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    Best Movies & TV Shows of 2017

    This year I lived closer to the cinema and the video-rental-place than I ever have before, and the result was me seeing more new movies than any year previously.

    Top 10 Movies

    10. Alien Covenant
    The first act manages to be as terrifying as the first two Alien movies, the middle sags a bit, but the terrifying ending makes up for it.

    9. Baby Driver
    Starts off with my favourite scene of the year, but then unfortunately itís all downhill from there. The middle parts are propped up by good performances by Hamm and Foxx. But the whole third act is a mess of unconvincing character-turns and a dour finale that lacks all the fun energy of the early parts of the movie.

    8. Unknown Soldier
    A really well-made Finnish war movie. Great character drama and great war scenes!

    7. Star Wars VIII: The Last Jedi
    Continues the Star Wars saga in a satisfying way, while also feeling like it stands on its own two legs more than Ep.7 did.

    6. Boyka: Undisputed
    BOYKA! BOYKA! BOYKA! Scott Adkins is back doing what he does best, roundhouse kicking dudes in the head and laying it on thick with the accent as he plays Russian prison fighter Boyka. A tight action movie with great fighting scenes.

    5. Wonder Woman
    A really good superhero movie. Itís tight plotting stands in stark contrast to most other DC movies recently.

    4. The Big Sick
    An autobiographical romantic comedy by Kumail Nanjiani and Emily V. Gordon. Features a surprisingly hilarious Ray Romano!

    3. Logan
    A dark superhero tale with great performances by Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart.

    2. La La Land
    The songs are good and the romance drama is good. So good it almost deserves a best picture Oscar!

    1. The Happiest Day In The Life Of Olli Mški
    A charming movie about a boxer, who has to box, but wants to love.




    Movie scene of the year:

    Baby Driverís opening scene. And I want to clarify that I'm not just picking this because AV Club also did. I had this picked as my scene of the year wayyyy before that OK.




    Honorable mentions (aka. #11-20):
    Get Out
    Blade Runner 2047
    Trainspotting 2
    Geraldís Game
    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
    Fate of the Furious
    Ghost In The Shell
    Okja
    Security
    John Wick 2


    Still to watch:
    The Florida Project, It, Atomic Blonde, Lady Bird




    Top 10 TV Shows

    10. Stranger Things - Season 2
    9. The Punisher
    8. The Defenders
    7. Rick & Morty - Season 3
    6. GLOW
    5. Better Call Saul - Season 3
    4. Game of Thrones - Season 7
    3. Fargo - Season 3
    2. Master of None - Season 2
    1. Twin Peaks: The Return


    TV scene of the year

    Gotta give it to Wally Brando! What a performance.





    So, what were YOUR favourites from this year?

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    Agreed on Twin Peaks. Easily my favorite show for this year.

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    I take this lack of Top Movies lists as everyone's silent agreement with my list. Thank you, I knew I was speaking for everyone here!

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    I agree with your TV list! Well, I haven't seen The Punisher or The Defenders, but after Legion it didn't seem like I needed to. If you haven't seen that, you should. It's exactly what you'd expect if the showrunner for Fargo went and made a Marvel show. There's also a bit of Wes Anderson to it in the stylistic choices and pastel tones that's fun if that floats your boat.

    Master of None S2 was definitely something I wasn't expecting - Aziz isn't a fantastic actor, and some of the writing choices for both S1 and especially part of S2 made the show a bit lumpen, but it has so much goddamn heart and warmth that it's hard not to root for it anyway. The New York episode especially was a dose of absolute generosity I was not expecting.

    As for movies... man, I can't remember anything this year that really stood out, but that's also because I haven't seen many of the movies from 2017. I guess the good ones are:
    Dunkirk - Nolan doing what Nolan does best
    War for the Planet of the Apes - a surprisingly tight closer that actually does hinge on serious dramatic tragedy,
    The Last Jedi and of course,
    Logan

    Which are all good for obvious reasons that I'm sure everyone's already spoken about.

    Making my enh list:
    Baby Driver - fun if inessential with a pretty 'whuh?' back half; also, Ansel Elgort seems to be channelling Toby Maguire and oh my god please do not do that ever.
    Detroit - did this stuff actually happen as it did in this movie, I do not know, but what I do know is: it's been a long time since I've seen a performance on the lines of Will Poulter's Philip Krauss. It's a note-perfect portrayal of a man whose face I would immediately want to put my fist through if I ever met him. That's amazing acting, but also probably helped by the eyebrows.
    Trainspotting 2 - good to see Spud again. Everything else was a mildly funny mid-life crime crisis in Leith, so like T1 but... lesser. Going through the motions by reliving past glories, which is part of what it wanted to say, but who wants to hear that message? Boyle should have just pulled together stuff from Porno and the other books.
    Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - also fun if inessential. As much of a treat as the first movie, but it's no longer new, and does nothing new either, plus some pretty on the nose eulogising with the whole 'Brandy' speech that made me go, 'dude, I love these songs as much as you do, but let's not get too carried away, yeah?' Kudos for putting the instrumental bridge from The Chain in during the climactic fight, but it seemed a bit unearned considering Fleetwood Mac was essentially fragmenting to bits while they were fucking each other and everyone else while that album was made AND had the balls to get their ex-lovers sing backup on not very veiled 'fuck-you's about themselves, but GotG 2's splintering family dynamic doesn't have that chemistry or impact yet.
    Get Out - interesting and well-crafted, but also really, really weird and a bit distant but not distant enough to be either a) a horror movie, or b) a comedy, so is c) an uneven blend of both. Evil Dead 2, this is not. But it is a movie about racism laced with a whole lotta... black humour.

    Okay, yeah, I'll get my coat. o/


    EDIT: Wait, hold my coat. Alien: Covenant was this year? Dude: fuck that noise so hard. That is all. Byeeeee.
    Last edited by Sulphur; 21st Dec 2017 at 05:02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    If you haven't seen [Legion], you should. It's exactly what you'd expect if the showrunner for Fargo went and made a Marvel show. There's also a bit of Wes Anderson to it in the stylistic choices and pastel tones that's fun if that floats your boat.
    Oooooh, that does sound like it might float my boat!

    *adding Dunkirk and Apes to my "Still to watch" list*

    I've enjoyed every Nolan movie and the previous Apes movies, so not sure why I haven't watched either of those.

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    I just took the trans-Pacific flight so had plenty of time to look over recent movies. Dunkirk was the only really great one that I'd watched. It was a bit over-romanticized, but telling a big story in a small and almost intimate way like that did the trick. I liked Get Out & The Big Sick, but I wouldn't say they were great. Haven't seen Ladybird yet.

    TV on the other hand has really outdone itself these last few years.
    As for this year:
    1 Halt & Catch Fire S4 (final)
    2 Handmaid's Tale
    3 Genius
    4 Godless
    5 Stranger Things S2
    6 Better Call Saul S3
    7 Rick and Morty S3
    8 Game of Thrones S7
    9 Black Sails S4
    10 Silicon Valley S4

    On my list to watch: Twin Peaks, Master of None, The Americans S5, The Get Down, Glow, The Leftovers, Narcos S3, The Crown S2, Orphan Black, Victoria, Electric Dreams, Reign, Fleabag, The Young Pope, back to Fargo, The Deuce, Person of Interest, Big Little Lies, The Expanse...

    Interestingly a lot of great shows skipped over 2017: Man in the High Castle S3, Westworld S2, Black Mirror S3, Occupied S2, Atlanta S2...
    Last edited by demagogue; 21st Dec 2017 at 09:05.

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    Yeah. Just more stuff to look forward to in 2018, I guess!

    Speaking of television, I have to agree, 2017 really was a fantastic year for televised drama. Looking purely at character drama, we've had three benchmark shows:

    -The Handmaid's Tale
    -Halt and Catch Fire S4
    -The Leftovers S3

    out of which none is perfect, but each is great at doing its own extremely specific thing. Halt and Catch Fire's finale was a beautiful and bittersweet send-off for two of the more sensitively written female roles I've seen on TV; The Handmaid's Tale is a timely cautionary story for a certain flavour of patriarchal, fascist dystopia we should be steering the hell away from instead of barrelling towards; and The Leftovers S3 is an incredibly self-assured close to what's legitimately one of the best dramas of the decade, and I say this even though I absolutely cannot stand 99% of Damon Lindelof's oeuvre - yes, it is actually so good that I have to grudgingly accept its place in the ranks of the shows I've seen, and that includes Deadwood and The Wire.

    I've yet to see Alias Grace and a whole bunch of others, but it's going to take a lot to shake those three for the year's contender of finest drama series.


    Also: someone needs to mention The Expanse S2, because while I thought S1 was pretty so-so, S2 was fantastic. It's been a while since we've had sci-fi this good.
    Last edited by Sulphur; 21st Dec 2017 at 10:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    Trainspotting 2 - good to see Spud again. Everything else was a mildly funny mid-life crime crisis in Leith, so like T1 but... lesser. Going through the motions by reliving past glories, which is part of what it wanted to say, but who wants to hear that message? Boyle should have just pulled together stuff from Porno and the other books.
    You know I was a youtube clip of the original where Begbie starts a fight in the pub, and it struck how stupid in retrospect this film is really is. I mean, if that happened in a real life situation the guys in the pub would behave like white knights and pile in the guy who just basically admitted to serious assault on a woman in a pub.


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    Does he admit it? I must confess I've never been able to 100% decipher what Begbie means by "aaaaa lassie got blasted no cunt leaves ere till we find out who cuntara!", but I'm guessing it means "nobody leaves until we find out who hurt the girl"?

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    I'd have thought the kick in the balls would've clinched it.

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    Also, yes. That's more or less what he says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craeftig View Post
    You know I was a youtube clip of the original where Begbie starts a fight in the pub, and it struck how stupid in retrospect this film is really is. I mean, if that happened in a real life situation the guys in the pub would behave like white knights and pile in the guy who just basically admitted to serious assault on a woman in a pub.
    I always parsed that 'Who the fuck are you!?' as 'She's my girlfriend so back the fuck off so I can take charge' and less something that could be mistaken as an admission of guilt. The scene's kinda weird because in the book it's a guy, not a girl, and it's drawn out to show exactly how psychotic and manipulative Begbie is; but they abbreviated it in the movie in order to appease the God of Pacing. I s'pose it does feel kinda daft if you look at it without expectations from having read the book.

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    I meant Begbie was the obvious culprit but obviously we saw it differently. I guess the scene is there as a prody of teh stereotype that Scotland is full of violent drunks which is probably true to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henke View Post
    Gotta give it to Wally Brando! What a performance.
    I almost want to give the award for that scene to Robert Forester. He doesn't have to say a single word in response to anything Wally's saying. Everything he's thinking is writ large on his face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craeftig View Post
    I meant Begbie was the obvious culprit but obviously we saw it differently. I guess the scene is there as a prody of teh stereotype that Scotland is full of violent drunks which is probably true to be fair.
    Heh, yeah. Boyle definitely swerved it towards parody. I get what you're saying: the implication of someone going on the defensive immediately without prompting means they must've had something to do with it, as common sense would have it. The point of that scene, though, was the only people who knew for sure it was Beggars who threw the glass was his own troupe on the balcony, and they wouldn't out him because their collective ownership of the situation was the universal fraternity motto that justifies sweeping shit under the carpet: 'Yeah, he's a fucking psycho, but he's a mate, so what can you do?'.
    Last edited by Sulphur; 21st Dec 2017 at 14:38.

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    I guess you're right. I'm going to have to watch Trainspotting 2 now.

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    My movies for 2017 listed from best to worst:

    1. Get Out
    2. The Disaster Artist
    3. Logan
    4. The Big Sick
    5. John Wick 2
    6. Bladerunner 2047
    7. Wonderwoman
    8. Spiderman - Homecoming
    9. Star Wars -The Last Jedi
    10. Alien - Covenant
    11. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - A very forgettable movie
    12. Bad Moms 2 (this movie was terrible)

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    To think once upon a time this was my frigging mainstay... the big movie thread... soz guys... real life. My tastes have changed a lot in the past couple of years and I just can't muster the enthusiasm I once had.

    I can't even produce a top 10 I've found the offerings to be so uniformly shitty so I'll just throw out the noteworthies (both good and bad).

    La La Land - Walked out of the cinema. It wasn't bad enough that these guys can't really sing and dance, but also there's zero sense in the narrative.

    Get Out - Intense, funny, brilliant. Saw the ending a mile away but didn't care it was such a ride.

    The Last Jedi - My SW reviews are completely unreliable. I often turn around and hate what I once loved. I've not revisited any of the new SW films since seeing them with the kids in the cinema but this one I want to see again. Pretty much just for the throne room fight.

    Baby Driver - Didn't work for me. I wanted to love it, but it just didn't click. I was bored.

    Trainspotting 2 - Stopped watching. Nostalgia doesn't work me. (See also Twin Peaks: The Return)

    Guardians 2 - Bad. Boring. Except for the intro.

    The Circle - Enjoyable enough but a little too neat and pat - like an overly long diet version of Black Mirror

    The Hitman's Bodyguard - Good fun but too much swearing for swearing's sake.

    Logan Lucky - alright to kill time on a long haul flight...

    The Big Sick - cute and authentic, well worth the watch.

    John Wick 2 - hehehehehehehehehe

    Wonder Woman - Yawn. Stopped watching.

    Haven't seen Bladerunner or Thor or Dunkirk (What the ACTUAL FUCK SCOTS you haven't seen a NOLAN MOVIE WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU) but I will definitely get around to them

    Also Three Billboards is supposed to be fucking ace

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    Scots, so glad to have you and your BAD OPINIONS back.

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    Did I say throne room fight? I meant Ben Swolo in his high pants.

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