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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    17 19.10%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    24 26.97%
  • 1st Term Impeachment/Assassination

    39 43.82%
  • 2nd Term Impeachment/Assassination

    0 0%
  • I don't know what's going on!

    9 10.11%
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Thread: ✮✮✮ !Trump Dump! ✮✮✮

  1. #6526
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    As one of my friends put it: The GOP is running a third-rate Sopranos knock-off protection racket: "That's a nice little health care program for children you have ... shame if something happened to it."

    Edit: And what does it say that even something like the Stormy Daniels story is getting buried in the mess? How dysfunctional does an administration have to be when the revelation that the Pres pursued a porn star for months just after his last son was born and during sex she spanked him with a copy of Forbes magazine with him & his kids on the cover and then she was paid to be silent by having money laundered to her through an illegal shell company, and that'll be lucky to be the fourth biggest story in the news this week after the government shutdown, "s**thole countries", & the false ballistic missile alert thing (just edging out the Pres's BS height and weight measurements)? That's. Messed. Up.

    Edit2: I had a friend share this, which sums up the typical tea bagger's position on the shutdown.
    Last edited by demagogue; 20th Jan 2018 at 01:07.

  2. #6527
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    I dunno, I think Stormy is a non-story. Titillating but not interesting or revealing.

  3. #6528
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Wait, was that the storm Goldmoon was talking about?

    This would be a huge scandal for any other president, though.
    Last edited by Starker; 20th Jan 2018 at 03:29.

  4. #6529
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    That was kind of my point. Of course it's pure gossip magazine trash as a story, but it would have been inconceivable and earth shattering for any other president, and for this one it's already par for the course, or at worst a double-bogey.

  5. #6530
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    It wasn't earth shattering for Bill Clinton.

  6. #6531
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Huh? Bill Clinton was actually impeached for it. Like the House vote literally legally impeached him and only the Senate held off kicking him from office. (And that was for arguably a smaller thing than this.)

    Edit: Also my friend working at the White House said the day the Lewinsky story broke, they had a meter at the front, like a kind of Richter scale of political shake ups of the day that would usually say 3.1 or 4.4, and on that day it said "Mt. Vesuvius", and the issue rocked headlines for it seemed like 9 months straight. Looks like it meets the definition of earth shattering to me.

  7. #6532
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Location, Location
    Moreover it's a thing that will forever hang over the head of Bill Clinton and really prevent him from having any respected place in politics ever again. Everybody knows him as the president who had sex with an intern while in office. It permanently destroyed his credibility.

  8. #6533
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Well, it's not a real scandal anyway. It's not like he was wearing a tan suit or ordered Dijon mustard.

  9. #6534
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    If you were referring to the media coverage when you said 'earth shattering', then I agree.

    I was thinking more in terms of the consequences. He weathered allegations ranging from infidelity to sexual assault and even rape all through his campaign and two terms, and it never hurt him politically.

    The impeachment itself was pure political theater and the whole Democratic party and majority of the country supported him through that. His approval rating remained around 60% through the impeachment and the rest of his term. And then he remained the de facto leader of the Democratic party for the next 8 years after he left office, right up until Obama won. He's still respected within the Democratic party, he still campaigns for Democratic candidates and gives them a bump. He still makes millions a year giving speeches at political and business events.

  10. #6535
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Ah yeah, as the joke used to go, his "Lewinsky strategy" was successful. That was around the period when politicians learned they could weather anything if they just kept denying or dismissing something long enough, and that's probably a feature of presidential politics here to say now... although it does make it odd that people like Anthony Wiener, Blagovich, et al, fell, but I guess the principle doesn't apply to lesser positions, they were a bit too early in the curve, and they were Dems not Reps.

  11. #6536
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    The real scandal about Stormy is that she was paid off as part of Trump's election campaign, using a shadow company to hide the source. This makes it a violation of election finance rules and just one more in a long list of impeachable offenses the GOP is suddenly blind to.

  12. #6537
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    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    . . . He still makes millions a year giving speeches at political and business events.
    And he and Bush make quite a good double act - at least they made me laugh.

  13. #6538
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2000
    Location: Portreath Cornwall UK
    Quote Originally Posted by Trance View Post
    #shitholethread
    This is the shit hole thread...
    http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthrea...ight=Shit+list

  14. #6539
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Location, Location


    EDIT: I just realized the context for this tweet didn't carry over from where I got it. This is one of the tweets Trump sent out during the last government shutdown, in the Obama era. He did a lot of interview segments saying that the primary place to put the blame for a government shutdown is the president. Let's see how well he sticks to that rhetoric now.
    Last edited by Trance; 20th Jan 2018 at 18:44.

  15. #6540
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Washington DC
    Quote Originally Posted by Trance View Post
    Let's see how well he sticks to that rhetoric now.
    Of course he's going to directly contradict it, the media will bring up the inconsistency, the apologists will find some reason to insist that this time is different, and it'll be another entry for the giant heap of hypocritical statements from the narcissist-in-chief.

  16. #6541
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    I halfway believe that he looks up old Tweets to purposefully contradict them, but in the end I don't know if he has the focus for that kind of homework.

  17. #6542
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2000
    Location: Portreath Cornwall UK
    Now we will find out how good a negotiator PT really is. Any predictions as to how long the US government will be hamstrung? Iíll go 15 days.

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