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Thread: I love Skyrim but good lord, could they milk it any more?

  1. #1
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    I love Skyrim but good lord, could they milk it any more?

    I have no shame in saying Skyrim is in my top 10 games of all time (yes, I am a horrible horrible heretic who likes it more than Morrowind), and I'm all for games having a long period of support. But, after watching the giant thud that was the Bethesda E3 2017 conference, I really can't shake the feeling that they are now just milking Skyrim for all it's worth. It's not that it's coming to another platform on principle that gives me this impression, but on the other hand, this game came out almost 6 years ago. How many people who would be interested in the game don't already own it? Not to mention the highly questionable Creators Club thing they have going on that they are going to have to fight an uphill battle convincing people it's not paid mods all over again.

    Skyrim is a great game but I really wish we could at least get a hint that they are doing something other than Fallout 4 VR and Skyrim ports.

    Edit: Now we have Skyrim Playstation VR. FFS.
    Last edited by Buccura; 12th Jun 2017 at 21:55.

  2. #2
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Lol, I came here to post the same thing.
    I'll just quote what I wrote in another forum:
    Yeah ... VR & paid mods. It's transparently trying to milk Skyrim (like the special edition) since they aren't on track with ES6. Skyrim is what, a 6 year old game now. Who tries to start milking a 6 year old game like it was released last week? Needless to say I'm not a fan of this move.

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    Registered: Sep 2005
    Location: Not Kansas
    What dema said.

  4. #4
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    To me it depends entirely on how they do it and how much they ask for it. From VR perspective it makes sense to test the waters to see to what extent traditional gaming experiences can be done in the new medium. By taking an existing game where the content already exists, they can do so in a relatively cost-effective way - because, let's face it, no big publisher would bring out new content as massive as Skyrim for VR.

    If they end up selling this at the same price and don't offer any discounts for people who already have the game, then they're idiots and deserve to fall flat on their faces. But if they can do this without a massive impact on new games (and, let's face it, the team needed for this would be much, much smaller than what you'd need for a full new game), I don't see the problem.

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    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Quote Originally Posted by Buccura View Post
    How many people who would be interested in the game don't already own it?
    Oh no, GOG.com just disappeared in a puff of logic!

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    Southquarter.com/fms
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Akkala Highlands
    Yeah, I thought the beginning of all this was last year when they released the Special Edition at full retail price.

  7. #7
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    ... which people who had the full game got for free.

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    Southquarter.com/fms
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Akkala Highlands
    I think that only applied to PC, right? Either way, for people who don't own it, $60 (PS4/Xbox One) is a lot for a 6 year old game.

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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    True - but this is one business practice I honestly don't have much of a problem with, because it's entirely transparent and up to the buyer. Do you think the game is worth the price? Buy it. Otherwise don't. There are lots of practices in this business that I consider dodgy, insidious and destructive, but this isn't one of them for me.

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    Southquarter.com/fms
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Akkala Highlands
    I don't think it's dishonest in any way, it's just going to the well a few too many times. I'd much rather have them work on new stuff than continue to re-imagine and enhance the existing stuff. It's as old as the first Dark Souls game, and we've had 3 full games plus expansions released by From since then.

    I do think it's amusing how from the start, the Switch has used Skyrim as a marquee game in it's ads and promos.

  11. #11
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Do you think the people who work on a port are the same people who'd be developing a whole new game? I'm sure there's some overlap, but for the most part it's highly unlikely that the development of a new game is held back much by either of the new versions of Skyrim.

  12. #12
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    Registered: Jun 2002
    Quote Originally Posted by Thirith View Post
    Do you think the people who work on a port are the same people who'd be developing a whole new game? I'm sure there's some overlap, but for the most part it's highly unlikely that the development of a new game is held back much by either of the new versions of Skyrim.
    and keep in mind, Beth doesn't usually announce a game till a few months before release. I've never understood all the secrecy, but that's how the do things.

  13. #13
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    Also keep in mind that Skyrim wasn't their last big budget release, Fallout 4 was. That's only 1.5 years old, so it's hardly as if they've been sitting on their hands since Skyrim's release.

  14. #14
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Ireland
    With all the porting, I wish they'd start making proper PC ports of their games.

    I'm looking at you, company who have had nothing but broken console UIs in every game they've made since Morrowind.

  15. #15
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    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    wow Fallout 4 is 18 months old? insert Neil Young song reference

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Buccura View Post
    I am a horrible horrible heretic who likes it more than Morrowind
    Speaking of Morrowind and milking TES, I have no idea how BethSoft hasn't done an official remake of it yet in their modern engines. If you could have all the great things from Morrowind (rpg systems, lore, story, characters, atmosphere, overall weirdness) brought into their more immersive sim-y engine (better combat, better stealth, radiant ai, being able to put a bucket on someone's head to block their LOS) it would be like printing money.

  17. #17
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    Registered: Mar 2014
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Moyer View Post
    Speaking of Morrowind and milking TES, I have no idea how BethSoft hasn't done an official remake of it yet in their modern engines. If you could have all the great things from Morrowind (rpg systems, lore, story, characters, atmosphere, overall weirdness) brought into their more immersive sim-y engine (better combat, better stealth, radiant ai, being able to put a bucket on someone's head to block their LOS) it would be like printing money.
    The better stealth alone makes me all for this, as Morrowind stealth system is kind of crap imo, making playing a stealth character just not fun for me compared to Oblivion and Skyrim. The combat I don't mind though as much as other people, funny enough, though the accurate attack mod does make it more enjoyable.

    Maybe, if that Creation Guild thing does actually work and not turn out to be another attempt at paid mods but stuff actually worth paying for, they will give a team the budget to just do a full on remake of Morrowind in the Skyrim engine.

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    Registered: Aug 2012
    Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
    Plus it's not even just Bethesda milking it for all its worth, it's youtubers too. Some of them make more videos on Skyrim a game that's 6 years old opposed to Fallout 4 which only came out 2 years ago.
    I mean it's alright to love a game but to shove it down everyones throats is just so damn annoying!

  19. #19
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    I can understand that it might annoy you if a channel becomes All Skyrim All The Time, but YouTube videos generally being something that you can choose not to watch, I don't quite see how anyone is shoving anything down your throat.

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    Location: Landahn
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