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Thread: Built-in FM loader in Thief version 1.19 and beyond

  1. #76
    Moderator
    Registered: Jul 2008
    Yes, you need to unzip it into your Thief 2 folder.

  2. #77
    Success! Thank you.

  3. #78
    Member
    Registered: May 2003
    Location: West Seattle
    Hi again, it's been a few years since I've been back to TTLG or Thief FMs...
    I'm trying to get FMs to run on a new computer, and when I try to point FMsel to the FM directory it doesn't want to accept a folder (wanting a zip or rar file). When I click a zip in the folder it gives an error reading "The archive path may not be inside the FM path, or vice versa."
    How do I get it to accept the FMs folder and see the contents?

  4. #79
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    "FMs" is for missions that are currently installed. The archives have to be stored in some other folder.

    On a related note, you might want to give NewDarkLoader a go. It mostly looks like Darkloader but works like FMSel.

  5. #80
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2004
    Location: City Of The Angels
    Having a weird issue with FM select. Installed T2 on a surface pro 4, i7 core, 256GB SSD, 16GB RAM, Intel Iris 540 vid. Windows 10 pro, and got this to work ok with Brethren's help with the video. So anyways, I loaded nobles and craftsmen OK, first run. Exited T2. Went back in. Now the little indicator next to the mission name is grayed out. When I double click to start, window disappears and T2 does not run. It seems that something is lost in translation or something. Anybody know what might be going on? Thanks for any help. (Edit: T2 works OK if I don't try to use FM select)

    I also notice that the FM name is red.

  6. #81
    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004
    screenshot?

  7. #82
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2004
    Location: City Of The Angels
    How do I upload an image? Or can you PM me and ill email it to you?

  8. #83
    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004
    drop it on imgur or similar and link it.

  9. #84
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2004
    Location: City Of The Angels
    ok, this is it.
    Last edited by rustmite; 23rd Dec 2016 at 18:34.

  10. #85
    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by troubleshooting.txt
    Problem:
    Game crashes after clicking any of the Skip/Play FM buttons in FM Selector.
    (on Windows 10 in particular)
    Solution:
    * Try enabling "no_unload_fmsel" in "cam_mod.ini".
    try that.

  11. #86
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2004
    Location: City Of The Angels
    That did it. Your a genius. Appreciate it.

  12. #87
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2009
    Location: Japan
    Quote Originally Posted by Brethren View Post
    OK, so it seems you need a specific .dll in your Thief 2 installation directory in order to convert mp3s to .wav format for any missions that use them. For some reason it is not included in the patch package due to copyright issues (which seems strange to me, considering this is an anonymous, unofficial patch released to the public under cover of darkness with a hacked .exe but hey, what do I know). The file you need is libmp3lame.dll, and it needs to go into your Thief 2 installation directory.
    Is it time to revisit this in New Dark v1.26?

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    Worst case scenario: Wait for the August and December 30, 2017 patents to expire, and then include the appropriate 32-bit DLL in new versions of New Dark. That is probably more along the lines of the New Dark release schedule anyway.
    Last edited by jaxa; 9th May 2017 at 21:45.

  13. #88
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2003
    Location: Nampa, Idaho

    Built-in FM loader in Thief version 1.19 and beyond

    I'm truly vexed as to why FMSel refuses to show certain missions. It has to be something inside the file that it doesn't like. Here's the story:

    1. I download TROTB_2_BETA.zip. (1.3 GB)
    2. Fire up Thief2, whereupon FMSel opens.
    3. Type TROT in the field. Nothing there.
    4. Rename TROTB_2_BETA.zip to simply TROTB2.zip.
    5. Fireup FMSel again. Still not showing.
    6. Delete the FMSel.ini file. Nothing.
    7. Copy the zip to another folder (thinking, maybe it can't read 1000+ files). Still not showing.

    Can anyone think of anything else? Anyone advising me to reinstall Thief will receive my homegrown version of Yummy, Yummy, Yummy.

  14. #89
    Dóttirin klęšist oft móšur möttli
    Registered: Apr 2015
    Is this Rebellion of the Builder 2?
    Mabybe there's a FM.ini with the title. Type "Rebellion" in the search field.

  15. #90
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2003
    Location: Nampa, Idaho
    Is this Rebellion of the Builder 2?
    Yes

    Mabybe there's a FM.ini with the title.
    Yes

    Type "Rebellion" in the search field.
    Nothing

    I manually unpacked the zip file into Thief2/FMs. Still nothing. I then deleted the .ini file in the Thief2 folder, clicked the button that says, "Show FMs that haven't been completed," and it finally showed up.

  16. #91
    Dóttirin klęšist oft móšur möttli
    Registered: Apr 2015
    Quote Originally Posted by Ricebug View Post
    I then deleted the .ini file in the Thief2 folder, clicked the button that says, "Show FMs that haven't been completed," and it finally showed up.
    Which ini file?

  17. #92
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: X:0.0000; Y:0.0000; Z:0.0000
    I've noticed that FMSel sometimes needs to be refreshed when a new FM is put in. Also in NewDarkLoader, you sometimes need to click on Reset All Filters.

  18. #93
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2003
    Location: Nampa, Idaho
    Quote Originally Posted by Unna Oertdottir View Post
    Which ini file?
    FMSel.ini

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