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Thread: The Unknown Treasure NDV is ready! 7/29/14

  1. #1
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: X:0.0000; Y:0.0000; Z:0.0000

    The Unknown Treasure NDV is ready! 7/29/14

    I have just one last beta testing session to go. So far, all of the bugs were worked out. This should be ready pretty soon.

    ONEDRIVE LINK: <<Unknown_Treasure_NDV_(1.00).zip>>

    Note: The thread for the original version of this mission can be found here .
    Last edited by GORT; 21st May 2017 at 17:28. Reason: Added 'NEW' & date to title + link

  2. #2
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    Registered: Oct 2003
    Location: Nampa, Idaho
    Is this the huge campaign you've been working on for the past several years?

  3. #3
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    Registered: Nov 2003
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    Nah, TROTB 2 is the one that's taking so long (I'm still working on the cut scenes ). This one is the remake of The Unknown Treasure. It takes advantage of the NewDark engine. This version uses the map layout from TROTB 2, and it has two missions in it. This version of the FM set was the way I intended it to be in the first place, but the v1.18 was too limited for it. I'm glad NewDark came out.

  4. #4
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    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    i look forward to playing it

  5. #5
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    Registered: Feb 2006
    Location: Miami Valley
    Can't wait!!

  6. #6
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: X:0.0000; Y:0.0000; Z:0.0000

    Beta Testing Is Done!

    OK, everyone. All of the beta testing is now done. I'm getting it ready right now.
    What website should I put it up on?

  7. #7
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: X:0.0000; Y:0.0000; Z:0.0000
    I'll put up the link here for now until it can be hosted.
    You can get it here at the moment. <<The Unknown Treasure NDV (v1.00)>>>

    Have fun playing.
    Last edited by GORT; 31st Jul 2014 at 09:10.

  8. #8
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    Registered: May 2010
    Location: Taffer's Inn
    Congrats! Almost forgot about this one Downloading.

  9. #9
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    Registered: Jun 2010
    Location: A Former Orange Grove
    YEAH ! Thanks Gort. Downloading it now.

  10. #10
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    Registered: Jul 2008
    Congratulations on the release! Looking forward to playing it.

  11. #11
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: X:0.0000; Y:0.0000; Z:0.0000
    Just remember, everyone. Don't expect the first mission to be exactly the same as the version released in 12-05-2007.

  12. #12
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    Registered: Jun 2010
    Location: A Former Orange Grove
    Quote Originally Posted by GORT View Post
    Just remember, everyone. Don't expect the first mission to be exactly the same as the version released in 12-05-2007.
    Yes, and everyone playing on insane, expect it to be difficult. Lots of AI and light. Also, many guards have full helmets and cannot be black jacked

    I'm about 20 minutes into the game and had to take a rest. I will tackle it again tomorrow. Much more challenging than most games, at least when it come to dodging those AI.

    One bug - at least on the resolution I have the game set to (1920 * 1080 * 32) the starting AVI movie's text is cut off. If anyone else has this issue, try setting the resolution to 640X480, watch the opening movie, then reset to a higher res of your choice.
    Last edited by bjack; 29th Jul 2014 at 19:15.

  13. #13
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    Registered: Oct 2003
    Location: Nampa, Idaho
    I have the text problem in the intro video also. I thought there was a setting in one of the config files to fix that.

    Shaun's FMs are notoriously difficult but extremely fun to play.

  14. #14
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: X:0.0000; Y:0.0000; Z:0.0000
    It's strange that some people are having movie issues. I don't have this problem. Did you guys change something in the cam_ext.cfg file in the movie playback section?
    My settings in my cam_ext.cfg file look like this:
    Code:
    ; extended config (currently loaded prior to cam.cfg)
    ;
    ; contains defaults to enable enhancements and other settings to run nicely on modern systems
    ; (remove/rename file to go old school)
    
    ; ------------
    ; display mode
    ; ------------
    
    ; enable Direct3D 9 based display system (instead of the legacy DirectX 6 one)
    use_d3d_display
    
    ; use a single resolution for both menu system and in-game, with normal double buffering (in fullscreen)
    single_display_mode 2
    
    ; same as above but with triple buffering
    ;single_display_mode 3
    ; alternative buffering mode that uses blitting instead of buffer flipping in fullscreen, the same method
    ; as windowed mode uses (vsync may sporadically miss frame starts on some systems)
    ;single_display_mode
    
    ; scale menu system to fit screen (in "single_display_mode") using 3D HW for best quality
    ; (if you're having trouble like a black screen when starting the game try mode 0 or 1)
    ; when "use_d3d_display" is enabled, 3D HW is always used, this only sets the scale mode to fit screen
    ui_scale_mode 2
    
    ; display refresh synchronization mode (in "single_display_mode"), default is 3 which means enabled
    ; in-game and in menu screens. To disable synch, set mode 0.
    ; NOTE: certain graphics driver settings may override synch behavior of the game
    ; NOTE2: synch support in windowed mode with "use_d3d_display", may depend on Windows version and settings
    ;vsync_mode 0
    ; for displays with really high refresh rates (like 120 Hz) the game might be running too fast,
    ; try following mode to make the game update every second display refresh (if supported by the card/driver)
    ;vsync_mode 7
    
    ; software based framerate limiter (in "single_display_mode")
    framerate_cap 100.0
    
    ; use 32-bit rendering for everything (also filters out 16-bit video modes)
    ; (this is automatically enabled with "use_d3d_display", which doesn't support 16-bit modes)
    force_32bit
    
    ; force game to run in windowed mode
    ;force_windowed
    
    ; for graphics cards that support it, limit buffering of GPU commands to 1 frame in menu screens, to keep
    ; input lag to a minimum (for older cards where this has no effect, it should also work to reduce lag by
    ; setting "SlowFrameUI" to a value that corresponds to the refresh rate or slightly below)
    d3d_disp_limit_gpu_frames 1
    ; enabling limiting in-game can have a positive effect by reducing framerate unevenness, stuttering and/or
    ; mouse lag, at potentially some framerate loss, which may not be an issue if the framerate is high anyway
    ; (should probably be avoided for CrossFire/SLI type of setups)
    d3d_disp_limit_gpu_frames 1 1
    
    ; enable scaling of in-game 2D overlay (HUD), makes the things like current item/weapon text, or SS2
    ; HUD/panels, larger at resolutions of 1280x960 or higher with pixel perfect scaling (requires "use_d3d_display")
    ; NOTE: Enabling scaling may actually improve performance, especially at high resolutions.
    ;d3d_disp_scaled_2d_overlay 64
    ; alternatively a fixed 2D resolution can be defined, which is aspect ratio corrected and scaled up
    ; to the current resolution, without enforcing pixel perfectness (ie. filtering makes it a bit less crisp)
    ;d3d_disp_scaled_2d_overlay 640 480
    
    ; force scaled menu and 2D overlay graphics to always use bilinear filtering, even when scaled an even multiple
    ; (smoothness/fuzziness vs pixel perfectness)
    d3d_disp_force_filter_scale2d
    
    ; lock horizontal FOV to be the same in widescreen modes as in 4:3 (compensates vertical FOV instead)
    ;widescreen_lock_hfov
    
    ; FOV, specified for reference 4:3 aspect ratio, widescreen automatically adjusts this value
    ; (default is 90)
    ;fov 90
    
    ; up to 8 user defined display modes, if you want some resolution that isn't supported by default
    ; format:   [  [   ] ]
    ; NOTE: resolutions exceeding 2048 only work with "use_d3d_display" (because DirectX 6 doesn't support larger)
    ;
    ; 1600x768 32bpp 25:12 (skipping "32  25 12" would also work because default is 32-bit and aspect would be auto)
    ;user_mode1 1600 768  32  25 12
    ; 2880x900 32bpp 16:5
    ;user_mode2 2880 900  32  16 5
    ; 6144x1536 32bpp - three 4:3 monitors at 2048x1536 each, gives an aspect ratio of 4*3:3
    ;user_mode3 6144 1536  32  12 3
    ; 3840x1024 32bpp - three 4:3 monitors at 1280x1024 each gives an aspect ratio of 4*3:3
    ;user_mode4 3840 1536  32  12 3
    ; 32002048 32bpp 25:16 (WQSXGA)
    ;user_mode5 3200 2048  32  25 16
    
    ; enabling this option allows the UI (menus, map/objectives, readables) screens to have its own gamma setting
    ; useful if you get blinded everytime you open the map or read a book
    ;gamma_ui 0.7
    
    ; --------------
    ; movie playback
    ; --------------
    
    ; display movie within the UI area instead of maximizing (only meaningful when "ui_scale_mode 1" is specified)
    ;scale_movie_to_ui
    
    ; crop movies to fill out widescreen displays better (does NOT work in combination with "scale_movie_to_ui")
    ; the original shock cutscenes are letterboxed so this works well there, for thief it's a judgement call to
    ; lose some of the bottom and top parts of the image in favor of covering more of the monitor (the default
    ; crop rect, when not supplying a custom one, is optimized for SS2 and is 0 70 640 340)
    ;crop_movies
    ; alternatively a custom crop rect (left, top, width, height) can be specified with the "crop_movies" var
    ; in virtual 640x480 space, meaning regardless of what resolution the movie is the crop rect is still
    ; specified as if the movie were 640x480
    ;crop_movies 0 70 640 340
    
    ; filter quality used during internal processing of movie, default is 4, if you have performance issues
    ; you can try lowering the quality
    ;movie_sw_scale_quality 2
    
    ; (thief) list of movies to exclude from cropping (only used if "crop_movies" is enabled)
    movie_crop_exclude credits.avi+success.avi+death.avi
    ; (shock) list of movies to exclude from cropping (only used if "crop_movies" is enabled)
    ;movie_crop_exclude intro.avi+credits.avi
    
    ; gamma setting for movie playback (default is 1.0)
    ;gamma_movie 0.7
    
    ; ---------------
    ; texture quality
    ; ---------------
    
    ; load/create all textures as 32-bit and enable other 32-bit rendering path for some other subsystems
    force_32bit_textures
    
    ; enable hardware mipmaps (mode 1 may be faster but may or may not be at lower quality, depends on driver/HW)
    ; NOTE: on less powerful machines this may cause temporary framerate drops as textures are cached in to gfx mem,
    ; try disabling mipmaps by removing the option or setting it to 0.
    mipmap_mode 2
    
    ; mipmap generation mode for lightmaps (only used when hardware mipmaps are enabled), disabled in an attempt
    ; to reduce occasional light bleeding artifacts (YMMV)
    ; 0 disabled, 1 fastest, 2 use same method as mipmap_mode (default when no mode is explicitly set)
    lm_mipmap_mode 0
    
    ; clear lightmap texture surfaces (reduces occurrences of light bleeding artifacts)
    lm_init_texmem 2
    
    ; 1 pixel spacing between cached lightmaps to reduce light bleeding artifacts (requires "lm_init_texmem 2")
    lm_filter_margin 1
    
    ; enable 16 sample anisotropic texture filtering
    tex_filter_mode 16
    
    ; enable trilinear texture filtering
    tex_filter_trilinear
    
    ; adjust the distance factor at which lower mip maps are selected by HW (a value between -16.0 and 16.0)
    ;mipmap_bias -1.0
    
    ; disable the use of anisotropic filtering for lightmaps (combined with other lm_ settings may help reduce light
    ; bleeding artifacts)
    disable_lightmap_aniso
    
    ; enable edge padding of alpha textures (that are no larger than 256) to get rid of purple outlines (this
    ; will add some extra processing while loading texture)
    tex_edge_padding 2
    
    ; edge padding size can be adjusted to increase quality of lower mipmaps (larger pad size) or to reduce the
    ; amount of processing during load (smaller pad size)
    ;tex_max_edge_padding 8
    
    ; --------------
    ; render options
    ; --------------
    
    ; render objects with 1-bit alpha (/chroma key) as opaque objects (alpha test support must not be disabled)
    ; this is not enabled by default as it may have some side effects like z-fighting on overlapping decal objects,
    ; but it probably fixes more than it breaks so it's enabled here
    alpha_test_as_opaque
    
    ; render square particles as disks
    square_parts_as_disks
    
    ; render pixel particles as (small) disks
    pixel_parts_as_disks
    
    ; render (new sky) stars with a resolution independent size (default always renders stars as 3x3 pixel polygons)
    ;fixed_star_size 0.5
    
    ; increased max view distance (default is 256) so z-buffering works correctly on missions with large areas
    ; (individual missions may set an even larger view distance if the mission requires it)
    z_far 512
    
    ; enable z-compare during level geometry rendering this allows somewhat more optimal level geometry rendering
    ; (missions that weren't built with new sky support in mind, may have visual glitches in locations that have
    ; "impossible geometry" when this option is enabled)
    wr_render_zcomp
    
    ; -------------------
    ; D3D9 render options
    ; -------------------
    
    ; NOTE: these options can only have any effect when "use_d3d_display" is enabled
    
    ; by default it will try to use an enhanced 32-bit precision display mode, if the driver supports it, but
    ; there may be instances (like with integrated intel GPUs) where the driver does support it but it may not
    ; work correctly (such as gamma not working), this option will disable the use of enhanced precision
    ;d3d_disp_no_rgb10_buf
    
    ; multisampling (anti-aliasing) level
    ; IMPORTANT: some integrated graphics HW may not work correctly with multisampling and you will be left with a
    ;            black screen, if that happens disable this option again
    multisampletype 8
    
    ; enable 16-bit floating point render buffer (for improved rendering and postprocessing quality, at the
    ; expense of video memory and performance)
    d3d_disp_enable_hdr
    ; enable 32-bit floating point render buffer (if you don't know what else to do with your memory and GPU time)
    ; NOTE: some driver version(s) may have a bug where running 32-bit FP also requires multisampling to be enabled
    ;       or things can break (like a black screen)
    d3d_disp_enable_hdr 32
    
    
    ; enable software (ie. shader) based gamma and color processing (improves quality at the expense of performance,
    ; and also enables in-game gamma to be applied in windowed mode)
    d3d_disp_sw_cc
    
    ; optional saturation setting when "d3d_disp_sw_cc" is enabled, 0 is black and white, 1 is normal color
    ; (does not affect menu screens)
    ;d3d_disp_sw_cc_sat 0.25
    
    ; optional color filter when "d3d_disp_sw_cc", RGB values are between 0 and 1, default is "1 1 1" (white)
    ; (does not affect menu screens)
    ;d3d_disp_sw_cc_rgbfilter 1 0.7 0.3
    
    
    ; enable postprocessing (bloom)
    postprocess 1
    
    ; bloom intensity factor, default is 5
    bloomscale 5
    
    ; bloom/"glow" radius defined as percentage of the screen's diagonal, default is 2 (the larger values
    ; require more GPU processing)
    bloom_range 2
    
    ; bloom saturation, 0 completely desaturated, 1 is fully colored, default is 0.7
    bloom_saturation 0.7
    
    ; min value required (for R, G and B) in order for a pixel to be included in bloom processing, default is 0.6
    ; (with a low value a lot of surfaces will glow, with a high value only the really bright surfaces will glow)
    ; for SS2 you might want to consider increasing this slightly, as the game is generally brighter
    bloom_threshold 0.7
    
    
    ; enable screen distortion effects, like chipped glass or heat distortion from fire arrows
    d3d_disp_enable_distortionfx
    
    ; enable alpha-to-coverage functionality, for smoother edges and less aliasing on alpha tested surfaces,
    ; if the nVidia/AMD/ATI graphics card supports it (requires multisampling to be enabled)
    ;d3d_disp_enable_atoc 1
    ; for nVidia cards that support SSAA this can be enabled instead (slightly better quality at the expense of
    ; performance)
    ;d3d_disp_enable_atoc 2
    ; if "d3d_disp_enable_atoc" is enabled and the graphics card supports it you may also want to enable this to
    ; make the edges even smoother (WARNING: if atoc isn't supported or "tex_edge_padding" isn't enabled, enabling
    ; this will make things look worse)
    ;default_alphatest_ref 1
    
    ; alpha for 2D overlay (HUD text, bitmaps), default is 1 (opaque)
    ;d3d_disp_2d_overlay_alpha 0.7
    
    ; --------------
    ; update timings
    ; --------------
    
    ; use high resolution timers (preferable but disabled by default for best compatibility, as it may not work
    ; correctly on older OS versions, such as some XP systems where hi-res timer implementation uses RDTSC, which can
    ; result in movement speeds going crazy and more)
    ;use_hi_res_timer
    
    ; lock physics updates to a fixed frequency, this ensures that player movement speed is constant and framerate
    ; independent. not necessary if vsync is enabled, however for high refresh rates player movement would still be
    ; faster than originally intended, uncomment this in that case
    ; (vsync method is preferable)
    ;phys_freq 60
    
    ; framerate cap for menu system (specified as minimum frame time in ms), reduces GPU and CPU load in menus
    SlowFrameUI 10
    
    ; set minimum frame time value to 1ms to avoid speedups at high framerates, this does NOT cap the framerate
    ; it only sets the lower frame time limit so that if a frame is shorter than this, the engine will pretend
    ; that it was this long
    min_frame_time 1
    
    ; cap engine update frequency to 250 Hz (specified as min updated time in ms), for a software framerate cap when
    ; using "single_display_mode" it's probably better to use "framerate_cap", this is just a last resort cap
    SlowFrame 4
    
    ; -------------
    ; sound options
    ; -------------
    
    ; if EAX is enabled and sounds sound too direct when under water (the same or almost the same as above)
    ; then try enabling one of these (or experiment with custom values)
    ;submerged_sound_occlusion 0.1 0.5 0.88
    ;submerged_sound_occlusion 0.3 0.1
    
    ; force the use of UnderWater reverb/EAX environment when the player is under water
    ;force_underwater_reverb
    
    ; when using the OpenAL sound driver the default AL device may sometimes cause problems, in particular for
    ; on-board sound controllers, in those instances you can try an alternative AL device. Which other AL devices
    ; are available can be seen in the log file (when AL is enabled). It seems that usually the "Generic Software"
    ; device is available, which is a good one to try as an alternative.
    ;snd_oal_device Generic Software
    
    ; ------------
    ; misc options
    ; ------------
    
    ; enable more elaborate tracing for rain/snow impacts so it also hits more things than just terrain
    ; (the calculations are a bit more expensive, if you're running on a slow machine and experience an
    ; unusual slowdown with rain/snow you could try to disable this and see if it helps)
    enhanced_precip_trace
    
    ; enable more elaborate visibility tracing for coronas so that objects/characters also obstruct line of sight
    ; (the calculations are a bit more expensive, if you're running on a slow machine and experience an
    ; unusual slowdown with coronas you could try to disable this and see if it helps)
    enhanced_corona_trace
    
    ; enable more elaborate tracing for AI footstep sounds so it hits objects and not just terrain
    ; (the calculations are a bit more expensive, if you're running on a slow machine and experience performance
    ; problems you could try to disable this and see if it helps)
    enhanced_aifootstep_trace
    
    ; screenshot format (default is BMP), other options are PNG or PCX (note that PNG shots will take longer
    ; due to the compression process)
    screenshot_format png
    
    ; use a date/time based numeric suffix instead, for screenshot filenames
    ;screenshot_timestamp
    
    ; skip CD check
    skip_starting_checks
    
    ddf_tex_override
    
    ; enable extended keyboard language detection to allow the game to more accurately detect supported layouts,
    ; it also adds support for detection of UK and French Canadian keyboards. NOTE: if the game previously failed
    ; to detect the layout, so it used the default English-US, the key bindings may have to be redone
    ;ext_kb_country_check
    
    ; -------------
    ; game specific
    ; -------------
    
    ; enable new mantling code
    new_mantle
    
    
    ; render particle effects attached to weapons (i.e. fire arrows before being fired)
    render_weapon_particles
    
    ; disable "force matching unrefs" when loading old SS2/T1 particle data so "render_weapon_particles" can handle
    ; rendering instead (to avoid issues like particles randomly disappearing)
    legacy_force_match_unrefs 0
    
    
    ; enable z-buffer use when rendering the player arm/weapon, to get rid of the sword and blackjack being drawn
    ; on top of the hand
    dark_zcomp_arm
    
    ; scale bitmap based inventory icons/objects at higher screen resolutions (like body carry icon)
    scaled_inv_bitmaps
    
    ; alternative shading of visited/current map areas
    ;dark_map_decal_scheme 1
    ;dark_map_decal_scheme 1  -0.2 -0.3 -0.5  -0.2 -0.2 0.2
    ; original look
    ;dark_map_decal_scheme 1  -0.3 -0.3 1.1  1.3 1.3 0.2
    ; original look with swapped colors for visited and current
    ;dark_map_decal_scheme 1  1.3 1.3 0.2  -0.3 -0.3 1.1
    
    ; left align map notes
    ;dark_map_lalign_notes
    
    
    ; use a single bind file in shock (user2.bnd is ignored)
    shock_single_bind_set
    
    ; use a save slot for quicksaves, instead of the original behaviour of simply saving to the autosave
    ; specify 0-14 to use a save slot, or -1 for the default behaviour of using the autosave
    shock_quicksave_slot 14
    
    
    ; head bob scale factor (a value between 0 and 1), useful if the head bobbing is causing motion sickness
    ;bob_factor 0.3
    
    ; weapon bob scale factor in shock (a value between 0 and 1), also useful against motion sickness
    ;shock_gun_bob_factor 0.2

  15. #15
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    The movie text problem can be fixed by putting a semi-colon in front of crop_movies in cam_ext.cfg.

    It used to be commented by default but my recent installations have it uncommented.

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: May 2010
    Location: Taffer's Inn
    I'm at the end of the fire caves(The part with the fast moving fire element patrolling)The first of the treasures is there "trapped" but i can't frob it or anything
    What do i do? I haven't got any of the other treasures yet.

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2010
    Location: A Former Orange Grove
    Quote Originally Posted by nickie View Post
    The movie text problem can be fixed by putting a semi-colon in front of crop_movies in cam_ext.cfg.

    It used to be commented by default but my recent installations have it uncommented.
    Thanks Nickie for the pointer. This is what I had:

    Under the "movie playback" section of the file -
    ...
    ; crop movies to fill out widescreen displays better (does NOT work in combination with "scale_movie_to_ui")
    ; the original shock cutscenes are letterboxed so this works well there, for thief it's a judgement call to
    ; lose some of the bottom and top parts of the image in favor of covering more of the monitor (the default
    ; crop rect, when not supplying a custom one, is optimized for SS2 and is 0 70 640 340)
    crop_movies
    ...


    Uncommented by default for some reason. Easy fix though, but you have to know it is there. Cheers

  18. #18
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    And the only reason I know is that missing text has happened to me a couple of times.

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: Pacific Northwest
    ....gnash, gnash.....took 2 hours to download and I stuck with it because I love GORT's FMs. I know I will have a challenge playing it. Unhappily, it says I have an error in Miss21.mis
    when I try to open it. Any idea what is wrong? I am not technically adept at this sort of problem.

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Location: Planet Crazy Pants
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawggon View Post
    ....gnash, gnash.....took 2 hours to download and I stuck with it because I love GORT's FMs. I know I will have a challenge playing it. Unhappily, it says I have an error in Miss21.mis
    when I try to open it. Any idea what is wrong? I am not technically adept at this sort of problem.
    I say: trying to download it at 36kbps on an overcrowded wifi at starbucks is what's wrong.

    My 2cents - keep the change

  21. #21
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: Pacific Northwest
    I don't do Starbucks, but I get your drift. Usually I have 100+ kbps and I downloaded in the a.m. Will try again in a week or so.
    Thanks anyway.

  22. #22
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: X:0.0000; Y:0.0000; Z:0.0000
    Quote Originally Posted by InfinituS View Post
    I'm at the end of the fire caves(The part with the fast moving fire element patrolling)The first of the treasures is there "trapped" but i can't frob it or anything
    What do i do? I haven't got any of the other treasures yet.
    Hmmm...
    First off the cloak is not one of the treasures, but you will need that to advance. Did you save your water arrows? If not, you'll have to use either a noise maker or some broad head arrows to distract them in order to throw off their patrolling paths. That way you can frob the leavers on both ends of the area. Once you've done that, you'll be able to get the cloak. You'll need that to get past the heat. (Hint: You'll also be able to see the ground on the other end.

    One more thing. How many of the gem plaques do you currently have? I hope you have three of them by now.

  23. #23
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: X:0.0000; Y:0.0000; Z:0.0000
    He he. I've just got an idea, but I don't think I'll do it to any of my FMs anytime soon. Since I can use Dropbox to bring FMs and update them without changing the link, I might be able to make an FM that keeps changing once in a while. Just a thought. It could be some work, but it also would be interesting to see the outcome from it.
    Last edited by GORT; 31st Jul 2014 at 10:33.

  24. #24
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: Pacific Northwest

  25. #25
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    I'm currently stuck.

    I got handed the "There are four treasures, find the first one near his house, then find the other three, then go through a door of fortune" objective and also read a readable about a back rock wall in the person's backyard. I also have Greg's attic key, Unknown key, House and Water Gate key, and Food Store key. Where do I use this attic key and/or where is this rock wall the readable is talking about?. I've found none of the four treasures thus far.

    Thanks in advance.

    - prjames

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