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  1. #2276
    So the lady finally trapped me into watching Frozen, and I was unimpressed.



    It still advocates the sexist idea that a girl should base her self-worth on finding a man, despite it's nods towards the more progressive enlightened era we live it still doesn't mitigate the flaw in the core ideology.


    Would not recommend. You don't want your kids being indoctrinated with those ideas.

  2. #2277
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    What's this? Is Tony being a feminist right now?

  3. #2278
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    Registered: Mar 1999
    Location: I can't find myself
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_Tarantula View Post
    It still advocates the sexist idea that a girl should base her self-worth on finding a man, despite it's nods towards the more progressive enlightened era we live it still doesn't mitigate the flaw in the core ideology.
    I don't know what version of Frozen you watched, but the one I saw absolutely did not do this, and pointed out multiple times that Anna's "true love" obsession (and by extension the traditional Disney Fairy Tale Princess relationship arc) was crazy and more than a little unhealthy.

  4. #2279
    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    I don't know what version of Frozen you watched, but the one I saw absolutely did not do this, and pointed out multiple times that Anna's "true love" obsession (and by extension the traditional Disney Fairy Tale Princess relationship arc) was crazy and more than a little unhealthy.
    The lack of a "ride off into the sunset" doesn't negate that. Anna's personal issues are still resolved through the development a health(ier) relationship with a different man.

  5. #2280
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    Registered: Mar 1999
    Location: I can't find myself
    No, Anna's personal issues are resolved by saving Elsa, and the two of them finally having an honest conversation with each other.

  6. #2281
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2006
    Location: On the tip of your tongue.
    Yeah, the relationship with the guy who wasn't a complete asshole was clearly a secondary sub plot. So... the only acceptable stories for little girls are ones involving no men or relationships at all? Gimme a break.

  7. #2282
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: above the clouds
    nicked - To be fair to Tony, he didn't actually say that. He is only objecting to the "finding a man" plot thread. Whether or not this is the case with Frozen (I've not watched it) I don't know.

    I recall that Tangled was ok despite the cheesiness. At least initially the girl had no idea she was interested in the man...

    Recently I had got a bit fed up with male-focused stories and looked for some strong female leads in film or TV. It isn't that easy. I get fed up with the "man saving woman" routine.

    I've been watching Ghost in the Shell - Stand Alone Complex and it is interesting that the commander of Section 9 is a female. I suppose the element of her being a cyborg raises the question of what gender actually means. I know it's anime but the content puts it in the same category as most serious action TV.

  8. #2283
    Knows his stuff
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Quote Originally Posted by froghawk View Post
    What's this? Is Tony being a feminist right now?
    I think he's trying to take down the system from within, by showing up everywhere spouting the most extreme feminist stuff he can think off. Then in a week he'll be like "Seee? I told you guys feminists were the worst!"

  9. #2284
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    Registered: Apr 2008
    It's the femtrails, man. They get everyone in the end.

  10. #2285
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    Registered: Mar 1999
    Location: I can't find myself
    Quote Originally Posted by scumble View Post
    nicked - To be fair to Tony, he didn't actually say that. He is only objecting to the "finding a man" plot thread. Whether or not this is the case with Frozen (I've not watched it) I don't know.
    The thing is, Frozen doesn't have a "finding a man" plot thread.

  11. #2286
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    Quote Originally Posted by Neb View Post
    It's the femtrails, man. They get everyone in the end.
    BOOM!

  12. #2287
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    The "femtrails" comment is one of the reasons why I keep coming back to some of the conversations here. Some comments make me want to bang my head against the wall repeatedly, but "femtrails" makes it all okay again. (Still need to paint over the bloodstain that wall, mind you.)

  13. #2288
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    I've spent the last couple of months inhaling 30 Rock on Netflix. I think this may be the finest situational comedy I've ever seen. It's near flawless and while broadly formulaic, never loses its stride. Some of the best laugh out loud moments in recent memory.

  14. #2289
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Yeah 30 Rock is pretty great (watched 5 seasons, bought the DVD boxset and watched them again). I wouldn't call it the best every or anything but it's very consistent and there are some fantastic moments here and there, especially when Tracy Jordan is involved. Oh what I wouldn't give to see "Who Dat Ninja".

  15. #2290
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    I'd say I even prefer it to Scrubs, which was also consistently great, so long as you ignore that bolt-on series in the medical school, which was terrible and felt like it was made at gunpoint.

  16. #2291
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    Have you tried Community, faetal? You should try Community, faetal.

  17. #2292
    Knows his stuff
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    As it happens I'm nearing the end of Community's season 3. I think this is my 4th re-watching of the series. Yes really, 4th. There's nothing good on Netflix and I'm too lazy to torrent something and figure out how to connect my PS4 to the computer, so Community boxset it is.

  18. #2293
    Walking Dead is kind of a staple with me, and I'm digging the new season - lots going on so far. Haven't read the comic book at all, so I just take show as it's own thing and at face value. The most recent episode ended with kind of a stunner, with the Terminus crew snacking on Bob. Trying to figure out though, if Bob was infected, wouldn't they become immediately infected too by eating him? Everyone has the virus anyway, so should it matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by nickie View Post
    Now I'm trying to figure out how I missed Season 3 of Homeland and the fact that Season 4 started over a month ago. Edit. That was a bummer. Not sure whether it's quite the same without Brody.
    Actually Season 4 just started, about a week before your post. And it's good, very good actually, even without Brody.

  19. #2294
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    I think next I'll watch Community. Seems like I should watch Community.

  20. #2295
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2001
    Location: Tatry Mountains, Poland
    I don't know if you are familiar with Happy Valley, but it's nearly perfect criminal story.

    Highly recommended!

  21. #2296
    Quote Originally Posted by faetal View Post
    I'd say I even prefer it to Scrubs, which was also consistently great, so long as you ignore that bolt-on series in the medical school, which was terrible and felt like it was made at gunpoint.
    Except that it suffers the same problem HIMYM does, with a last season that was terrible primarily due to the writers not really having any clue about how to wrap up the series.

  22. #2297
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    Didn't I already say that? I've never seen HIMYM, so can't comment on that.

  23. #2298
    Knows his stuff
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Quote Originally Posted by faetal View Post
    I think next I'll watch Community. Seems like I should watch Community.
    Yup! It stumbles a bit at the start before it finds it's voice, but bear with it. I'd say the first Halloween episode (episode 6, iirc) is the one where it all comes together.

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