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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    13 18.06%
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    17 23.61%
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    35 48.61%
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    0 0%
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    7 9.72%
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  1. #126
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    I am so, so sick of this false left/right dichotomy we've got going on in our politics these days. I mean what does the so-called right have to be angry about?

    A band-aid on our sucking chest wound of a healthcare system that doesn't fix much of anything? An idea fielded by the Heritage foundation, found to work fairly decently enough under Romney's initiative in Massachusetts, and implemented across the country by a Democrat? Oh, the audacity of the quote unquote Left, taking an idea from the quote unquote Right, slapping their name on it, and running with it. But oh, we can't defend it now. Can't point fingers and say "hey, that was our idea." No, we have to vote to repeal it 57 times in congress, wasting everyone's time because there's no way in hell we'll be able to do so, and scream about Communism for 7 years.

    And what about the JUDICIAL ACTIVISM that's led us to FREE REIGN HOMO-LOVE! All those gay men and women, who were already living together before doing gay men and women things, can now get a certificate and a tax break like everyone else! OH, THE HUMANITY! THE SANCTITY OF OUR SECULAR SYSTEM OF MARRIAGE! Now let's watch as a woman who has no concept of the separation of church and state uses her personally held beliefs to undermine the duties of her elected government position. SHE IS A HERO FOR STANDING UP FOR THESE THINGS THAT MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT OTHERWISE HAVE NO EFFECT ON MY LIFE!

    Is it the racial strife that's been boiling over recently? I have to admit that the BLM hasn't held themselves up to be an exemplary example of a well done protest movement. That's what happens when you don't have a figurehead, and you allow any dipshit off the street to use your name to do whatever BS they feel like doing at the time. But at the same time, the usual talking heads calling them a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION is nothing but equally stupid hyperbole applied from the opposite direction.

    And what's it all over? The crap those blacks get up to? I'll admit, Michael Brown's shooting was probably justifiable. Problem was, it happened in a place where racial tension was already at an all time time. Tamir Rice. Hell, there was absolutely no excuse for defending that. Or that guy who was hassled in New York over selling cigarettes on the street, flinched at the wrong time, and was suffocated to death under the ensuing 5-cop pile up. And that guy who's neck mysteriously snapped in the back of a paddy wagon? That just doesn't happen.

    Damn cell phones and surveillance cameras, showing us the injustices that the black community faces every day. On that note, I don't think cops are bad people. I'd say the vast majority of them are good doing a hard, thankless job. Nor do I think every arrest of a black person is some unjustified example of police brutality. The problem is, racism hasn't quite gone away here in the US. Yes, it's better, but we don't yet inhabit that truly egalitarian society we imagined ourselves to be living in. We've been ignoring some uncomfortable truths to maintain a comfortable lie, and now it's all exploding in our faces. Yes, some people do act the victim of their own idiocy. Some do play that fabled Race Card for their own selfish benefit. But where there's smoke, there's fire. We've looked the other way, telling ourselves its out, and now it's burning in our back yards.

    There's more I could go on about. Taxes, our mewling idiot college studends who demand safe spaces, and freedom from contrary thought, the so-call extreme leftist views of Obama and, hell, Bill Clinton of all people, all kinds of stuff. But hey, I'm out of time. Gotta head out. I'll leave with this:

    This isn't a left/right issue. The issue is that we, as a nation, have been far too comfortable for far too long. We've ignored the world, thinking its something that happens to other people, while taking from it to fuel our own lifestyles. And now? Oh, it's encroaching. It's right on our doorsteps. We, as a nation, have to face the reality of the world we've helped creat. Unlike our grandfathers, who's glories and good works we've been riding on for the last 40 odd years, we're not doing a good job availing ourselves in these tough times.

    We've become a nation of whiny children.

  2. #127
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    Whao ...steady on Rez.

    Problem is we (as Americans) tend to agree on about 7/10 things. Reagan knew this and pretty much governed in that way. Trouble is now we haven't had a president since who understood this.

  3. #128
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    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: The Land of Make Believe
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyFoxx View Post
    ohoo's so cute and clueless...alt nicking and all.
    Sorry, I can't make head or tail of this.

    Did you get lost on the way to a lynching or something?

  4. #129
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    Ohoo's so cute and clueless. Carry on mate. Your superiority is amazing.

  5. #130
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    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyFoxx View Post
    Whao ...steady on Rez.

    Problem is we (as Americans) tend to agree on about 7/10 things. Reagan knew this and pretty much governed in that way. Trouble is now we haven't had a president since who understood this.
    Sorry. When it comes to all the arguing I've done in opposition of the tilting at the windmills of imagined slights and scary scarecrows that make up American politics these days, I've become a little touchy.

    I long for the days when our politicians were, at worst, idiot assholes, rather than the dangerous rabble rousing demagogues they've become.

  6. #131
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    It's weird that these days Reagan is basically a moderate. He wasn't elected to be.

    The problem with political rhetorical questions is that you might find out that the other side's answers are way better than yours. Look, the right-wing politicians and media have been telling their constituents to be angry for decades. The reasons range from ridiculous to hypocritical. The latter is perhaps more interesting; there's practically a cottage industry of blaming Democrats for what Republicans do (one widespread ludicrous example is the insistence that Republican refusal to compromise is Obama's fault). The only mystery is why they ever thought they could contain it. And the answer is probably that they didn't think about it much at all.

  7. #132
    I'm saying this with 0 statistical backup, but in my experience being angry and being uneducated have always gone somewhat hand in hand (and as polls have consistently shown, across the board, being uneducated and supporting Trump go hand in hand). What Trump, in particular, is doing is preying on people who, if they knew better, would realize that he is a significant part of the problem, and that he and men like him have done more to fuck them than any of the harmless things that he and the GOP have convinced them to fear.

  8. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Sorry. When it comes to all the arguing I've done in opposition of the tilting at the windmills of imagined slights and scary scarecrows that make up American politics these days, I've become a little touchy.

    I long for the days when our politicians were, at worst, idiot assholes, rather than the dangerous rabble rousing demagogues they've become.
    So you're old like me then... can't blame you...want to punch the lot of them in the face.

  9. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrian View Post
    It's weird that these days Reagan is basically a moderate. He wasn't elected to be.

    The problem with political rhetorical questions is that you might find out that the other side's answers are way better than yours. Look, the right-wing politicians and media have been telling their constituents to be angry for decades. The reasons range from ridiculous to hypocritical. The latter is perhaps more interesting; there's practically a cottage industry of blaming Democrats for what Republicans do (one widespread ludicrous example is the insistence that Republican refusal to compromise is Obama's fault). The only mystery is why they ever thought they could contain it. And the answer is probably that they didn't think about it much at all.
    Reagan would probably be considered dangerously leftist in today's political environment. He did help spearhead the push on assault weapons ban and criminal background checks, both implemented under H.W Bush, which are now massive political wedge issues considered primarily Democrat in design.

    A good example of that would be Obama's most recent executive order which did nothing but strengthen these very same laws. Back in the 80's, these laws made sense, and had a good amount of populist support. These days? They're the dangerous overreach of an out of control president who wants to abuse his executive powers to piss all over the constitution, denying we free people our God Given Rights.

    This is entirely the fault of the Republicans, who, from Gingrich on, have recently discovered the power of fiery rhetoric. They scream about how Obama is a monster, make a big deal out of Jade Helm, Planned Parenthood, welfare, ISIS and Iran to bolster their standing among the fringes of their base, then turn around and vote middle-right on these very same issues. Now they're suddenly surprised to the point of being blinkered to see that the very people they were courting politically see them as nothing more than "RINOs" offering them empty promises. They've taken their rhetoric to heart, have been disappointed by their relatively weak stances, and are flocking to people like Trump and Cruz, who will talk the talk and walk the walk, so to speak.

    The Republicans are now reaping what they've sown. The party has been thrust into chaos, with the Freedom Caucus raising hell on one end, Cruz and his ilk, generally considered unpopular, but hold a lot of sway, are stirring things up on the other, while the old guard conservatives such as McCain and Boehner are seen as leftist apologists, and are on their way out, if not out already.

    The only one issue they can agree on is that whatever the Democrats do, they should do the complete opposite, which has lead us to a nearly nonfunctional government.

  10. #135
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    Registered: Feb 2002
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobodyinparticular View Post
    No surprises since the MSM have kept it on the QT, but some far left activist brought a knife to one of Trump's rallies and tried to run on to the stage towards Trump before being brought down.
    I assume eveyone knows this now but there was no knife and he was no terrorist, just some Kenye asshole wannabe wanting to grab the mike. Not that I couldn't understand the thinking of those who might want to off Hitler-lite Trump who encourages violence and then when it happens lies about doing it as five or six clips of him roll of him doing exactly that. Like faetal said though, him dying would enflame the already boiling violent idiocy of his supporters. Let him live and prove exactly what he is as his supporters deny it and shift blame. Poison can come in a bottle labeled Coke but if enough people see its effects they won't drink it.

    And where do they get this ability to shift every bad thing a republican does and make it the fault of democrats? Fox News is part of it. Not only do they claim they are just entertainment when called on their lies but they foster a mistrust of actual news that tries not to be slanted. Fair and balanced my ass. Some of it is in the lies passed on facebook. I have seen elaborate fabrications and photoshops that fool the gullible into frothing hatred. There must be a republican lie factory there are so many. But I think the majority of the blame lies in talk radio. Who did Rush Limbaugh blame for Trumps incitement of violence at Trump rallies? Obama. I kid you not. He and Hannity spout more lies in 5 minutes than you will hear at the blarney stone all day. Now they are spawning local radio loonies to follow suit in the effort to raise the blood pressure of old racists and Christians who act less like Christians than the LIBERAL COMMIES they despise. Jesus would be shaking his head in shame at them seeking to pad the pockets of the rich and vilifying the poor who suffer under their policies and yet they have no ability to reason that out for themselves.

    Remember how they claimed the president wasn't born in the country and Trump led the birther movement? They don't. Rush blames that on Hillary! I shit you not. Every ludicrous obvious lie you can think of shoots out of them like Ex-Lax from an ass. No conscience whatsoever. The truth is a foreign language and you know how they despise foreigners. They are overloading Fact Check.org and Snopes with BS. Talk radio is a cancer on the nation. It is turning people into rage filled idiots.

  11. #136
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    Location: Qantas
    You guys are now foaming at the mouth as badly as the angry Trump supporters.

  12. #137
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    Nah. Just telling the truth. I promise not to punch you for being a Ditto head. I will tell you that you are surrendering your power to reason to an obvious idiot though.

  13. #138
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    oh...somebody's seriously being told what's on talk radio instead of actually listening. It's OK though...we're used to it. Go ahead and put up your wall of text. I'm just an idiot. But for the record...Trump can go f himself.

  14. #139
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    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    I listen almost every single day for hours. I drive all day. Some days the lies make me so sad for humanity that I feel sick and have to just listen to rock until I feel better. Got any other unsubstantiated things to say?

  15. #140
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Tocky View Post
    Got any other unsubstantiated things to say?
    Of course they do. Jon Stewart called it bullshit mountain, but it's more like a bullshit river that never runs dry.

  16. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrian View Post
    Of course they do. Jon Stewart called it bullshit mountain, but it's more like a bullshit river that never runs dry.
    Well fuck my appetite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tocky
    Remember how they claimed the president wasn't born in the country and Trump led the birther movement? They don't. Rush blames that on Hillary! I shit you not.
    To be fair, Hillary did play that card back during the 2008 elections.

  17. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyFoxx View Post
    I'm just an idiot.
    Among the lies and bullshit that flows like lava from a conservative volcano, there is always a grain of truth.

  18. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tocky View Post
    I listen almost every single day for hours. I drive all day. Some days the lies make me so sad for humanity that I feel sick and have to just listen to rock until I feel better. Got any other unsubstantiated things to say?
    err turn off the damn radio?

  19. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post



    To be fair, Hillary did play that card back during the 2008 elections.
    That would be more than fair. It is one thing to say she brought it up and quite another to accuse her of the birther movement. That was Trump pandering to conspiracy nuts and racists. I would consider any valid link to Hillary. To just accuse her of what he continued past the birth certificate proof is wrong.

    And as far as just not listening to talk radio, I can't. I have to know where the hate is being manufactured. It's not all lies. Sometimes it's just misleading info. Sometimes they even hit on a valid point but rather than examine facts about it make baseless suppositions that go far afield of truth. I want to know how they do it not to copy it but to counter it.

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  21. #146
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    Gotta admit, that's pretty funny.

  22. #147
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    I have to agree!...

    This was released earlier today on Instagram by Donald Trump.

    From a non-partisan perspective, that is an absolutely brilliant and effective campaign ad...Expect it to go massively viral.

  23. #148
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    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Does anyone know the political affiliations of the Economist Intelligence Unit? This report states that "Donald Trump winning the US presidency is considered one of the top 10 risks facing the world, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit."

    Strange as it may seem, the "rising threat of jihadi terrorism destabilising the global economy" shares the same risk.

    I must say that I think it's very unfair of the BBC to apparently be unable to ever find a decent photo of Trump.

  24. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tocky View Post
    And as far as just not listening to talk radio, I can't. I have to know where the hate is being manufactured. It's not all lies. Sometimes it's just misleading info. Sometimes they even hit on a valid point but rather than examine facts about it make baseless suppositions that go far afield of truth. I want to know how they do it not to copy it but to counter it.
    I used to listen to talk radio all day in the 1990s, including Rush and Pacifica radio and a local NPR show called The Connection. That pretty much covered the ends of the spectrum. I liked the diversity of opinion and you would hear news stories on Rush or Pacifica that wouldn't make it through the mainstream filter of traditional news sources. But now the internet gives me all the diversity I want and I don't think I could stand to listen to Rush anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by nickie View Post
    Does anyone know the political affiliations of the Economist Intelligence Unit? This report states that "Donald Trump winning the US presidency is considered one of the top 10 risks facing the world, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit."
    I would describe The Economist as center-right and very pro-globalization.

  25. #150
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    Location: Wales
    Is that US center-right, heywood?

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