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Thread: Battle of the Terrible Treks

  1. #1
    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane

    Battle of the Terrible Treks

    In this corner, an STD:



    And in the opposing corner, ham-fisted Trek spoof The Orville:



    Looks like they're both going to suck.
    Last edited by ZylonBane; 12th Nov 2017 at 12:16. Reason: Reasons no longer apply

  2. #2
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Eh. I'm not at all impressed with that trailer, but I'm still willing to give Discovery a chance, on the slim chance that maybe, hopefully, possibly, it'll turn out better than what we've been shown here.

  3. #3
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Hasn't Star Trek always been batting about .500?
    (That's half good, half bad for you un-Americans.
    Not actually bad for baseball; debateably bad for TV & movies.)
    Even the good series have their share of flotsam.
    Then again even the bad series have interesting ideas.
    Lots of series also start off weak and get better after a season or two.
    So I wouldn't write it off just yet.

  4. #4
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    I wasn't impressed at all by the ST trailer. Looked like one of those fan made movies TBH.

    The Orville one looked half decent.

    My issue with this one (the ST trailer) is that you see several alien races in there that were never in the other shows, which in itself is a massive plot hole, and it doesn't feel very "Treky" other than the bit of music at the end. Enterprise when that was on, at least tried to fit within the established time line with it's plot.

    So if this is set 10 years before the original ST, that would put it around the same time period as Enterprise wouldn't it?

  5. #5
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    Agree with ZB and was just talking about this the other day - they both look guff.

    I'd really like some good sci-fi about now too.

  6. #6
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    You've got The Expanse S2, if that's what you're hankering for.

    As for the Treks: well, sigh. Let's see if Discovery is more than just lens flare and CGI. Michelle Yeoh as captain means it may have its heart in the right place.

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Location, Location
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    So if this is set 10 years before the original ST, that would put it around the same time period as Enterprise wouldn't it?
    Enterprise was about a century before TOS.

    Nobody in Hollywood knows how to do Star Trek anymore, nor do they care. JJ Abrams is making money for them now, and that's the style they're going to ape. We will not see our Star Trek come out of Hollywood ever again.

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    just coming in here to say "you know what, star trek is pretty arse-wang, get over it"

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    haha zylonbane beat you to the punch

    oh wait you actually care about star trek

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    last night i dreamt i wa ivenka trumps main squeeze, and i woke up really frighteneed

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    25 whores in the room nextdoor

  12. #12
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    And I need more.

  13. #13
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    MOAR HORS!

  14. #14
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    In the heat of the night, in the heat of the day

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2005
    Location: swimming in pickled herring
    Quote Originally Posted by ZylonBane View Post
    In this corner, an STD:
    This is terrible news! At 8:00pm I have always been able to trust CBS to act as my electronic babysitter for my 80 year old infant. She loves all the (seemingly endless) CSI shows, she's a bit bloodthirsty that way. Sci-Fi, however, is not in her wheelhouse at all. What is this CBS All Access that you speak of in strange whispers, brother? I'm hoping that it means it will not be a part of their broadcast/basic cable line-up. The Little Monster does not like change!

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Washington DC
    Quote Originally Posted by Trance View Post
    Nobody in Hollywood knows how to do Star Trek anymore, nor do they care. JJ Abrams is making money for them now, and that's the style they're going to ape. We will not see our Star Trek come out of Hollywood ever again.
    I never saw Enterprise, but wasn't that panned as 'not very Trek-like' too? Seems like Hollywood hasn't been able to do Trek in close to two decades. But Sulphur is right, there is The Expanse for decent sci-fi, although it's not quite the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by montag View Post
    This is terrible news! At 8:00pm I have always been able to trust CBS to act as my electronic babysitter for my 80 year old infant. She loves all the (seemingly endless) CSI shows, she's a bit bloodthirsty that way. Sci-Fi, however, is not in her wheelhouse at all. What is this CBS All Access that you speak of in strange whispers, brother? I'm hoping that it means it will not be a part of their broadcast/basic cable line-up. The Little Monster does not like change!
    Somehow PigLick's/SubJeff's random Sisters of Mercy interjection makes more sense than whatever this is.

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    Oh it wasnt random

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: 210x200x64
    Step one, let series run its course. Step two, turn on Netflix in five years and then decide. Worked for Enterprise.

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Enterprise was ok. Got better as it went along. Had some great alternate reality episodes.

  20. #20
    Southquarter.com/fms
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Akkala Highlands
    At least we still have this:

    http://www.startrekcontinues.com/

  21. #21
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Until Paramount sues them like they sued the other fan ST show.

  22. #22
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Iacon
    The discovery trailer doesn't really tell us much of what to expect, other than the show's aesthetics. Which were obviously going to be neither like TOS, nor like 90s-era Trek.

    I'm cautiously hopeful anyway. James Frain will make a great Sarek, I think. Klingons look bizarre but, eh, they've already had one massive resdesign in trek history and their TNG look is a bit dated now.

    altho: that's not the Discovery itself we see in the trailer. Why make a big deal of showing the Not-Discovery? I wonder if it will be wrecked early on for a big shocking moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    My issue with this one (the ST trailer) is that you see several alien races in there that were never in the other shows, which in itself is a massive plot hole,?
    Why? Galaxy's a big place.

  23. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by ZylonBane View Post
    In this corner, an STD:


    Looks like they're both going to suck.

    Since when has anything Seth McFarlane made been good for anything other than watching for easy laughs? Not the kind where you're laughing because it's funny, the kind where you're laughing because you're so high that any random thing makes you giggle.

    And am I the only one who thinks that the first trailer looks more like a Mass Effect trailer than a Star Trek one?

  24. #24
    Southquarter.com/fms
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Akkala Highlands
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    Until Paramount sues them like they sued the other fan ST show.
    I think it would have happened by now, they've been at it since 2013. They're wrapping up their final 3 episodes, so nothing will likely happen at this point.

  25. #25
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Washington DC
    IIRC the other Star Trek project (Axanar) got C&D'd because they were overtly trying to profit on the Star Trek IP, running a crowdfunding campaign that exceeded their realistic requirements and using it to kickstart their development as a studio. Paramount seems okay with fan productions, just not exploiting their IP.

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