I think it is too bad that Timeslip could not finish the DDFIX project.
and if your missing the crossfire Interconnects - http://www.in-pcs.co.uk/product/ATI-...nnect_348.html
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Crossfire will only work on ATI (and few intel) chipsets. It definitely won't run on nVidia chipset - and vice versa, SLI will not run on any ATI chipsets.
Hoping not to start any flame war here, I personally think that dual gpu solutions (CrossFire, SLI) are not too attractive - they generate much more heat (and often noise), require much more power (hence, need more powerful [and expensive] PSU), for two times the price you usually get no more than 1,5x perfomance gain (at best - in some cases the gain is zero). Last but not least, you are severely limited in choosing a motherboard - if you want crossfire, you cant have ati chipset, if you want sli, you cant have intel (and ati) chipset, etc.
I think that even if I could afford SLI/CF (which I can't ) I would prefer to buy one more powerful graphics cards.
I could see a niche for SLI/CF for people with 30'' lcds and bigger, with resolutions of 1920x1200 and bigger - in such scenario the power of two graphics cards can make a difference - and if someone uses matrox' TripleHead2Go SLI/CF may also come in handy.
Okay, enough of my rant, this is not SLI advocacy topic
You are absolutely correct if all video cards had about the same features and it was mainly a question of speed vs. money, which is the case for most people who do not play Thief. In that case, the economics, heat, etc, favor a single card. In my case, however, if I were to pay for more performance using a single card, I would need to change between a card that renders Thief correctly (X1950 Pro) to one that doesn't (ATI HD series or Nvidia 8000 series). This fact makes SLI / crossfire a possible option for me. Buying another computer and keeping my present one for Thief is another option. DDFIX is possible, but I am rejecting that.
for all Thief games and fan missions at reasonably high resolutions and
You simply don't need Crossfire which not only sucks energy without any use
(desktop), is of debatable use (not all games really profit well from that),
is noisier than a single card (IMHO important with stealth games) and can
introduce new problems (e.g. micro stuttering).
I use an X1950XTX at the moment for my main machine and it's of course
faster than a Pro but when I make my "special machine" I'll install the Pro.
The XTX will then enter my graphics card museum.
I know I can keep a dedicated Thief machine and another faster computer. Obviously, in that case, crossfire is unnecessary. Right now I don't have a faster computer. Crossfire could have filled a small niche with some newer games until I get one. That is all. But, in fact, I'll never do it because crossfire does not work with my motherboard, so it is a moot point.
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Without DDFIX, the HD appearance is obviously worse than earlier ATI cards. I have used DDFIX extensively with Nvidia cards, and I know from forum discussions that the DDFIX results with ATI are essentially the same. I agree that DDFIX improves things greatly, but your phrase "in no way worse" is incorrect. DDFIX has several problems that bug me personally: no fog; older textures on doors and some other items look grainy and pixelated; it has some performance issues; need to hit ESC and Continue to return to graphics after escaping to desktop. I much prefer the older ATI cards, which have none of these problems. Fog is rendered correctly with recent drivers. To me, never having fog is a big deal. That is why I never bought an ATI card until the recent driver fix. I will admit that the grainy textures are largely eliminated if you use the NV's Expansion Pack, but the other issues with DDFIX still bug me.
I am not too bothered by the change of resolution with readables, menus, or maps.
That is my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
I.e. "older textures on doors and some other items look grainy and pixelated" isn't a problem with 38xx
As for performance issues, I didn't notice any, I specifically ctrl+alt+shift+del through all maps briefly to see how it performs.
And fog - yes, it's the only problem with DDFIX as for me.
Well done SmithyOriginally Posted by smithpd,Mar 7 2008, 06:00 AM
keep up the good work
I have updated the begining of this thread to reflect all the new changes and version updates done by young Timeslip.
with the 174.53 drivers and the latest ddfix, i am able to use SHTUP textures, without the fix the game still crshes when loading up custom textures.
EDIT: Sorry about the large images. THanks for editing it David.
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Will DDFfix work with a nvidia 9800 card on Vista64? I've unzipped the latest version into the same file as Thief2exe but when I go to apply the patch it wont do anything.I get a message saying "DDfix has stopped working" I have T2 running ok with this rig except for the crappy colors and textures. I see others using 8000 series cards have resolved this issue but I am still having problems. Also want to say thanks to all who have been working on this.
you will have to run thief and ddfix installer in compatibility mode..