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  1. #276
    Member
    Registered: May 2005
    Location: Full on Kevel's mom
    Not sure what's going on here, but I can't seem to get this working.

    NDL successfully launches when I open thief2.exe, but it doesn't let me get passed setup.
    I select my FM archive and press continue and I get this:



    If I hit cancel, I'll get this:



    The full text:

    ++++
    See the end of this message for details on invoking
    just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

    ************** Exception Text **************
    System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
    Parameter name: index
    at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentOutOfRangeException(ExceptionArgument argument, ExceptionResource resource)
    at NewDarkLoader.Form1.selectLastPlayed()
    at NewDarkLoader.Form1.Form1_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


    ************** Loaded Assemblies **************
    mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.7.2102.0 built by: NET47REL1LAST
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    NewDarkLoader
    Assembly Version: 1.5.2.0
    Win32 Version: 1.5.2.0
    CodeBase: file:///E:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/thief_2/NewDarkLoader.DLL
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.7.2104.0 built by: NET47REL1LAST
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    System
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.7.2103.2 built by: NET47REL1LAST
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.7.2046.0 built by: NET47REL1
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Configuration
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.7.2046.0 built by: NET47REL1
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Core
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.7.2102.0 built by: NET47REL1LAST
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.7.2102.0 built by: NET47REL1LAST
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    Accessibility
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.7.2046.0 built by: NET47REL1
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll
    ----------------------------------------

    ************** JIT Debugging **************
    To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
    application or computer (machine.config) must have the
    jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
    The application must also be compiled with debugging
    enabled.

    For example:





    When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
    will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
    rather than be handled by this dialog box.



    ++++

    Then I get the newdarkloader main menu, but it's all blank:



    What am I doing wrong?

  2. #277
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    Quote Originally Posted by Cavalorn View Post
    When I press "edit XY" I get an empty Dromed screen with the name of the mission in brackets, but I don't anything at all.
    What do you mean by 'empty Dromed screen'? Nothing at all, or the usual interface with no mission loaded? If the latter, does it not let you open the mis file?

    Quote Originally Posted by Random_Taffer View Post
    Not sure what's going on here, but I can't seem to get this working.

    NDL successfully launches when I open thief2.exe, but it doesn't let me get passed setup.
    I select my FM archive and press continue and I get this:

    http://i.imgur.com/UOE2ztS.png

    If I hit cancel, I'll get this:

    http://i.imgur.com/IXzAQ7B.png
    The first message box is blank because of a bug related to multilanguage support, but it will be saying that the folder you selected is for installed FMs, not archives.

    The second one is a generic one from MS to help people like me see what functions were running when the problem occurred. In this case the function is called selectLastPlayed, which selects either the last FM you played, or if there isn't one, the first row in the table. Because you clicked on Cancel, there is no FM archive folder, it's trying to select a row that doesn't exist.

    This version has been tweaked to make the program more stable, and the first error message may now help to guide you to making the right choices in Setup.

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/c2r4so...oader1.5.4.zip

  3. #278
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2006
    Location: Vault 101
    @R Soul: Sorry for not being clear enough. Yes, that's what I meant, but the problem was solved in the meantime. Thanks anyway.

  4. #279
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2012
    Location: San Miguel de Salinas, Spain
    Hi R Soul,
    just stumbled upon a problem in NDL ( 1.5 ). I moved some directories ( Thief dirs and fm dirs ) from one drive to another. NDL crashes upon startup. I then adjusted the ArchiveRoot in NewDarkLoader.ini to the new location and NDL starts up. I would suggest to handle this kind of error with the config dialog to adjust the values.
    Regards,
    Jörg

  5. #280
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    Yes, handling that situation should be fairly straightforward.

    edit: Next version, 1.5.5:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/gi2c6x...oader1.5.5.zip
    Last edited by R Soul; 29th Oct 2017 at 19:31.

  6. #281
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2012
    Location: San Miguel de Salinas, Spain
    Problem solved, thanks.

  7. #282

    New Darkloader Crash

    I noticed that when I take my USB drive to other computers and try to run thief2.exe so that it loads new darkloader, it will crash with an unhandled exception.
    After poking around at the stack trace I see that it's complaining that it can't find the directory set in NewDarkLoader.ini.

    ArchiveRoot=G:\games\T2_FMs

    When I'm on my computer at work, it's usually I:\

    I found though that if I just remove the drive designation and leave it as:

    ArchiveRoot=\games\T2_FMs

    It works fine no matter what drive letter gets assigned.
    Would be nice if the program was smart enough to use relative paths to begin with, but at least there's a work-around in case anyone else has this issue.

  8. #283
    Desperately dodgy geezer
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: The Wailing Keep
    Quote Originally Posted by AluminumHaste View Post
    Would be nice if the program was smart enough to use relative paths to begin with, but at least there's a work-around in case anyone else has this issue.
    The fact that your workaround works would indicate that the program uses relative paths just fine.
    Perhaps it's the user that needs to be smart enough to use relative paths as you were.

  9. #284
    Yes sorry, didn't mean to make a dig with that wording.
    The issue is that not only does it not default or fall back to relative path search for FMs folder, it crashes without an error message when it can't find the directory.

    EDIT: If this exception was caught it could at least post the error message so we could know what the error is.
    Last edited by AluminumHaste; 6th Nov 2017 at 15:31.

  10. #285
    Desperately dodgy geezer
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: The Wailing Keep
    I know, I got that and I agree that it should be addressed, I was just playing a bit. I'm sure R Soul will probably want to fix this.

  11. #286
    lol I just tried NDL 1.5.5 and now it's crashing again.
    I deleted the INI file and did the set up again, just crashing.

  12. #287
    I check the crash dump and this time it's:



    All these zip files worked with the previous version.

    EDIT: I've removed all the zip files except Deaths' Cold Embrace, and now it loaded up.
    Something in the older zips it doesn't like.
    Last edited by AluminumHaste; 6th Nov 2017 at 21:14.

  13. #288
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    I've started looking in to support for relative paths. If you provide a link to one of the zip files that seemed to have caused a crash, I can look at it in more detail and see what I can do.

  14. #289
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2013
    Location: Denver, CO

    some conflicts

    first timer i got it all loaded and played a mission on this new version ... when i closed it and in few hours i wanted to play other missions ... it pops up like first time loading ... so i approved then it's all blank so i clicked refresh ... this is what i got ... what did i do wrong? all of fans mission is in Zip and 7G.exe is set up in there, started fresh instead of changing names ...

    https://imgur.com/a/06lcW

  15. #290
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    It's hard to tell without more info.
    Go to Thief2\FMs\NewDarkLoader.ini, and in the [Config] section type in Log=1 on its own line. Run the game again, and then go back to the FMs folder. You should now see a file called ndlog. Post its contents* here or in a PM to me, and I'll see if I can identify the cause of the problem.

    *Surround them with [code][/code] tags to keep the post/message compact.

  16. #291
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2013
    Location: Denver, CO
    Quote Originally Posted by R Soul View Post
    It's hard to tell without more info.
    Go to Thief2\FMs\NewDarkLoader.ini, and in the [Config] section type in Log=1 on its own line. Run the game again, and then go back to the FMs folder. You should now see a file called ndlog. Post its contents* here or in a PM to me, and I'll see if I can identify the cause of the problem.

    *Surround them with [code][/code] tags to keep the post/message compact.
    [code] Log file: 11/29/2017 11:44:28 PM
    Game: C:\Games\Thief2\thief2.exe
    Archive Path: C:\Games\Thief2\
    Installed FMs: C:\Games\Thief2\FMs
    No FMs found. [/code]

    which is very interesting it won't find the list even after the first time it found and i played it when i returned to it later in few minutes to hours to play other missions ... it doesn't find it ?

  17. #292
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    By quoting my post you confused yourself because quoted posts show all the formatting tags. My suggestion was to use code tags only. The purpose of the noparse tags in my post was to stop the code tags being processed so that you could see what to do. But since the log file is so short it made no difference.

    Archive Path: C:\Games\Thief2\
    That's been set incorrectly. That's your game installation folder. The archive path should be where all the FM zip files are stored.

  18. #293
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2013
    Location: Denver, CO
    Quote Originally Posted by R Soul View Post

    That's been set incorrectly. That's your game installation folder. The archive path should be where all the FM zip files are stored.
    Okay ... looks like i had done it correctly ... exactly where C:\Games\Thief2\fms is where the fan Mission Zip is located ... but it keeps pop up saying "the selected archive folder is actually your installed FMs folder"

    do i need to move FMS folder out of Thief2 and put in Game folder but as (Thief 2 Fan Missions)?

  19. #294
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    Quote Originally Posted by icy7rider7 View Post
    do i need to move FMS folder out of Thief2 and put in Game folder but as (Thief 2 Fan Missions)?
    The folder itself should stay where it is (and it should contain the file NewDarkLoader.ini), but all of the Zip files need to be moved to some other folder. Once you've done that, run NewDarkLoader again and tell it where that folder is.

  20. #295
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2013
    Location: Denver, CO
    Quote Originally Posted by R Soul View Post
    The folder itself should stay where it is (and it should contain the file NewDarkLoader.ini), but all of the Zip files need to be moved to some other folder. Once you've done that, run NewDarkLoader again and tell it where that folder is.
    that's where my Error is it's all smooth now! thank you so much for your patience!
    YOU ROCK!

    Keep Fan Mission going! I am keeping going with both of it ... TDM and Thief 2! thief the dark project is okay ... Thief 2 is best TDM way better

  21. #296
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2012
    I am trying to play the Thief Gold FM "Between These Dark Walls" in windows 10.
    only this one Thief Gold FM is installed. no other Thief Gold FM's. TFix_1.25c is installed.
    I double click on the Thief Gold desktop shortcut. NewDarkLoader opens.
    I choose the FM Archive Folder and click "OK"

    In the FM list, I see "Between these Dark Walls"
    I click on "Play Between these Dark Walls" and the mission starts fine. So far, everything is fine.

    I exit the game, and double click on Thief Gold desktop shortcut.
    NewDarkLoader opens. Archive folder is already selected. I click OK.
    Here is the problem: the list of FM's is an empty grey box.

    I close NewDarkLoader. I delete NewDarkLoader.ini in the Thief Gold /FMs folder.
    Then, I double click on Thief Gold desktop shortcut.
    I choose the archive folder and click "OK".

    In the FM list, I see "Between these Dark Walls"
    I click on "Play Between these Dark Walls" and the mission starts fine.
    ***I must delete NewDarkLoader.ini every time I want to play a fan mission***

    NewDarkLoader1.5.5 contains this file:
    7z.dll 11/18/2010 893KB
    But I choose to keep my 7z.dill because it is newer and larger
    7z.dll 10/4/2016 1049 KB
    All other files in NewDarkLoader1.5.5 extracted normally (without any issues/problems)

  22. #297
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2006
    Location: Troyes, France
    Could it be possible to pin this thread? If think this is a really good alternative to the classic DarkLoader nowadays.
    Enhanced Thief Fan Missions Archive: [TTLG thread]
    DromEd Level Editor Developer Textures Kit: [TTLG thread]

  23. #298
    Moderator
    Registered: May 2000
    Location: Thunder Bay, On., Canada
    There are too many threads that are worthy of being pinned at the top so instead, if you check, you will see a Links thread. The first post includes links to all the threads of importance, including loaders, all sorted out for your convenience.

  24. #299
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    Quote Originally Posted by partol View Post
    In the FM list, I see "Between these Dark Walls"
    I click on "Play Between these Dark Walls" and the mission starts fine.
    ***I must delete NewDarkLoader.ini every time I want to play a fan mission***
    I've not been able to recreate the problem, and I happen to be using the 2016 version of 7z.dll.

    Please edit the NewDarkLoader.ini and in the [config] section add this on its own line:
    Log=1

    Run NDL with the FM, until you encounter the problem, then post the contents of ndlog.txt (which will also be in the ThiefG\FMs folder).
    If necessary you can use [code][/code] to keep things compact.

  25. #300
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2012
    There are currently two Thief Gold FM's installed.
    But the FM box is empty and grey.
    If I exit NewDarkLoader, delete NewDarkLoader.ini , and restart. Then, both FM's appear in the FM box and can be played.

    Code:
    Log file: 12/15/2017 7:42:55 PM
    Game: C:\Thief Gold\THIEF.EXE
    Archive Path: C:\thief_gold_archive_folder
    Installed FMs: C:\Thief Gold\FMs
    No FMs found.
    Update:
    I changed the FM Archive Folder to a random folder.
    C:\temp
    Now, both FM's appear in the FM list and can be played.
    Last edited by partol; 15th Dec 2017 at 16:13.

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