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Thread: [Developer Commentary Added] T2 FM - Lingering Whispers - (8 Sept 2011)

  1. #1
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2009
    Location: South Dakota, USA

    [Developer Commentary Added] T2 FM - Lingering Whispers - (8 Sept 2011)

    Lingering Whispers
    grapesareyum(at)gmail(dotcom)

    Release Date: 9/8/2011
    Revision Date: 10/1/2012
    Version: 1.0.2

    Mission inspired by DarthsLair.

    Please feel free to contact me with feedback, including constructive criticism.
    Pointing out the flaws is how I improve as a level designer.



    Background
    Some time has passed since Garrett sabotaged Karras's plans to destroy all life. The loss of their leader and the revealed fanaticism of their faith have caused Mechanists to fall out of favor, allowing the Hammerite faith to rise again. As many Mechanists convert or flee, there are less people to maintain the many complicated security devices around the City. The existence of the Mechanists is being slowly wiped away in the ensuing chaos.

    Garrett has been mostly keeping to himself after the incident at Soulforge, resting and so far living on the lucre acquired during his partnership with Viktoria. Now, his funds have once more run dry and he is forced to take to thieving again to support himself. It seems like all of Garrett's efforts to save the City from Constantine and Karras were ultimately pointless when he is again forced to scrounge for coins just to keep his landlord happy and his belly full.

    During this needy time, a nobleman, Lord Rein von Krane, has contacted Garrett wishing to hire his expert services. It may not be a choice job, but it's a job.

    Mission Info
    Game : Thief 2: The Metal Age
    Mission : Lingering Whispers
    File : miss20.mis
    Difficulty Options: Normal, Hard, and Expert
    Equipment Store : Full Store
    Map/Automap : Yes/No
    EAX Support : No
    Briefing : Yes
    New Graphics : Yes
    New Objects : Yes
    New Sounds/Music : Yes
    New Scripts : Yes
    Multilingual : No
    DEDX : Yes

    Build Time : Approx. 500 hours or about 4 months

    Special thanks to ticky, Darthslair, Yandros, prjames, and FenPhoenix.

    Instructions
    Place .zip file in preferred directory for Darkloader to open. Do not unzip unless you wish to install manually. Darkloader 4.3 recommended. NVScript 1.2.2 and tnhScript 2.1 (included) are highly recommended for play.

    DOWNLOAD
    Thiefmissions.com
    4shared.com

    If the intro video does not work for you, it can also be viewed here.

    OTHER

    Let's Play
    YouTube - Blind Let's Play - Lingering Whispers v1.0.1
    Huge thanks to FenPhoenix!

    Developer Commentary (contains spoilers)
    YouTube - Lingering Whispers 1.0.1

    Walkthrough
    ThiefMissions.com
    4shared.com
    Ricebug's Website
    Thanks to Ricebug!

    Loot List
    Thiefmissions.com
    4shared.com
    Thanks to prjames.

    Let me know if you have any questions.
    Last edited by scarykitties; 3rd Oct 2012 at 19:08.

  2. #2
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2009
    Location: Situation's changed, Tom.
    I'm really mad at you, man. I was just planning to go to sleep. But I can't just leave this FM behind without trying it.

    But no, congrats on the release, seriously.

    Edit: And remembering the forest section in your project with ticky, I think I'll surely enjoy this one.

    Edit2: Yeah, I think I'm gonna love this one. Just got killed by Karras' ghost.
    Last edited by PotatoGuy; 8th Sep 2011 at 19:56.

  3. #3
    Summer Vacation Contest Winner 2010
    Registered: Sep 2003
    Location: PacificNorthWest...Near Forks
    Congrats on another great mission Sk ! You are an amazing and creative level designer ! A natural to Dromed by all means !

  4. #4
    Thiefmissions.com
    Moderator

    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Houston, Tx., USA
    Not sure why you couldn't contact me, but I've added your mission: http://thiefmissions.com/info.cgi?m=LingeringWhispers

  5. #5
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2009
    Location: South Dakota, USA
    Quote Originally Posted by epithumia View Post
    Not sure why you couldn't contact me, but I've added your mission: http://thiefmissions.com/info.cgi?m=LingeringWhispers
    Thank you very much for the quick work! Appreciated!

    Quote Originally Posted by darthsLair View Post
    Congrats on another great mission Sk ! You are an amazing and creative level designer ! A natural to Dromed by all means !
    Haha, you're just glad that, now that testing is over, you don't have to play it again. Me, too.

  6. #6
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: The Wailing Keep
    Congrats, sk! Sorry I couldn't have been more involved in the testing process, but I'll definitely be finding time to play it this weekend.

  7. #7
    Clearinghouse
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Siberia, Russia
    Congrats! Thank you!

  8. #8
    Summer Vacation Contest Winner 2010
    Registered: Sep 2003
    Location: PacificNorthWest...Near Forks
    Quote Originally Posted by scarykitties View Post
    Thank you very much for the quick work! Appreciated!


    Haha, you're just glad that, now that testing is over, you don't have to play it again. Me, too.
    Yep, at 4 hours a shot, but it was always fun and enjoyable never the less.

    A very well done mission !

    I am beta testing Cataclysmic Revelations now, just checking game play features, and I am certainly sick of running through on" one hour shots" over and over and over again

    Thank thy Builder for thy Beta-Testers !!!!

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: May 2010
    Location: Taffer's Inn
    Congrats on the release
    Downloading now.

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Western Australia
    Congratulations on the release
    Cant wait to play.

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2007
    Location: Krull Island, in the pub
    Good to see the mission released! Nice work!

    It was a pleasure to beta-test this one.

  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2004
    Location: Marlborough,England.
    Nice mission indeed.
    How do you use the chemistry set I have the book, the flasks make the clicking noises but when I highlight the sap tank and click on it nothing happens..it remains with 12 drops....also, is it possible to kill Karrass ghost...
    Enjoying this a lot.

  13. #13
    Summer Vacation Contest Winner 2010
    Registered: Sep 2003
    Location: PacificNorthWest...Near Forks
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenhook View Post
    Nice mission indeed.
    How do you use the chemistry set I have the book, the flasks make the clicking noises but when I highlight the sap tank and click on it nothing happens..it remains with 12 drops....also, is it possible to kill Karrass ghost...
    Enjoying this a lot.
    To kill Karrass ghost spoiler:You will have the opportunity later if you desire. Later in the mission.

  14. #14
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2004
    Location: Marlborough,England.
    Oh great... I've just had the royal grots scared out of me by a see through green thing with burning eyes....Does this get any worse...will there be a later.

  15. #15
    bikerdude
    Guest
    @ SC, I would post your email address in open forum, due to earch engine spiders and data mining etc.

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenhook View Post
    Nice mission indeed.
    How do you use the chemistry set I have the book, the flasks make the clicking noises but when I highlight the sap tank and click on it nothing happens..it remains with 12 drops....also, is it possible to kill Karrass ghost...
    Enjoying this a lot.
    Re: the chemistry set

    Gentle hint: Read the readables carefully. One is on a shelf in the apothecary shop, the other is on a shelf upstairs in the area you go through immediately after starting the mission.

    Stronger hint: One readable tells you which bunsen burners to light, the other tells you - obliquely - the order of which 'humors' (bulbs) to frob. You don't need to frob the sap tank at the end to make things.

    Giveaway: One of the readables says never to use the same item twice a row. So, for example, if, for a specific item, it tells you to use 1 drop of A, 2 drops of C and 1 drop of B, and says to start with A and end with C, do ACBC. Doing this, and having the right burners lit underneath, should cause one of the empty bottles to morph into your desired concoction, and the amount of drops of sap in the tank to decrease.

    Finally, figuring out the apothecary is not required to complete the mission, it's just a help if you need one more healing potion, holy water, etc.

    - prjames (a beta-tester of this fine mission)

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: montreal

    weird !!

    right at the beginning i mantled on a crate and explored a bit in the heights waiting for the guard to come back and i fell from the crate and a lantern appeared over my head !
    i am the passion, i am the warfare
    i will never stop always constant, accurate, intense.

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2009
    Location: South Dakota, USA
    Quote Originally Posted by edudrekib View Post
    @ SC, I would post your email address in open forum, due to earch engine spiders and data mining etc.
    Thanks! Tweaked appropriately.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenhook View Post
    Oh great... I've just had the royal grots scared out of me by a see through green thing with burning eyes....Does this get any worse...will there be a later.
    Those shadow AI are actually supposed to be black with red eyes. If they look green to you, that means you have your gamma set way too high. If you want the "full experience" (that is, having to use the portable lights given to you), I recommend setting your gamma down to the point where the only part you can see in the dark is the red eyes. You shouldn't be able to see their bodies unless they are between you and a light area.

    Quote Originally Posted by sexypat View Post
    right at the beginning i mantled on a crate and explored a bit in the heights waiting for the guard to come back and i fell from the crate and a lantern appeared over my head !
    Odd. Not sure where that could have happened. Too bad you don't have a screenshot!

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2009
    Location: Situation's changed, Tom.
    Quote Originally Posted by scarykitties View Post
    Odd. Not sure where that could have happened. Too bad you don't have a screenshot!
    I got the same thing when I jumped to get on a crate, in the room you start in:

    Before:


    After:

  20. #20
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Well obviously there's some favouritism going on here. I don't have a lantern!

    Congratulations on the release scarykitties. I'm really enjoying myself though I haven't got very far yet having been distracted by a bit of sport.

  21. #21
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2009
    Location: South Dakota, USA
    Hmm... Now that I see a screenie of the lantern, I know what it is but not why it is there.

    Fingers crossed that this does not mean a major bug down the road. Let me know if anyone notices anything else out of the ordinary.

    For those who don't see the lantern, be glad. Any others that do, say so.

  22. #22
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2009
    Location: Situation's changed, Tom.
    If you mean that if the lantern appears there, you can't pick up the lantern in the mine - there is no problem there, at least. If you didn't mean that, then I'll just keep playing till I hit against a possible bug.

  23. #23
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2009
    Location: South Dakota, USA
    Nope, that isn't it. Here's hoping that it's nothing.

  24. #24
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas!
    I did not get the lantern but when I picked up the iron ore and then again when I picked up the copper ore I could no longer run?? I could only walk I have had this happen a long time ago!
    I tried getting completely out of Thief and loading save but still only walking speed. I then turned off my PC but still no good, then finally it started working again don't know what I did? Untill I picked up the copper ore??? then it was back to walking

  25. #25
    Thiefmissions.com
    Moderator

    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Houston, Tx., USA
    Maybe the ore is heavy? A coupe of FMs in the past slowed you down when you picked up certain objects, usually as a plot point. (Get chased by horrible deadly things while carrying a man-sized bag of gold or something.)

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