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  1. #501
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    I'm with Heywood, all that other stuff was super popular and everyone loved it, but none of it was on par with the Star Wars movies. I still remember the crazyness when Empire came out, and how you had to buy your tickets in advance, which wasn't really done back then.

  2. #502
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    Location: not here
    Starker grew up in Russia IIRC, so it's fairly easy to see with that context why western releases would be treated similarly in terms of popularity. For even more (unnecessary but I'll foist it anyway) context, most of India couldn't give a fig about sci-fi in general, or science fantasy like Star Wars. I think TLJ lasted 2-3 weeks, while BR2049 was out in 2 weeks flat. It's pretty sad.

  3. #503
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    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: The Land of Make Believe
    I think it's the same situation across the whole of Asia. They have no nostalgia for the earlier films, which is why Force Awakens isn't the all-time highest grossing movie worldwide, even though it destroyed box office records in America and Britain. In China, it's just another sci-fi franchise.

  4. #504
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    Blade Runner is kind of a slow burner anyway and it's not like the original was wildly popular at the release either.

  5. #505
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    It will be interesting to see if that gains a cult following. My bets on a yes.

  6. #506
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    Me too. It's a great, great sequel.

    It's weirdly fantastic actually. I hoped it would at least not be a complete debacle and Villeneuve is a solid director whose other films gave me hope. I didn't expect to be so pleasantly surprised though and I'm always ready to be disappointed, even when a film starts well.

    Take the new RoboCop, for example. The original might be my favourite film and it's certainly the one I can quote the most. So I went into the new one with very low expectations and I was really pleased up until the grenade. That's when it became really naff. The setup was really well done and the body horror reveal was really uncomfortable and well played.

    Luckily Blade Runner never had that grenade moment and was consistent.

    I've high hopes for the new Dune.

  7. #507
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    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: Netherlands
    Yeah, I also really like BR2049 and am glad I saw it in the theater. It's available for rent on iTunes the 14th so watching it again is what I'm going to do on the evening of Valentine's Day! Watching a dystopian sci-fi movie seems oddly fitting for my first Valentine's Day alone in many years. Bollocks to watching any kind of romantic comedy or something like that.

  8. #508
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    I heard from reviews that the Robocop reboot had none of the gore/violence, swearing and dark humor of the original. That like the Total Recall reboot = Zero interest for me, so I never watched them. They were completely unnecessary reboots imo.

    I'd have MUCH preferred a sequel to Total Recall for example, with Paul Verhoven directing again.

  9. #509
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    It had a different humour, not as dark, not as in your face. It was still pretty violent but without all the ott blood packs of the original.

    Yes, both of these changes were missteps.

    The cast was excellent, the core was really solid, the fleshing out was completely wrecked. Boddicker and crew were so integral to the original; although a crew rehash would've probably been too much the film needed a Clarence. The guy in his role was waaaaaay underused, to the point of being irrelevant.

  10. #510
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    Location: Finland


    New trailer looks better than the old one, but still, I don't know man. This thing is gonna have to get some good reviews if it wants to put THIS BUTT *indicates own butt* in a theater seat.

  11. #511
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Third grave from left.
    This was noisy and annoying ... or perhaps i have not woken up properly. I second that i need some good reviews from sources i align with to give a damn.

  12. #512
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    This is the first Star Wars movie that's resulted in a "meh I'll just download it" from me. I'm a HUGE Star Wars fan, so this is a big deal. That said The Last Jedi kinda ruined it for me.

  13. #513
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    Quote Originally Posted by henke View Post
    New trailer looks better than the old one, but still, I don't know man. This thing is gonna have to get some good reviews if it wants to put THIS BUTT *indicates own butt* in a theater seat.
    But what about the skillfully crafted cliffhanger at the end?...You're going to have to see it to find out if Chewy lives.

    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    This is the first Star Wars movie that's resulted in a "meh I'll just download it" from me. I'm a HUGE Star Wars fan, so this is a big deal. That said The Last Jedi kinda ruined it for me.
    Yeah, The Last Jedi was a complete travesty...and a canon-killing embarrassment to the franchise.

    Solo, looks like shit on a stick.

  14. #514
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    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: the Sheeple Pen
    I bet they've dumbed it down FOR THE MASSES too! They've made it for the new generation of Netflix kids and ignored the real fans, us True Jedi Masters! Woe has befallen me! I bet Han Solo can't even jump in the new film!

    To be fair, I can't say that I'm too excited about the Solo film either. It doesn't look bad at all, but it does seem like quite a typical action flick, and I just can't imagine this new guy as the young Han Solo. These are some pretty damn big boots to fill, but who knows, perhaps he succeeds and the film ends up being half decent. I don't get to see too many new films at the movies these days, so maybe I'll go check this out in any case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vae View Post
    ... a complete travesty... a canon-killing embarrassment... shit on a stick.
    Is that better than a blasphemous abomination though, or about the same?

    I thought that The Last Jedi was fairly good actually, but the ridiculous Leia Poppins scene was so cringeworthy that it almost ruined the whole experience for me.

    P.S. naughty words don't suit you

  15. #515
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Force projection across half the galaxy, the Leia Poppins + force field bit, Yoda being able to use force powers even though he's a ghost, ships being able to jump inside others to destroy them, ruining Luke Skywalker, the pointless casino bit etc etc. All these just = disappointing movie.

    Every bit with Kylo was awesome, but he couldn't hold the movie up by himself, regardless of how good an actor Adam Driver is.

  16. #516
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    I agree. The only reason why I watched The Last Jedi was to see what happens to Luke, just for the sake of closure to the original trilogy. They had already killed off Han in the previous episode. I had incorrectly assumed Leia was going to die, because Carrie Fisher had passed and couldn't do the next episode. In my mind, the only thing I was curious about was how they were going to close Luke's story. I was disappointed.

    Here's what I don't understand about the post-Lucas Star Wars films: They have massive budgets and can afford to hire the best writers in the world. And the films are no longer under the creative control of one person who was deliberately trying to make (most of) them into kiddie films to maximize the merchandising. So in terms of story and plot, why aren't they knocking it out of the park? What kind of moron comes up with the cringe-worthy scenes that are all too frequent in TFA and TLJ, and why aren't there people on the staff empowered to call bullshit when they read the script? I'll bet if you polled all the people walking out of the theater after seeing TLJ, 90% would tell you that the Leia in space scene was cheesy and serves no purpose in the film. How does stuff like that make the final cut?

  17. #517
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    From what I recall from early previews, nearly all of them focused on the pointless casino bit. If that rebel alliance leader had just said what she was doing then that entire bit wouldn't have happened. Why was it left in? They needed filler.

    Filler. In a fucking Star Wars movie. Gah. Even the captain phasma bit was pointless. Practically half the movie could have been cut out and replaced with FAR better stuff that wasn't focused on enough like Rey's training, given us more back story on Snoke, show us properly how the first order went from a few forces (the force awakens) to a massive armada within the space of a week (as the last jedi picks up directly after TFA) etc.

    That movie made me really angry. Even the prequels never managed that.
    Last edited by icemann; 11th Apr 2018 at 08:34.

  18. #518
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    Midi-chlorians.

  19. #519
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    Is there any franchise that hasn't had so much bs added to it after a great one or two movies that is hasn't been ruined?

    Marvel Universe is the only one that springs to mind.

  20. #520
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    Location: Finland
    James Bond? Not that it's been all roses, but some of it's best entries are among the latest ones.

    Oh and if Batman counts: Batman. Batman probably doesn't count tho, coz it's not like one continuous franchise so much as indiviual arcs/retellings spread across several decades.
    Last edited by henke; 15th Apr 2018 at 13:48.

  21. #521
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Friday the 13th is another. They didn't mess those up until the 8th one. "Jason Takes Manhattan". Horrible movie. Then we got Jason X which was even more terrible. Prior to that, the first 4 movies added new things and more to the overall back story of it all.

    My favorite entry is the 4th movie.

    If we're only talking of franchises that have many entries but haven't been ruined yet. Hmm. Star Trek (the movies)? The Shatner ones only had 1 bad movie (The Final Frontier). The rest were quite good. The Picard one's didn't have anything terrible, and the Chris Pine movies were all excellent - alright.

    The Chucky movies, for another. Their still making new entries in that and still going strong. Though they are very much an acquired taste. If you like horror comedies (eg Evil Dead 2) then their right up your alley, otherwise stay away.

  22. #522
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    The last Picard Star Trek was awful. I think it was the last one - the one with his Romulan clone or whatever. It was so dire I almost walked out.

    The Mission Impossibles have been pretty good actually.

  23. #523
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    For me, the Star Trek films have always been inconsistent, good ones interspersed with bad ones.
    Same for the Bond films.
    I would say the same for the Marvel films, but I've only seen maybe half of them.
    Batman was going down the tubes until Christopher Nolan rescued it.
    I agree the Mission Impossibles have all been at least decent.
    Same for the Bourne movies I guess, although I think they are played out.
    Another franchise with consistent quality that comes to mind is Harry Potter. They took it just far enough, and stopped at the right time (not counting Fantastic Beasts).

  24. #524
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    Location: The Land of Make Believe
    The three recent Star Wars movies have been very decent indeed, and undeniably better than the prequels.

  25. #525
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Aye Revenge of the Sith was excellent. Besides the "noooooo". Everything else in that was great. Was the only one of the prequels that I went to see twice and I rarely ever do that. Dark Knight was the only other of recent that I've done that for.

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