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View Poll Results: How long will Trump be President?

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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    17 19.10%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    24 26.97%
  • 1st Term Impeachment/Assassination

    39 43.82%
  • 2nd Term Impeachment/Assassination

    0 0%
  • I don't know what's going on!

    9 10.11%

Thread: ✮✮✮ !Trump Dump! ✮✮✮

  1. #5876
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Eh, you get numb to it after awhile.
    You might do, Renz, but I no longer am. The man is pure poison and I have children and grandchildren to worry about. I'd rather like them to have a future. Funny the things you remember out of nowhere.

  2. #5877
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Cf. “I Hate Everyone in the White House!”: Trump Seethes as Advisers Fear the President Is “Unraveling”

    I feel like he's been unraveling since his first week in office, so not even that matters practically. The only thing that matters is if his cabinet invokes the 25th Amendment to effectively remove him from office, otherwise we just carry on with an unraveled president and let the chips fall where they fall, and hopefully that's just an endless stream of gaffes to the end and nothing harmful to the country & irreversible.

    The image that comes to my mind there, though, is that embarrassing display (aren't they all?) where Trump went around the table and forced each of his cabinet members to say nice things about him. It's a pack of delusional sycophants that would have no business being there without him. But if Steve Bannon says the biggest threat to Trump is his cabinet turning against him, it may be in the cards.

    At this point it's only interesting to watch as palace intrigue, since that kind of tension snapping into some kind of internal coup would be viciously epic, in the B-movie political thriller sense. To mirror Renz, eh, we take what we can get.

  3. #5878
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_Tarantula View Post
    The most amazing thing I find about all this is how quickly the alt-right have turned on everyone they once claimed to support. Trump's tenure in the White House has seen more attacks against the Republican base than just about any other group out there, attempting to prune the party of anyone that doesn't toe with absolute certainty their ideological line.

    In a roundabout way, they'll end up being the ones responsible for bringing the mainstream left and right back together again (or at least begrudgingly willing to cooperate). By the time they're done, they're going to have 10 hardline crazies in their corner, facing off against everyone from the most socialist of the Greens, all the way to the most classically conservative of the Republicans.

    In the end, the only vote Trump will be able to hold on to are the Evangelicals, who seem to love him for some reason. Everyone else is seeing him for what he is: a guy who ran for the highest office in the land as a vanity project, and ended up being too ill equipped to handle the job.

    RICHARD SPENCER 2020!

  4. #5879
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Vertigo, DragonSand, Xeen
    Why dont we just vote the big guy in once and for all and be done with it!


  5. #5880
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    Hillary? no thanks

  6. #5881
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    The most amazing thing I find about all this is how quickly the alt-right have turned on everyone they once claimed to support.
    Eh, I dunno. What else could happen? Their expectations are unhinged. Their faith is greatly reduced after the Dubya administration. To keep their support, Trump needed to lose the election. Once he won, there were going to be...expectations.

  7. #5882
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    I think what the Alt-Right really wants is someone on live TV going down a list of racial slurs, ending it all with two middle fingers flying high, and a big "FUUUCCKKKK YOOOOUUUU, CUCKS!"

    What the want, in other words, is a giant nigh-incoherent douchebag to lead them to their Promised Land.

    KID ROCK AND/OR TED NUGENT 2020!

  8. #5883
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by jkcerda View Post
    Hillary? no thanks
    I swear to god, if my food isn't on the table when I get home tonight, I'm calling ICE.

  9. #5884
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    After all the love that I give you.....

  10. #5885
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    I see you with Gutwrench. I know what you're up to.

  11. #5886
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Quote Originally Posted by jkcerda View Post
    Hillary? no thanks

  12. #5887
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Vertigo, DragonSand, Xeen
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Everyone else is seeing him for what he is: a guy who ran for the highest office in the land as a vanity project, and ended up being too ill equipped to handle the job.
    So here again you are concerned with those who *actually vote*. Speaking somewhat on behalf of those who choose *not* to vote/support corruption, nobody cares about who is in office, as the entire system is corrupt.

    This latest presidency was marred from the start with false accusations from the opposing political party, that have yet to produce its fruits. Where is the evidence of collusion, the very collusion that was *so* fucking important that it clogged up the works.

    Now, a year later, we can sit here and throw all of our conjured up mud at the president, based solely on lies that we manufactured from the start. We will never know if this president can handle the job, it was tainted from the start, by the lies of the opposition...

    Amazingly, what Trump *really* did was start to wake even further, the rest of the non-voting America, to take a peek into all this bullshit that is happening on our tax-paying behalf! So many people who used to tell me that they hated politics and dont even think about it, now tell me that they think the dem/repub is a hoax.

    Kid Rock for pres? Sure! Lets burn this mother down to the ground!

    INDEPENDENCE


  13. #5888
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    I see you with Gutwrench. I know what you're up to.
    got to keep options open in case you back out........
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldmoon Dawn View Post
    So here again you are concerned with those who *actually vote*. Speaking somewhat on behalf of those who choose *not* to vote/support corruption, nobody cares about who is in office, as the entire system is corrupt.

    This latest presidency was marred from the start with false accusations from the opposing political party, that have yet to produce its fruits. Where is the evidence of collusion, the very collusion that was *so* fucking important that it clogged up the works.

    Now, a year later, we can sit here and throw all of our conjured up mud at the president, based solely on lies that we manufactured from the start. We will never know if this president can handle the job, it was tainted from the start, by the lies of the opposition...

    Amazingly, what Trump *really* did was start to wake even further, the rest of the non-voting America, to take a peek into all this bullshit that is happening on our tax-paying behalf! So many people who used to tell me that they hated politics and dont even think about it, now tell me that they think the dem/repub is a hoax.

    Kid Rock for pres? Sure! Lets burn this mother down to the ground!

    INDEPENDENCE

    good post.

  14. #5889
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    It's pretty stunning just how selectively conspiracy theoristic GMD is.

  15. #5890
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Yup. It's always amazing how the people who always claim to be independent thinkers, totally divorced from the Dem/Repub divide, almost always seem to be walk in lockstep with the Republicans while damning the Democrats for every conspiracy theory under the sun.

    Like where was GMD when the Republicans were fielding 9 separate investigations against Hillary Clinton concerning Benghazi? Was he bitching when the FBI spent over a year going over Hillary's email server with a fine toothed comb? Nope. Nary a word was said.

    But 8 months into a special investigation into our current president over the possibility of collusion, and suddenly it's all a goddamn conspiracy manufactured by the Democrats and mass media to smear Donald Trump's good name with manufactured lies.

  16. #5891
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Why does a campaign rep asks the Russian embassy for a secure phone line to the Kremlin? Who does that? Really. For what possible reason? What would they be hiding? Dirt on Hillary?

    Oh and remember those Russian sanctions Trump signed into law proving he's anti-Russia in the end after all? Yeah, it's 2 weeks past a Senate-imposed deadline and Trump evidently has no intention of actually sanctioning Russia, even after signing them into law.

  17. #5892
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Granted I didn't really even need it to think he's unfit for office though.
    The guy blubbers as badly as the "have you ever had a dream" kid.
    The Secretary of State called him a moron this week.
    And not even in the Gerry Ford, doesn't know his ass from his elbow, sense. He was saying something truly moronic at the time.

  18. #5893
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    The problem with Trump is that you can't really nail down anything he does as being 100% de facto truth of his guilt. Concerning Russia, his actions could equally be described as "he's covering his ass to protect his own interests", or "he's a tone deaf idiot doing things to protect his ego."

    Like firing Comey over the "Russia thing"? He could be telling us the gospel truth. He's not guilty, he knows he's not guilty, and he was tired of being associated with something he wasn't guilty of. Damn the optics and the consequences, he's gonna fire the guy because he wouldn't go on record to state the obvious, and he's wasting everyone's time.

    ...or maybe he is trying his damnedest to derail an investigation that would've eventually exposed the actions he and his campaign took to secure the presidency for the world to see.

    WE DON'T KNOW! Both are equally likely outcomes here.

    Trump does what Trump wants to do, regardless of law, and worries about the fallout later. In the case of the above, he could still be accused of obstructing justice, because even if he's innocent, sporting no ulterior motives behind his reasoning for firing Comey, he admitted on live TV of firing the then current head of the FBI because he though the Russia Thing was a waste of time. Obstruction is still obstruction, regardless if the obstructor has anything to gain or lose from it.

    So now we the people and our government at large have to deal with the question of that as well, on top of the still as of yet unanswered question of collusion.

    Donald Trump is his own worst enemy. The best thing he could've done was let it roll out, then leverage the situation to his political advantage if it concluded with no evidence of guilt. All he served to do was toss more gas on an already heavily burning brushfire, making things more complicated for everyone involved.

  19. #5894
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    still love the fact trump won, Hillary needs to be jailed .

  20. #5895
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Saying you're glad Trump won, because Hillary is skeevy is like saying you're glad you traded Irritable Bowel Syndrome for dick cancer.

  21. #5896
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    Why does a campaign rep asks the Russian embassy for a secure phone line to the Kremlin? Who does that? Really. For what possible reason? What would they be hiding? Dirt on Hillary?

    Oh and remember those Russian sanctions Trump signed into law proving he's anti-Russia in the end after all? Yeah, it's 2 weeks past a Senate-imposed deadline and Trump evidently has no intention of actually sanctioning Russia, even after signing them into law.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/09/28/...rmissible-yet/


    Additionally some of the other information that's come out doesn't really support the "Trump is a Russian sockpuppet" narrative....especially how Russia was giving rhetorical support to Black Lives Matter (yes, THAT group).

    They seem less interested in playing partisan favorites than they are in simply fomenting internal chaos.

    Which...I could (and did) say two years ago, based on what I read from the Open Society Foundations leak.

    It pays dividends to actually read primary sources rather than someone else's opinion about someone else's opinion about a the actual news source.

  22. #5897
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Saying you're glad Trump won, because Hillary is skeevy is like saying you're glad you traded Irritable Bowel Syndrome for dick cancer.
    this is Murika, where the worst the GOVT has to offer went against the worst SOCIETY has to offer and 3rd parties STILL GOT NOWHERE. we had too many bush's & crooked clintons already in office, TODAY once again liberals PRETEND to care about
    war
    deficit
    yobs
    due process
    civil rights
    a democrat in office can wage war in more nations than a republican, can sign indefinite detention w/o trial into law and GET AWAY WITH IT ; republican? nope, courts stand up against them because republicans are blunt and say it like it is instead of sugar coating it for the sheep who swallow everything that comes out of the democrats .

  23. #5898
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    The Secretary of State called him a moron this week.
    Small correction, he called him a f*cking moron.

    As for Russia collusion, it's not really all that hidden even, if you are willing to look, starting with Manafort and his special black caviar friend and ending with Prince Dampnut explicitly admitting collusion.

  24. #5899
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Remember when Dan Quayle misspelled “potato”, and everyone was like “that’s a good enough reason for him not to be president”?

    We should be like that again.
    - Ben Grimes

  25. #5900
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Vertigo, DragonSand, Xeen
    Quote Originally Posted by jkcerda View Post
    this is Murika, where the worst the GOVT has to offer went against the worst SOCIETY has to offer and 3rd parties STILL GOT NOWHERE. we had too many bush's & crooked clintons already in office, TODAY once again liberals PRETEND to care about
    war
    deficit
    yobs
    due process
    civil rights
    a democrat in office can wage war in more nations than a republican, can sign indefinite detention w/o trial into law and GET AWAY WITH IT ; republican? nope, courts stand up against them because republicans are blunt and say it like it is instead of sugar coating it for the sheep who swallow everything that comes out of the democrats .
    Thank you.


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