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Thread: Played Thief for years before discovering...

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    Member
    Registered: Oct 2013

    Played Thief for years before discovering...

    ...that you can blackjack enemies who have been stunned by a flashbomb. Think I just assumed it would not work because they were in an alerted state, until I saw it mentioned in a walkthrough. Been playing Thief games since 2002 and only discovered this today.

    Do you have any "late to the party" things to share, where you discovered them after having played Thief games for years?

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    Desperately dodgy geezer
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: The Wailing Keep
    Did you also know that you can knockout a fully aware (alert level 3) enemy who is charging you, if you are in full darkness and lean forward when swinging the blackjack?

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    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    Location: Montpellier, France
    Also works when you do it from behind and it's way easier too.

  4. #4
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Location: Wild and Wooly West of Ireland

    Spot on, Chris.

  5. #5
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2005
    Location: Heart of Darkness
    I discovered the secret door at the end of the main office of Shoalsgate last week.

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    Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Location: Wild and Wooly West of Ireland
    Last edited by Purgator; 6th Sep 2016 at 20:00.

    Spot on, Chris.

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2005
    Location: Heart of Darkness
    Quote Originally Posted by Willy Wonka View Post
    Tell me more about your life as a master thief
    I STOLE FIZZY LIFTING DRINKS! I BUMPED INTO THE CEILING WHICH NOW YOU HAVE TO WASH, AND STERILIZE, SO YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!

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    New Member
    Registered: Feb 2014
    I remember it took me a couple of playthroughs to realise that moss arrows actually cover a lot more that just the little blobs that appear. I always looked at it and thought "pffft that's useless" and didn't ever use them

    Took me years to realise there were keybindings for certain inventory items. I had been scrolling through my entire inventory every time to get something

  9. #9
    New Member
    Registered: Aug 2013
    I played the first Thief after beating System Shock 2, it was only then when I learned that you can actually climb up ledges by holding space. Explained many situations I got myself into in SS2.

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    the most important thing i learned was the diagonal jump for extra distance,along with the leaning forward bj

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    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Quote Originally Posted by Debrell View Post
    I played the first Thief after beating System Shock 2, it was only then when I learned that you can actually climb up ledges by holding space.
    Yeah, SS2 does force you to discover a lot of important things on your own.



    Or not.

  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2013
    Offtopic but the background ambient "pulse" soundtrack in that clip takes me back. So simple but brings back memories of what a great atmospheric game SS2 is.

    Maybe Debrell didn't play the tutorial. I always play the tutorial in games, but not everyone does. Plus it is easy to forget little things even if you have if not overyly mentioned by the game again.

    Discovered an exploit in Escape. If you run from a chasing enemy to a point they cannot reach you, such as jumping down from that opening that leads into the void, or one of the places you can duck to get into in the opening stairs area, sometimes the chasing enemy will run off to get help as if they are in "flee" mods. So you can then just come back out and chase them down, and they won't attack you.

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    Member
    Registered: Apr 2016
    I've only recently found out that guards alert to stray arrows.

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    New Member
    Registered: Aug 2013
    I never claimed SS2 didn't have a tutorial for climbing, it's possible that I either forgot that part or ignored that particular tutorial.

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2013
    Location: Waiting...in the Cradle...
    Not directly game related but it was 2014 before I realised Ion Storm Austin wasn't some guy named Austin that had acquired an inexplicably awesome nickname. I always imagined he was some grandee in the community, maybe related to T2X or something.

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Well, I still can't quite believe American McGee is the name of a real person.

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2005
    Location: Heart of Darkness
    The craziest thing is listening to Romero telling his multidecade old anecdotes from id and he says something like "Then me and Adrian were like blabla and American said..." -wut? It's just weird. To them it's just another name but to and outside observer it really sounds strange to refer to someone with an adjective. Imagine if Prince had change his name to "Majestic" instead of The Artist.

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Sep 1999
    Location: Portland, OR
    Quote Originally Posted by Yandros View Post
    Did you also know that you can knock out a fully aware (alert level 3) enemy who is charging you, if you are in full darkness and lean forward when swinging the blackjack?
    Oddly I just found this out last night. In Trickster's Gem Mine biodome level, in a corridor stripped with shadows I was just playing around and swung on a charging guard and knocked him out. I was so confused. I also found out later, like 05, that you can knock them out with alertness by hitting the back of the head repeatedly vs them dying if you hit them from the front.

    I've logged countless hours going over every inch of the game too, so it makes me wonder what else I'm missing.

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2013
    Oh dear, I have now discovered that you can blackjack guards who are hunting you with their swords in the air, from both front and back if they haven't spotted you yet.

    I am sure I vaguely remember trying this many years ago and the guard just reacting as a Haunt would if you blackjacked them (ie they stagger for a second or two before recovering). I wonder if this is some sort of NewDark change, or I am just misremembering.

    And to think - SLIGHT SPOILER ALERT - I did the long trek home in Assassins by avoiding all enemies, because I thought blackjacking them would just make them angrier. That Iron Man could have been achieved so much simpler

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    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: Montreal, Canada
    It was either Escape or Strange Bedfellows. I'd played Thief for years, and one day while replaying I discovered an extra area with a couple bugbeasts and a tree that I'd completely missed

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    Member
    Registered: Sep 1999
    Location: Portland, OR
    Quote Originally Posted by Azaran View Post
    It was either Escape or Strange Bedfellows. I'd played Thief for years, and one day while replaying I discovered an extra area with a couple bugbeasts and a tree that I'd completely missed
    If it's Escape, there is one like that so early, it's easy to miss depending on the many paths you can take from the start.

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    Member
    Registered: Dec 2011
    Location: Ferrol - Spain
    Yes, it´s Escape and inside that tree there´s a readable (M12RITL):

    page_0: "Draws the scribed Star, marks the Compasses. The Eye, shows the \
    marksey lines of power.

    Marks the Compass Borning, the Compass Leaf, the Stormsie Compass, the \
    Flamesie Compass, the Compass Tidestream, the Compass Stone, the \
    Compass Darkness... etc...

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    Member
    Registered: Sep 1999
    Location: Portland, OR
    It would be cool, if not already existing, if there was a FM with these different compasses as the central point to the mission.

  24. #24
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    Location: Montpellier, France
    These compasses are the pedestals in Constantine's ritual circle.

  25. #25
    Member
    Registered: Sep 1999
    Location: Portland, OR
    Quote Originally Posted by skacky View Post
    These compasses are the pedestals in Constantine's ritual circle.
    I thought they were the rocks similar to the eye on the pedestals.

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