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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor View Post
    I'm not following this garbage as much as you guys, but I heard that when some wanker mowed down a bunch of people and managed to kill 1 of them as well, it got me curious: were they there because of political activism...
    Yeah. A protestor deliberately rammed his car into a group of counter-protestors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thor View Post
    If it's just political activists, then okay, whatever. A stupid cause to potentially give your life for, but that's just me.
    The murder of peaceful protestors is not acceptable behavior. A protest is not supposed to be something one gives one's life for in the first place.

  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Well there is a 2nd axis in there, but it doesn't need to be addressed, since both parties are usually well entrenched in the libertarian side of that axis. We're a classical liberal country as a default.
    Of which axis? Definitely not the social axis. On the economic axis, you could argue that the New Democrats have made sure that all of the Democratic Presidential candidates since Bill Clinton have leaned toward the classically liberal. But there's always been a social democrat wing of the party. That wing of the party nearly won the nomination last year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thor View Post
    I'm not following this garbage as much as you guys, but I heard that when some wanker mowed down a bunch of people and managed to kill 1 of them as well, it got me curious: were they there because of political activism and stuff or were they just there randomly going to a store and not realizing there's a bunch of fuckboys playing civil war and killing each other? Anyone here knows about that? If it's just political activists, then okay, whatever. A stupid cause to potentially give your life for, but that's just me.
    Did you really mean to suggest that political activists are expendable, so if they get murdered, so what?

  3. #103
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    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    On one hand I can see why the taking down of the statue pissed off a lot of people. Many people hate the growing political correctness going on in recent years. HOWEVER, the massing of the neo-nazi groups, racists etc shouting their words of hate, culminating in what happened is not ok, and will never be ok. People like that need to be universally stood against and be shown that they are not welcome anywhere.

    Trump not saying anything for as long as he did, shows (to me) which side he was on, and that's really shameful. To go from Obama to that is just meh.

  4. #104
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    Location: Wales
    Apparently Obama's tweet in response, quoting Mandela, is the 'most liked tweet ever'.

    My understanding is that there was general agreement/consultation about taking down the statue. My understanding is that Lee's descendants think statues/memorials of him would be more appropriately sited in museums.

    I do not understand and cannot comprehend how or why one colour or race or whatever thinks it's better than another. How did that happen?

  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    Of which axis? Definitely not the social axis.
    Yeah, you have a point. It's hard to say we're indifferent to proactive about social issues when you consider our history with blacks, minorities, gays, and etc.. I think we like to consider ourselves more on the libertarian side of the social axis, but we're really all over the map in that regard.

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickie View Post
    I do not understand and cannot comprehend how or why one colour or race or whatever thinks it's better than another. How did that happen?
    Combination of stupidity and people scrabbling for a reason to feel superior to others which doesn't involve them having to make any effort or achieve anything.

  7. #107
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    Registered: May 2004
    Rachel Maddow did a segment on the issue in her usual slow context-building style:



    I really dig these pieces where she starts with something seemingly unrelated and then ties it to current issues.

  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    Did you really mean to suggest that political activists are expendable, so if they get murdered, so what?
    No, I mean it's a stupid way to die. But with political protests (especially these ones that seem to be carried out by dimwits that don't know anything about anything) I think it's a given that you're potentially endangering yourself.
    Kinda like driving a car I guess (as in there's a chance you're gonna get dead, but probably with a bigger chance), but unnecessary. I guess my lack of respect for such things feeds into this view.

  9. #109
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    Just Governer Terry Mcauliffe staging a violent Klan event with his friend and former Obama Campaign\Occupy Wallstreet organizer Jason Kessler.

    Nothing to see here.

    Whoops, wasn't Mcauliffe the guy who got a 500k bribe from Hillary?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton...ife-1477266114

    Whoops, isn't he also friends with FBI director Andrew McCabe who helped with the above negotiation?

    Whoops, didn't the Senate just re-open an investigation into the DOJ's behavior:

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-.../477/text?r=48

    which could implicate McCabe and Mcauliffe?

    Nothing to see here.

    It's just a bunch of pro-Trump Nazi's arriving just as criminal charges are about to proceed...

    Maybe they can get Peter Kadzik as a lawyer again if this all turns out to be their fault...

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...re-just-one-pr

    Bonus, Imran Awan indictment:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...-4-counts.html
    Last edited by nbohr1more; 17th Aug 2017 at 18:32.

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickie View Post
    I do not understand and cannot comprehend how or why one colour or race or whatever thinks it's better than another. How did that happen?
    I dont know, but I am *positive* that the worlds biggest most powerful government in all of eternity being led from inception by WHITE people has NOTHING whatsoever to do with it. Yeah, nothing at all. Just a funny little koinkydink.

    This place slays me.

  11. #111
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    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    This, ladies and gentlemen, is how the conspiratorial mind works. He doesn't have any damning proof of anything, only claims, and uses a series of events, circumstantially related, that can be strung together to form the basis of any theory imaginable in lieu.

    And then GMD shows up.

    "They're all out to get you because they're all out to get you! OPEN YOUR EYES, SHEEPLE!"

  12. #112
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Chicago, IL
    Another White Nazi vehicle killing in Spain. Copycat of the Charlottesville attack perhaps?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...KCN1AX1W6?il=0

  13. #113
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Yeah, you have a point. It's hard to say we're indifferent to proactive about social issues when you consider our history with blacks, minorities, gays, and etc.. I think we like to consider ourselves more on the libertarian side of the social axis, but we're really all over the map in that regard.
    We've been debating the limits of freedom of speech and assembly as applied to hate groups, especially when they are intending to intimidate or hoping to incite a riot.
    But I was thinking more of the debates over sexual and gender freedom, abortion, gun rights, drug enforcement and legalization, tobacco, and even sugary drinks.
    I wish the country was more socially libertarian overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thor View Post
    No, I mean it's a stupid way to die. But with political protests (especially these ones that seem to be carried out by dimwits that don't know anything about anything) I think it's a given that you're potentially endangering yourself.
    Kinda like driving a car I guess (as in there's a chance you're gonna get dead, but probably with a bigger chance), but unnecessary. I guess my lack of respect for such things feeds into this view.
    You don't respect political activism? Geez...
    Anyway, you ought to be able go and protest (or counter-protest) without worrying about getting killed. That should be obvious.

  14. #114
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Vertigo, DragonSand, Xeen
    Renzatic.

    Aside from everything else going on here, could you or anyone for that matter, please describe your thoughts and feelings on the fact that America has been led by *white* people from the start. I mean with all of this concern over the various races, surely this cant sit right with you. Just want to hear...

    Go.

  15. #115
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    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    We've been debating the limits of freedom of speech and assembly as applied to hate groups, especially when they are intending to intimidate or hoping to incite a riot.
    But I was thinking more of the debates over sexual and gender freedom, abortion, gun rights, drug enforcement and legalization, tobacco, and even sugary drinks.
    I wish the country was more socially libertarian overall.
    Strangely enough, I still stand by the notion that the Neo-Nazis and Klan should be allowed to march and protest, provided they do so peacefully. Not because I think they have anything worthwhile to say, but because it's simply not a good idea to allow an ever changing, always malleable western style government to enshrine what constitutes hate speech into law. You have to think of the subject on a slippery slope. Do you really want to set precedence that would allow a group like, say, the Trump administration the means to declare any negative comments against the presidency a direct and actionable threat against the US government as a whole?

    There's a Popehat article (that might've been posted in this thread, I can't remember) that did a excellent job of explaining why we have to tolerate hate speech on the 1st Amendment level. I'll see if I can dig it up again.

    edit: HERE IT IS!

    Quote Originally Posted by Krush
    Another White Nazi vehicle killing in Spain. Copycat of the Charlottesville attack perhaps?
    No, that's not nearly as bad because they're all misunderstood Muslims. They're not as bad as white devil people.

    HURRR HURRR DURR DE DURR HURRR
    Last edited by Renzatic; 17th Aug 2017 at 19:16.

  16. #116
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Chicago, IL
    they're all misunderstood Muslims. They're not as bad as white devil people.
    You act as if that's a joke, but that does seem to be your actual views when boiled down.

  17. #117
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    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Have I ever once said we were being too hard on ISIS? Have I ever once tried to excuse a terrorist attack on here?

    I think the problem, Krush, is that you spend more time railing against the filthy scarecrow waving its broomstick arms about that you've labeled "The Liberal" in your head than you do arguing with anything I or anyone else here has actually said.
    Last edited by Renzatic; 17th Aug 2017 at 20:38.

  18. #118
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Oh this is rich.

  19. #119
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Vertigo, DragonSand, Xeen
    Ya know, if they get rid of Trump, then all the slimy freaks are gonna start comin' back out, thinking its OK to be gay and to let little boys go into our little daughters bathrooms. FREAKS. Please dont get rid of Trump PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We almost got this country on the right track to nail this shit down, dont do it NOW!!!

    Why cant we just have a normal country.



    All the while, everyone just mulls about blissfully ignorant to the WHITE SUPREMECY that *rules the world*. But lets micro manage some bullshit false flag events, and keep the division in progress.

  20. #120
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    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    You're kinda begging to be banned, aren't you?

  21. #121
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    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Stop shitting up the place, GMD. If you can't respond to people's requests for you to make sense with actual reasoned-out thought, take your tautologies to a place that hands out the circlejerks you're desperate for.

  22. #122
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    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    lets all calm down, lest I get riled up and feel the need to express my opinion

  23. #123
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    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Do it, Lick. Run wild.

  24. #124
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    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    A new poll by NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist says 62 percent of those polled said Confederate statues honoring leaders should remain....http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-cont...017.pdf#page=3

  25. #125
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    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Yeah, and some of them are kinda ticked off that their fight is being co-opted by the biggest assholes in the world.

    I can't wait until the Alt-Right marches on Washington, scheduled on the same day the Juggalos will be out doing their thing. That's gonna make for one interesting day.

    FAYGO AND SOIL!

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