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Thread: Sneaky Upgrade: Unofficial patch for Thief 3

  1. #101
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Ehi Snobel, your taffin' patch will fix the saves path problem on 64 bit OS too or we must edit it manually @ "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Ion Storm\Thief - Deadly Shadows"?

  2. #102
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    It's the plan to have the installer do basic checks on the SaveGamePath value, but it's not in place yet.

    Aside from the keys being in that alternative location, are there any 64-bit specific problems?
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  3. #103
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2009
    Location: Germany
    Replacing the exe files with yours did the trick. The FM selector shows as it should does!

  4. #104
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    That's great! Still strange what went wrong though, but for now let's pretend it was a one-off...
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  5. #105
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2009
    Location: Germany
    Maybe this is helpful for you: My old t3.exe size was about 1,8 MB, yours only 80 k. In T3Main.exe there's no difference between the file size. Maybe there's conflict with the copy protection stuff?

  6. #106
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    Thanks - that's probably it. The smaller T3.exe is the one from the editor pack, and also the one you get with the GOG version of the game. I'm so used to it I tend to forget it's not the original file.

  7. #107
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quicksave problem in St Edgar!
    Crash to desktop

    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
    Application Name: T3Main.EXE
    Application Version: 1.1.0.85
    Application Timestamp: 419badb1
    Fault Module Name: T3Main.EXE
    Fault Module Version: 1.1.0.85
    Fault Module Timestamp: 419badb1
    Exception Code: c0000005
    Exception Offset: 001d2644
    OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
    Locale ID: 1040
    Additional Information 1: 3179
    Additional Information 2: 31795f6fe526d26a59172c62c38bb299
    Additional Information 3: 12c9
    Additional Information 4: 12c9017f0a21ea2f74628d2b52350b58

  8. #108
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    Can you reproduce that crash? If you can, please check if you get it also with the unpatched T3Main.exe. If you don't, then I'd appreciate it if you could upload a working savegame from just before the crash, and provide some instructions on how to trigger it.

    If you can't reproduce it, then chances are that you've hit an 'original' Thief 3 bug (but I would say that, wouldn't I? ). The patch doesn't interfere with the saving code, except indirectly by preventing the property storage overrun, and that shouldn't ever happen in the OMs. I'll have a look though, just in case.
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  9. #109
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Can't trigger now.

  10. #110
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    OK, probably nothing out of the ordinary then...
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  11. #111
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Up!

  12. #112
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    The 1.1.1 release is finally out. I've updated the first post to reflect the current overall status. Edit: Changed the thread title too, pretentiously mimicking TafferPatcher/TFix...

    Edit: Bugfix release 1.1.1.1 is out.

    This version is mostly about FMs. "Why another loader?" you may wonder. The primary goal is to make it very easy and safe to play FMs: If you can download .zip files, then you can play FMs, with no fear of messing up your installation, breaking the original game. (Well, that's the intention...)

    If you're not interested in FMs, then go see the doctorthere's not much new in this release:

    • Better display of aspect ratios in the options screen: Now it shows "16:9" etc. for common aspect ratios, or "~16:10" etc. for aspects that are close
    • Fix for video corruption on Linux/WINE. With this, Thief 3 should have 'platinum' WINE status...
    • T3.exe is now terminated on exit from the main menu, to allow faster restart

    ...so there's actually not much reason to update. But please consider doing so anyway, so that any lurking bugs will have a better chance of being exposed. If you're using an alpha/beta/rc version, definitely update now.

    A couple of things didn't work out:

    • Launching FMSel using a command line argument doesn't work for the Steam version of the game, so for Steam users the installer will set an option to always launch FMSel. The original game can be launched from there.
    • Each FM has its own set of options files, which can be handy, but also confusing: If you change e.g. keybinds or the resolution during an FM, then the changes will not apply to the original game, or any other FM. Ideally the options should be kept in two-way sync, with an option to break the link for individual FMs. Maybe in 1.1.2...
    • On Linux, launching through the FM Selector icon causes a crash. Launch it from the command line: "wine /full/path/to/T3.exe -fm". The icon for the original game works fine.

    There's also still room for improvement in FMSel. It currently is not locale aware at all, so you may get an info file in the wrong language. Also, if you need to play an FM in a locale which differs from that of the original game, then you will have to manually set the locale in the FM's User.ini file.

    A lot of stuff that was originally planned for this release didn't make it due to lack of time, but it's still on the to-do list. The focus for 1.1.2 will be fixes for triple-landscape setups, and better support for the Minimalist Project.

    Many thanks to the testers for this round: Beleg Cúthalion, gnartsch, Pheonix, PsymH, Hiatus and everyone who tried the betas.

    The changes for the FMSel source code are here.

    Reported bugs:

    • (Fixed in 1.1.1.1) The installer causes the checksum field in T3.exe to be updated, even if you cancel installation at the "Additional Tasks" page or later. This means that uninstalling or canceling installation will not leave your game install completely untouched, as it should. Note that the change does not affect the functionality of T3.exe in any way. If you'd like to avoid this, please manually make a copy of T3.exe before installation. Steam users are not affected, because the Steam version of T3.exe already has the checksum set
    • (Fixed in 1.1.1.1) In the Options screen, if you visit the Control or Input pages, then the resolution will be reset to the original value in Options.ini, so you'll have to set it back before leaving the Options screen
    • (Fixed in 1.1.1.1) The main menu version text may partially disappear, depending on resolution and/or aspect ratio. There's a fix for this in the patch, but it doesn't work.
    Last edited by snobel; 2nd Jul 2013 at 15:29.
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  13. #113
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Thanks!

  14. #114
    Clearinghouse
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Siberia, Russia
    Last edited by clearing; 31st Jan 2013 at 21:09.

  15. #115
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    @lowenz: You're welcome...

    @clearing: Thanks!
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  16. #116
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: College Place, WA
    Thanks for the hard work, guys! You're a credit to the community.

  17. #117
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    Hiatus has reported a couple of bugs, so I've added a "reported bugs" list to the release post.

    I'll try to get a bugfix release out soon.

  18. #118
    New Member
    Registered: Jan 2013
    Hi, first of all thanks for this patch, it's much easier to have everything combined in a single one.
    Now I have a problem.
    I installed Thief 3 (Steam version) and after that your patch. I didn't check the "start FMsel each time" because I thought it was only for people who wanted to play FMs (despite there written to select it for Steam version ). Anyway after realising the mistake I uninstalled and reinstalled the patch and then it finally works. Now for some reason it doesn't start the game, for a second I can see that Aero has been disabled and then it goes back to Aero, nothing else happens. What could have caused some error is that after exiting the game, I noticed that Aero was still disabled, so I went to manually enable it and I had to do it a couple of times till it worked, by the way I'm on Windows 7 64-bit.
    I tried uninstalling your patch, after that deleting any folders/files left but it still doesn't work. If I uninstall the patch then the game works, but of course I need the widescreen/multicore fix. Additionally I also verified the game cache through Steam though there was no need.
    Also now when I install the registry key option is greyed out and not selected.
    Lastly, since I'm not interested in FMs, is it possible to directly launch the game?
    Thanks.
    Last edited by ceb; 31st Jan 2013 at 06:29.

  19. #119
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    Lastly, since I'm not interested in FMs, is it possible to directly launch the game?
    Thanks.
    In that case your best/easiest option is probably to install the old version (1.1.0), still available from the first post. It's much less complex and since you don't want to play FMs (what's wrong with you? ) it's almost as good as 1.1.1. If you take that route, please report back if it works or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by ceb View Post
    I didn't check the "start FMsel each time" because I thought it was only for people who wanted to play FMs (despite there written to select it for Steam version )
    It is only for FMs. I'll change the text in the installer to make it clearer.

    Now for some reason it doesn't start the game, for a second I can see that Aero has been disabled and then it goes back to Aero, nothing else happens. [...] I'm on Windows 7 64-bit.
    It's hard to say what goes wrong. The non-Steam version has worked for people running the same OS, so maybe it's Steam interfering? If it is, then you may have trouble with 1.1.0 too. Moving the game out of Steam's reach, and replacing T3.exe in the System folder with the one from the Thief 3 Editor Pack, should take care of that.

    Also now when I install the registry key option is greyed out and not selected.
    That's normal. It just means that the registry value is the same as the path you chose on the previous installer page. Did you see that option enabled the first time you installed it?
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  20. #120
    New Member
    Registered: Jan 2013
    Quote Originally Posted by snobel View Post
    In that case your best/easiest option is probably to install the old version (1.1.0), still available from the first post. It's much less complex and since you don't want to play FMs (what's wrong with you? ) it's almost as good as 1.1.1. If you take that route, please report back if it works or not.
    The old version works! During installation it mentioned something about not being compatible with my version of the game and downloading the latest version (of the patch) but I don't see the FMsel so I don't know what it meant.
    Personally I'm not into mods and the like for games, I just like to play them the way they were made and that's it. Though I do appreciate that a developer lets users make mods.
    Quote Originally Posted by snobel View Post
    It is only for FMs. I'll change the text in the installer to make it clearer.
    I know, but what I meant is that I didn't know the patch wouldn't work without FMsel.
    Quote Originally Posted by snobel View Post
    Did you see that option enabled the first time you installed it?
    Yes.
    Thanks for the help.

  21. #121
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    Quote Originally Posted by ceb View Post
    The old version works! During installation it mentioned something about not being compatible with my version of the game and downloading the latest version (of the patch) but I don't see the FMsel so I don't know what it meant.
    Good that it works for you. The download is not the latest version of the patch, but a different version of the exe that needs patching - the one that comes with the game has some issues with FMs, so the patch is made for the version that comes with the editor.

    Personally I'm not into mods and the like for games, I just like to play them the way they were made and that's it.
    Fair enough. But if you play the game and like it, then you really should consider trying some of the FMs.

    I know, but what I meant is that I didn't know the patch wouldn't work without FMsel.
    The patch will work without FMSel, the installer option is specific to Steam and FM playing.
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  22. #122
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    The bugfix release (1.1.1.1 ) is out, fixing the bugs reported for 1.1.1.
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  23. #123
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Would it be possible to fix the USB bug? When trying to bind keystrokes in Thief 3 while a gamepad is plugged in, the game crashes to the desktop. Pretty easy to circumvent if you know about the problem, but having the patch fix that issue would be nice for people who don't know about it.

  24. #124
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    Probably hard to fix without a gamepad. But post whatever information you have about it, then I can at least have a look.
    Widescreen and tweaks patches: The Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 3, the Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex 2

  25. #125
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2006
    Location: Moscow, Russia
    Quote Originally Posted by snobel View Post
    Probably hard to fix without a gamepad. But post whatever information you have about it, then I can at least have a look.
    The game crashes when trying to map an action which is not supposed to be controlled by analog input AND any of the analog controls is not centered (e.g. returns any value other than 127). I have a gamepad and a joystick, so I can test something if needed.

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