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Thread: Thirith has a heart attack: Ultima Forever

  1. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Zerker View Post
    Actually, it also affected allowed equipment (you can't give plate mail to a shepard) and whether you could cast magic.

    I'm definately in "wait and see" mode.

    Although in other news, I'm currently replaying Ultima 7 and loving it
    The more I know!

    I'm actually playing ultima 7 in a more serious way for the first time, it's quite fantastic once I tweaked it up with exult so that interface would work a bit better.

    I love the interactive world!, droppable items is a rarity these days! It definitely is the precursor to the modern elderscrolls.

    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    UO still exists to this day. I don't see the point of reinventing the wheel. All they need to do is transfer it to a "freemium" model and boom, you'll have fresh blood.
    Ultima Online is very different from what it was back then, much of the game elements have been changed.

  2. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldron View Post
    I'm actually playing ultima 7 in a more serious way for the first time, it's quite fantastic once I tweaked it up with exult so that interface would work a bit better.
    I actually find the movement and combat just feels a bit wrong in Exult, so I'm sticking with the original EXE in Dosbox. Just finished raiding Alagnar's Warehouse and grabbed his notebook last play session.

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  4. #29
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Oy. However, that review links to an interesting thought experiment by Richard Cobbett about how Ultima could be rebooted. Definitely some cool ideas in there.

    I did briefly play this iPad abomination and yes, it is that bad. The writing is sickeningly horrible.

  5. #30
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: god dammit dantes
    If I had the goddamn willpower and art skills, I'd do my own reboot to help turn a blind eye to the prolonged and sustained rape of the franchise by EA. Garriot's new project is... mildly interesting, but what I want is an oldschool Ultima from the days it was about inhabiting a world by thrusting yourself into the issues at hand, or simply choosing to say 'fuck it all' and go bake bread for a spell. I have a feeling I'm not alone in that regard.

  6. #31
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    I have a feeling I'm not alone in that regard.
    Most definitely not.

    What I'd be looking for in a spiritual Ultima descendant:

    • A living, breathing world
    • NPCs with actual personalities, regardless of whether they're plot-relevant or not
    • Schedules - nothing over-complicated, but I want to get the impression that the NPCs have a life
    • A world and storyline revolving around ethical questions that aren't the usual good/bad binary
    • Companions that are real characters and not just people who happen to fight alongside you


    What I would like, but can do without: all of this in first-person 3D, at least as an option (I'd like to see the world through my character's eyes) and a return to Britannia (I miss the Britannia of U6 and U7). The former's more likely than the latter; I don't think I'll ever see a modern Britannia in a *good* game, unless someone does a great mod that isn't stopped by EA.

  7. #32
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    If Lord British (aka Richard Garriott) isn't part of it as lead designer or producer then its not Ultima. His heart and soul went into that series and made it what it became + knows it better than anyone else on the planet. Hell he was even in the mmo.

  8. #33
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    To be honest, while I think that Lord British was instrumental at the beginning, I have no reason to believe that he was *the* key figure to what made Ultima VII and especially Serpent Isle the games they were - and interviews with the guy with respect to Shroud of the Avatar don't make me think that he *knows* Ultima better than others. He's the father of the series, sure, and for that I respect him, but at the very least his SotA pitch didn't really convince me that he still knows either Ultima or game design in general. Happy to be proven wrong by SotA's release, mind you.

  9. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by N'Al View Post
    Hardly a great surprise, though.

  10. #35
    "...Ultima Forever is Cow Clicker with a beard." Whoa. That's harsh.

  11. #36
    Cuddly little misanthropic hate machine
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: 4 doors down, bad side of town
    Yeah, while overall tone-wise that's not the harshest review I've ever read, that one line is thunderous.

  12. #37
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    Registered: Jun 2002
    Location: Pacific Northwest
    A free-to-play game? From EA? That sucks??

    PIGS ARE FLYING OUT OF MY ASS AS I TYPE OH GOD HELP ME

    This, of course, means spectacular things for the upcoming F2P Command & Conquer game, also from EA. Someone needs to get these franchises out of EA's hands.

  13. #38
    Personally i am waiting for a remake of Ultima IX (runs away).

  14. #39
    Best part of Ultima IX, trying to leave the house in only some dad pants and being accosted by The Guardian (Avatar's Arch Enemy, not the newspaper): "Surely, you will not go adventuring without clothes, Avatar?"

  15. #40
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Not 100% on this one, but I think it's Hawkwind who tells you that, Ulukai, not the Guardian. Shame - it would've been much better if Big Red had been the one to admonish the avatar for his nudity.

  16. #41
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Quote Originally Posted by fetgalningen View Post
    Personally i am waiting for a remake of Ultima IX (runs away).
    Best line from Ultima 9: "What's a Paladin?"

    Even though in game 2 your friend gave his life to save the world and who was a paladin.

    Watch Spoony's review of Ultima 9 for some good laughs. They fucked that game up royally.

  17. #42
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    It's amazing that there are still a few (very few) people doing fan mods for Ultima IX. What is a real shame, though, is that apparently none of the Elder Scrolls TCs of Britannia ever came about. When I played Oblivion, I thought that it'd be great to explore Britannia in this engine, discovering my old haunts in 3D with a beautiful day/night cycle, changing weather etc. Judging from other games in the engine (especially New Vegas) you could even get some party-based gameplay working. If I had more artistic talent and tons more time, that's what I'd do - though with the Skyrim engine by now.

  18. #43
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Since you mention Elder Scrolls: Here you go

    A quick check of the GOG site you linked + the site they mentioned had that one up there which is still in development.

    I had no idea that people had been and are still doing Ultima 9 mods. Very fascinating.

  19. #44
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    I knew they were working on Titans of Ether, but their work has never made me all that excited. Perhaps (i.e. probably) I'm a snob, but their screenies don't look very good to me, even compared to other fan mods.

  20. #45
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Looks very Zelda-ish (the 3D ones) to me. All lit up and no dark shadows.

  21. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    Best line from Ultima 9: "What's a Paladin?"

    Even though in game 2 your friend gave his life to save the world and who was a paladin.

    Watch Spoony's review of Ultima 9 for some good laughs. They fucked that game up royally.
    Haven't played much of the earlier games, only a few titles here and there. Still, it is somehow one of my favorite games due to the charm it (in my opinion) has. Loved exploring all the areas, as you could make your way around with a little jumping and tricking around. Also the thing with these virtues, cleansing shrines, etc. Having a hard time explaining why or how; its just really loveable despite its flaws.

  22. #47
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    He comes off as a very humble man IMO.


  23. #48
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    The Lord of Death.

    I'm thinking there should be some sort of antithesis to the Star Wars Noooooooo! button.

  24. #49
    Cuddly little misanthropic hate machine
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    Location: 4 doors down, bad side of town

  25. #50
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    Ok, guess that'll do.

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