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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    20 18.87%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    29 27.36%
  • 1st Term Impeachment/Assassination

    44 41.51%
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    2 1.89%
  • I don't know what's going on!

    11 10.38%
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  1. #9076
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    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Location, Location

  2. #9077
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Who knew making tax cuts pay for themselves could be so difficult:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/16/trum...-promises.html

    In June, six months after the tax cut passed, Cohn’s successor, Larry Kudlow, claimed the deficit “is coming down rapidly” due to economic growth. Now, the government Trump oversees has demonstrated the opposite.

    Even as growth has accelerated, the Treasury reported that the 2018 deficit swelled to $779 billion. That level, the highest in six years, marks a 17 percent increase over 2017.

    Federal spending as a share of the economy fell. But revenue fell even more, with corporate tax receipts plummeting 31 percent. The Congressional Budget Office forecasts deficits hitting $981 billion in 2019 and exceeding $1 trillion every year after that.

  3. #9078
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    I'm not ready to let the weird way Cherokee spokespeople responded to Warren go yet. I too have Cherokee in my lineage. Oops I claimed it. Time to berate me for being proud of it. I mean, what the hell? Are Cherokees so afraid folks will be getting DNA tests and trying to claim some casino money? And JUST the Dawes roll? What about those who stayed in the Smokies and resisted the move? They don't count? Do my wife's people, the Longs, not count then? None of us are claiming Cherokee citizenship. Elizabeth wasn't either. She was only recounting the history of her family which is the history of the US. Can we not do that? Whether the Cherokee like it or not many of us carry their blood and, though we have not suffered, our ancestors certainly did. They were listed as "non white" on census roles and I'm certain they were treated like it in those times. Hell, I suffer every spring with actinic prurigo, because of that blood and I can't claim it? What a dick move. None of us want to appropriate their heritage and culture. We are just proud of our own lineage. Or were.

  4. #9079
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Lord Dampnut calls the woman who reminds him of his daughter a horseface and admits he's a total con. Seems like the very stable genius didn't quite think this one through.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...13711295930368

    "Federal Judge throws out Stormy Danials lawsuit versus Trump. Trump is entitled to full legal fees." @FoxNews Great, now I can go after Horseface and her 3rd rate lawyer in the Great State of Texas. She will confirm the letter she signed! She knows nothing about me, a total con!
    And Stormy Daniels responds:

    https://twitter.com/StormyDaniels/st...24021855637505

    Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present your president. In addition to his...umm...shortcomings, he has demonstrated his incompetence, hatred of women and lack of self control on Twitter AGAIN! And perhaps a penchant for bestiality. Game on, Tiny.
    A reminder that this is not a joke or a parody. This is the actual current state of US politics. The president is slinging insults at his former paramour while she mocks his penis size.


    The lawsuit Lord Dampnut is talking about is a defamation suit, something that's notoriously difficult to win in the US:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...010519119.html

    A judge in the US has rejected a defamation lawsuit brought by adult film star Stormy Daniels against President Donald Trump, and ordered her to pay his legal fees.

    Judge S James Otero dismissed the suit by Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, filed earlier this year after Trump claimed on Twitter she had invented threats to silence her over an alleged sexual encounter between the two more than a decade ago. She said Trump's tweets made her look like a liar.

    Daniels still has a separate lawsuit linked to $130,000 she was allegedly paid by Trump's lawyer shortly before the November 2016 presidential election to keep quiet about the affair.

    In the defamation case, the judge ruled Trump's tweet was the kind of "rhetorical hyperbole" normally associated with politics and public discourse in the United States, and protected under the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

    Daniels' lawyer has said he will appeal the decision.

  5. #9080
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    John F. Kennedy slept with Marilyn Monroe.

    Bill Clinton slept with a White House intern.

    Donald Trump slept with a porn starlet who he now refers to as "horseface."

    I can't help but think our standards are sliding.

  6. #9081
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2005
    Location: Not Kansas
    Renz, that kind of thing has been going on a lot longer than since JFK. Hell, even George Washington was rumored to have had a mistress. But I agree that our standards have been sliding; well, at least our government's standards have been, ever since January 2017. Used to be that the (unspoken?) requirements for a POTUS were that he/she possess intelligence, dignity, diplomacy, integrity, tact, compassion, and class. The current administration doesn't even know the meaning of those words. *smh*

    http://bigfrog104.com/presidential-e...rital-affairs/

    https://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/25/u...lk-pillow.html

  7. #9082
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    The media just have a particular hatred for Trump, that's all.

    It is funny though, when you put the Stormy Daniel's stuff in context of the behavior of a good percentage of past US Presidents and rulers from history. And yet this time we're supposed to hold it up as any worse and treat it differently? Yeah no. Not happening. I suspect many people secretly high five'd JFK over Marilyn Monroe at the time. She was the woman most sought after. Be like sleeping with Pamela Anderson in the 90s.

    Hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned though as they say. So he better look out.

  8. #9083
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    The media just have a particular hatred for Trump, that's all.
    That's ridiculous, and you either know it, or should know it. In short, you refuse to see the obvious. The media doesn't force Trump to say, tweet, and do. (And the media that most influences him is his fawning supporters at Fox.) The norms of behavior and decency he's broken are legion. (Having had a mistress? Not unusual. Calling her juvenile names in public? Not normal. Paying her off with campaign money and deliberately keeping it off the books? Criminal.) And that's just like Tuesday. The day before he's helping the Saudis cover up the murder of a journalist for the express and stated reason of monetary gain, some of which is going directly to his pocket. Can we fuckin' say emoluments yet? You want to talk about norms? Carter sold his peanut farm. That's a norm. (Nevermind the constitutional requirement.)

  9. #9084
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Yeah, did any US president behave this way? Did Clinton ever try to insult and demean Lewinsky like this? I don't think anyone is really fazed about Lord Dampnut having an affair with a porn actress. It's more that he seems to entirely redefine the word presidential.

  10. #9085
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Fair enough. I take that back. I fully admit that the guys a complete moron. All respect I had for him (which was nearly nil) went out the window after he said that him and Kim Jong Un were in love. Since then he's just been spouting complete crap. To which many will say that he's been saying complete crap all along, but he was at least holding back to an extent. Now he's just going full Trump without filter.

  11. #9086
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2005
    Location: Not Kansas
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    Now he's just going full Trump without filter.
    Omg, I love that. I'm stealing it. Lmao.

  12. #9087
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    I realized he reached a new stage of media intolerance when the news came down that even Fox news stopped bothering to broadcast his rallies fullstop (they used to broadcast the full rallies, then gradually cut them minute by minute down to nothing). He's become an isolated pariah windbag increasingly without a platform on which to spew. I guess it's happening all on social media now, Twitter and FB, but that seems to have really derailed from reality, and there's no doubt a sizable bulk of that is foreign agiprop anyway.

  13. #9088
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    The responses of "Well I'm president your not" are most worrying. Like it's some prize and he does not truly comprehend what he has + the responsibility and good leadership that is expected to come with it. I hope this is a lesson for history in who not to vote for. That said he looked like the lesser of 2 evils during the election to many, but meh. About the only good he's done is for the economy. Trade wars aren't necessarily a bad thing, as free trade can often lead to the deaths of industries in some countries. So instead raising tariffs gives some security to those industries most vulnerable to cheap imports.

    For example the car manufacturing industry over here in Australia died largely due to it.

  14. #9089
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Um... Fox News isn't cutting down on showing his rallies because they can't tolerate him now. They are only doing it because of ratings. I guess even Lord Dampnut's supporters get bored watching the same show for two years in a row.

  15. #9090
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Semantics, a media company cannot tolerate doing something that's losing it money; ideology goes out the window. I meant it in that sense, not the sense where their faces are supposed to have looks of disgust on them or whatever. But it gets bad ratings because he's overexposed, there's rah rah fatigue and an uncomfortable degree of L'Embarras des richesses, which is another kind of intolerance one might argue, or use another word for it, whatever; I have no investment in that specific term.

  16. #9091
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Does it really matter if he's front and center in their regular shows anyway?

  17. #9092
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    The Republicans have found the real culprit of the budget deficit increase:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ising-deficits

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell blamed rising federal deficits and debt on a bipartisan unwillingness to contain spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, and said he sees little chance of a major deficit reduction deal while Republicans control Congress and the White House.

    “It’s disappointing, but it’s not a Republican problem,” McConnell said Tuesday in an interview with Bloomberg News when asked about the rising deficits and debt. “It’s a bipartisan problem: unwillingness to address the real drivers of the debt by doing anything to adjust those programs to the demographics of America in the future.”

    McConnell’s remarks came a day after the Treasury Department said the U.S. budget deficit grew to $779 billion in Donald Trump’s first full fiscal year as president, the result of the GOP’s tax cuts, bipartisan spending increases and rising interest payments on the national debt. That’s a 77 percent increase from the $439 billion deficit in fiscal 2015, when McConnell became majority leader.
    If only there wasn't Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, the US could afford all those tax cuts for the rich.
    Last edited by Starker; 18th Oct 2018 at 17:44.

  18. #9093
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    I blame Jesus - "For there will never cease to be poor in the land; that is why I am commanding you to open wide your hand to your brother and to the poor and needy in your land."

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