getting in, made it 2 out of 10 times or so, but do-able.
    Last edited by rew; 23rd Dec 2006 at 22:08.

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Location, Location!

    Can return to same spot from big window

    Yes, there's nothing (gameplay-wise) crap about this mission at all...it's total fun! After getting those dice, one time I was able to simply leap back and mantle up to where I leapt from before, that corner of concrete path below the wood-block-structure-balcony that's overhead. Also found all but 15 of the loot - everyone else in that same boat?

    Now, anyone find the big EASTER EGG? i.e., the
    spoiler:
    999 "hctawlegna" arrows
    ? Except, how do you get out of there? No loot in there, either, I don't think...Ask me about the area if you can't find them...need all 3 boxes (assuming there's only 3)...

  16. #16
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    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Location, Location!
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyFoxx View Post
    Try getting down in 34 seconds on normal. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    Try 32...! ...and 3 shields of health left...

    Edit: Ooh, now 31 seconds, and *lots* of health left, more than a dozen shields! Couldn't count them all quick enough. How does one go about making a recording session of activity in Thief 2?

    Edit: 28 seconds with 2 shields remaining, twice...

    Edit: 27 seconds, 4 shields...
    Last edited by crowemagnon; 14th Jan 2007 at 12:22. Reason: Bettered time

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2003
    Location: Canada
    You could use a program called Fraps.

    http://fraps.com/

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Location, Location!

    Total Frap Mission

    Thanks mucho for the tip on Fraps, O thief0! One of these days when I graduate from my Win 98 SE machine I'll be able to run it and try it... Altho that didn't stop me from installing it, oddly enuf... --Crowemagnon

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