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  1. #1

    Thief 2 Problem with Windows 7

    I am about ready to give up here. I played Thief perfectly on my XP. Then the hard drive died, so I bought a new computer with Windows 7 Premium. Thief2 will not run. Thief3 seems to work, though. I was able to get through the training mission. Here is what I have tried.
    I have searched and searched. Found Salvage's instructions for the nonpermanent and the permanent multiprocessor/hyperthreading fix. Downloaded imagecfg. When I tried the nonpermanent fix, Windows would not allow me to change the affinity. Access denied. When I tried the permanent fix, I created the processor.bat file. The instructions say to put quotes around it, but Windows would not allow that either. When I double click it as the instructions say, it just opens up for editing. Also, there does not seem to be a Windows\system32\dllcache folder, so I unzipped imagecfg to only Windows\system32.
    Searched some more, and found the ddfix. Downloaded that, and unzipped it. Also downloaded the prepatched thief2.exe, and unzipped that. Now when I try to start T2 in garrettloader 1.41, it says that I do not have directx version 7 or later. But I do. I have directx 11. Does the computer see the ones as less than 7? Surely this is an old problem that has been fixed, but I could not find anything. I keep hitting road blocks. If I buy the thief games from Steam, which I would rather not do, they would probably work on Windows 7 premium, right?
    Another question: If I buy the Thief games from Steam, will I be able to run FMs?
    Does anyone have any suggestions? I miss the Thief series, especially T2. Thanks for any help.
    Last edited by damdifyno; 9th Jul 2012 at 20:23.

  2. #2
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    Registered: Nov 2001
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    Start over from scratch using Tafferpatcher, it has all the patches and fixes and works well for most people on Vista/Win7.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Yandros View Post
    Start over from scratch using Tafferpatcher, it has all the patches and fixes and works well for most people on Vista/Win7.
    I will try that. Thank you. I appreciate it.

  4. #4
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    Registered: Nov 2001
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    Welcome, and good luck.

  5. #5
    Oh, well. I tried. It still doesn't work. Thanks anyway.
    I can play the intro, and get to the menu. As soon as a mission starts, the game locks up with a black screen. Can't even start the mission.
    My computer is a 64 bit. Does that matter?
    One thing I noticed is that in the video menu, there is nothing showing for the hardware driver. I don't remember if anythng was there before, but shouldn't there be? Also, my computer has 6 cores. Does that matter?
    thanks anyway, Yandros.

  6. #6
    Could this be a clue?
    I have found that I can start the mission, but all I get is audio while the video stays on the menu. As soon as I move my mouse, the game crashes. Could that mean anything?

  7. #7
    Does the following info help?
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    System Information
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    Time of this report: 7/10/2012, 19:58:50

    Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
    System Model: h8-1234
    BIOS: BIOS Date: 04/17/12 13:39:40 Ver: 7.05
    Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6120 Six-Core Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
    Memory: 10240MB RAM
    Available OS Memory: 10006MB RAM
    Page File: 2093MB used, 17915MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
    System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
    DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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    DxDiag Notes
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    Display Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
    Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.

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    DirectX Debug Levels
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    Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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    Display Devices
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    Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
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    DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
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    Shared Memory: 650 MB
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    Driver Version: 8.941.3.0
    DDI Version: 11
    Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
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    Revision ID: 0x0000
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    Manufacturer ID: 1
    Product ID: 100
    Type: WDM
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    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    Date and Size: 12/23/2011 05:15:09, 535040 bytes
    Other Files:
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    HW Accel Level: Basic
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    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

    Description: Digital Output (S/PDIF) (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Default Sound Playback: No
    Default Voice Playback: No
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    Manufacturer ID: 1
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    Type: WDM
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    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    WHQL Logo'd: n/a
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    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

    Description: Communications Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Default Sound Playback: No
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    Sound Capture Devices
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    Description: Stereo Mix (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Default Sound Capture: Yes
    Default Voice Capture: Yes
    Driver Name: stwrt64.sys
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    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
    Date and Size: 12/23/2011 05:15:09, 535040 bytes
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    DirectInput Devices
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    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Device Name: Keyboard
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    Controller ID: n/a
    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
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    FF Driver: n/a

    Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
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    Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
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    Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
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    Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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    Gameport Devices
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    | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
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    | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
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    Drive: D:
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    System Devices
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    Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
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  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2012
    Location: Slovenia
    I wish I could help in more detail. I do not think the cores are problem, since I play T2 on a Win 7 64- bit, laptop with 8 cores. I did the painful installation (at the main menu I had sound, but dark screen) 7 months ago, with a D:\setup -lgntforce from command prompt, got patch and DDFix. I followed the instructions on various threads, including the one "how to make Thief 2 run on a modern computer" and I have patched it to 1.18. I have Sold Out version.

    Will keep fingers crossed to make it work.

  9. #9
    try updating your video drivers, and make sure you are not forcing FSAA via the control center. reinstall the game, use tafferpatcher (this is the only thing you'll ever need) and use ddfix 1.5.5 instead of the latest one.

  10. #10
    Thanks to all who tried to help.

    I never could get T2 to work (the one I bought as soon as T2 came out). But I found another one that I forgot that I had. On the case, it says that it was made for XP. I forgot that I bought it some time after XP came out. I tried that one yesterday, and it still would not work. So I tried your suggestions (tafferpatcher), and that made all of the difference. T2 now works perfectly. I could not have gotten it to work without you guys. I am happily playing again, and my addiction is satisfied :^) , and so thank you very much. Now I won't have to go through withdrawal :^) .

  11. #11
    Lostcitizen, yours isn't working yet? Do you have the first version of Thief 2? Try googling for the version like mine.... the one that says it is specifically for XP, and then try Tafferpatcher. I hope you get it to work.

    Is there anything that will make Thief Gold work? I had the same problem with that one, although I didn't try Tafferpatcher with it. I am not sure, but I think I read somewhere that Tafferpatcher is for Thief 2.

  12. #12
    Voodoo, thank you. For my own future reference, what is FSAA, and how do I check? Do you know offhand?

    BTW, that ddfix 1.5.5 confused me when I used Tafferpatcher. Shouldn't that one be the latest one? It's number is higher. Thanks for the help.

  13. #13
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: UK
    Quote Originally Posted by damdifyno View Post
    Is there anything that will make Thief Gold work? I had the same problem with that one, although I didn't try Tafferpatcher with it. I am not sure, but I think I read somewhere that Tafferpatcher is for Thief 2.
    This is the patcher for Thief Gold. Maybe I was lucky but I recently installed a Premier Edition TG on Win7 with nothing needed except for setting affinity.

  14. #14
    Administrator
    Registered: Oct 2000
    Location: Athens of the North
    Yes, that patch is the correct one for both Thief 1 and Thief Gold (it auto-detects which game you're patching and installs the relevant files). In theory you shouldn't even need to set the CPU affinity and on Windows 7 it enables the only compatibility setting needed (administrator mode) for the game.

  15. #15
    Thanks, nickie and AI_B. I can't wait to try it. But here we go again. My wife will never see me. LOL! Anyway, I appreciate your help.

  16. #16
    WOW! You people are great! I just played part of the 1st mission in T gold, and it works perfectly! I can even see water. (I read somewhere in another thread that someone couldn't). Thank you. My wife will probably divorce me now. Can I come and stay with some of you? We could rotate. LOL. Thanks a lot.
    Last edited by damdifyno; 15th Jul 2012 at 02:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_B View Post
    Yes, that patch is the correct one for both Thief 1 and Thief Gold (it auto-detects which game you're patching and installs the relevant files). In theory you shouldn't even need to set the CPU affinity and on Windows 7 it enables the only compatibility setting needed (administrator mode) for the game.
    I wasn't being very clear, was I. I meant that I didn't use the patcher at all for my latest installation of TG. Which I found quite astonishing.

    Glad you've got it working damdifyno. We are enormously lucky to have the talented people who make these patchers/patches/fixes/etc. etc. for us.

  18. #18
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    Registered: Jul 2012
    Location: Slovenia
    Quote Originally Posted by damdifyno View Post
    Lostcitizen, yours isn't working yet? Do you have the first version of Thief 2? Try googling for the version like mine.... the one that says it is specifically for XP, and then try Tafferpatcher. I hope you get it to work.
    No, I actually meant mine (T2 Sold out, for Win 98) is working perfectly now since trying the described methods after a couple of attempts (have not tried TG yet). I kept fingers crossed for you to make it work and I am happy you solved it

    Happy (and quiet) taffing!

  19. #19
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    Registered: Oct 2011
    Location: The City, South Quarter
    Damdifyno, I remember well that GL and DDfix don't like each other, at least on my W7. I uninstalled the former one and everything started to work smoothly. Try to get rid of GL and use DarkLoader (http://darkloader.net/) instead - it's an old programme, but it's really stable and easy to use. Then both T2 and T2X will work. Of course, the same for FMs. I haven't tried applying DDfix to T1/TG yet, but it should also go like that. Hope that helps you.

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