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Thread: Route 91 Harvest Music Festival Shooting - Gun Control Thread

  1. #176
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    William's Bill might violate the 4th, considering that someone merely acting fishy might not constitute probable cause to confiscate their property.

    ...though if someone walks in to the local precinct with their dad's manifesto, outlining how he and his buddies intend on blowing up the government with their collection of guns. Yeah.

    I'll be the first to admit that our gun laws are all over the place, and at least half of them are kneejerk reactions to various tragic events, or the political fallout from them. If we want to get anywhere on the issue, the first thing we're gonna have to do is scrap all the bullshit laws that do nothing but randomly criminalize people for equally random reasons.

  2. #177
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    Politicians will NOT scrap laws , they simply don't know how to , plenty here propose things that go too far and are seemingly under the impression that WE are going to come to the table and "compromise" to their delight. Because they simply don't understand what compromise means , I prefer gridlock for that very reason , I am left supporting the NRA for the simple fact we have to sue just to keep our rights , things that I LEGALLY bought turned illegal and making me a criminal means I have no reason to come to the table

  3. #178
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    That gives you EVERY reason to come to the table. You might complain about nothing being done, but as long as you refuse to discuss the issue, well then hey, you've just created yourself a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Leveraging the NRA isn't even a good negotiating tactic anymore, considering they've gone batshit fuckity since around the start of the Obama administration.

    You want to get something done? You should get a bunch of relatively sane people together, and go to Washington about it. If they're pushing for federal gun standards, you have more leverage there than you do in California. Anything that's done there will automatically override the state, provided its passed.

    But on that same note, you can't do what you're accusing them of doing by listing out your demands, then complaining they're not compromising if they don't agree with them 100%. Accept the fact you won't get everything you want, but you will get some. Make sure the flip side of the argument comes out about the same. A good compromise leaves everyone a little angry.

  4. #179
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    ***** sits on booster chair***** on peaches. I'm at the table. What do you want and what do I get ?

  5. #180
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Hell if I know. This ain't my fight. My whole stance on the issue is "whatevs, brah."

  6. #181
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    Still love you

  7. #182
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    If that were true, my damn dinner would be on the table every night when I get home from work.

  8. #183
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    And you would have made me legal by now

  9. #184
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    You want another black eye? WHAR MUH FOOD!

  10. #185
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Social utility!
    If we restrict guns, who's going to shoot our red plastic cups to in time to the cup song?


  11. #186
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    God forbid people exercise their rights in ways we don't approve off

  12. #187
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    You could do the same thing with a tazer and someone who can scream real good.

  13. #188
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    See you Tonight

  14. #189
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Give it up, JK. You broke my heart. You'll have to find some way else to get your green card.

  15. #190
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    I was going to steal your ID and get some credit cards going. Cause what's the point of just breaking your heart?

  16. #191
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Would you shut up? I'm trying to watch a damn movie!

  17. #192
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    Ha.im a Concert, pissing off the wife on my phone

  18. #193
    So now this shit is getting weird. The lady at the concert claiming multiple shooters turned up dead.

    There's enough shit going on that something is up. The home being burgled, the unregistered security guard, other casino eyewitnesses reporting another person being chased through the Casino, the reconstructed room panorama not making sense, the girlfriend being immediately dismissed as relevant to the case....

    But hell. It doesn't fit into any theory I can come up with. I find the ISIS story highly unlikely, and usually in the FBI setups they give these guys fake weapons.

    The only weird thing I've been able to find is that one of the companies named by one conspiracy theoriest (a security manufacturer named months in advance by a 4chan poster claiming there would be a false flag shooting in Vegas) had a sudden jump in their share price several days before the shooting, that was likely representative of insider trading due to the lack of any analyst reports or news events that would drive such a sudden price jump. It still is an extreme long shot for those two to be connected.

  19. #194
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2005
    Location: Not Kansas
    @Tony: The woman in question, Kymberley Suchomel, was an epileptic, not in good health and passed away in her sleep. The multiple-gunmen theory was already debunked. Though I'm always up for listening to a good, solid conspiracy theory, in this case it seems all the facts revealed so far point to one gunman, Stephen Paddock, as the sole perpetrator. The 'multiple gunmen' turned out to be cops and security guards running around with their guns drawn trying to figure out what the hell was going on; if you've seen any videos you'll have noted that there was complete chaos at that concert after the shooting started. Sometimes a pencil is just a pencil.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/u...as-gunman.html

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...egas-massacre/

    http://www.snopes.com/2017/10/12/con...mass-shooting/

  20. #195
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Vertigo, DragonSand, Xeen
    Im trying to find out whether this video is real or was debunked, but I cant find any info!


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