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Thread: Valve opens almost all floodgates on the Steam storefront

  1. #26
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    Registered: Apr 2004
    Location: Netherlands
    Valve at least pretended to care about hatemongering content when it was brought to their attention (even though they do apparently have a game with a 14/88 achievement somewhere). They also blocked games from having nudity - except it was very selectively applied to anime styled games, and Witcher and Mafia and other western games seemed to be exempt. The loophole used by most of those games was by having an off-steam patch available to put the nudity back in.

  2. #27
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by TannisRoot View Post
    ...is this actually a change or just some clarification of policy?
    Just a clarification, really.

  3. #28
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by 256 colors View Post
    I can remember the good ole won days when DayOfDefeat 1.3 beta had nazi flags and ss in multiplayer online and nobody gave a toss


    Awww man, memories. THIS was my jam back in the day, none of that silly Quake or CS stuff. DOD 3.1 is where it was at. So many pointless allnighters...

    Tribes 2 as cool too

  4. #29
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2008
    Location: on a mission to civilize
    As much as I love pixel-created boobs and naughty game content, I'd rather have Portal 3.

  5. #30
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    They should release Half-Life 3, Portal 3, and Left For Dead 3 in a box just called Three.

  6. #31
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    And Half-Life: Episode 3, Team Fortress 3, and Dota 3 for another set of threes. Seriously, it's increasingly starting to look like they are just mortally afraid of the number three.

  7. #32
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: above the clouds
    Quote Originally Posted by Judith View Post
    Matching AIDS Simulator with Stanley Parable, very effective algorithms. Although that doesn't really matter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2caCVUWy0c
    I watched Jim Sterling's video here as well - in fact I only learned about Asset flips and the other crap on Steam from him. I've never actually used Steam as a basis for finding decent games, TTLG has always been enough to pick up recommendations for me, or more recently the handful of youtubers who aren't crap that I've usually seen linked to here.

    On one hand it doesn't matter to me what Valve does with Steam, but I do take the point that the company must be rolling in money and seems somewhat lazy. Personally I'd be ashamed to have AIDS simulator knocking about on my storefront, so I wonder if the accountants are just looking at numbers and seeing the income from awful shit as worth having.

    Ultimately it just looks like Capitalism to me - not surprising but maybe disappointing in some way. I've given up on thinking that there might be an actual game from Valve again, but I wonder why they aren't making one.

  8. #33
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Ireland
    I can't say I've noticed these "asset flip" games either, and I do occasionally look through Steam's suggested games and discovery queues. I still think their algorithms could be a lot better.

  9. #34
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    I usually like Jim a lot, but that video is mostly nonsense. AIDS Simulator was pulled from Steam. Steam checks all new games for basic functioning; Jim once upon a time found one game that didn't have an executable, and another that he couldn't get to run, and claims EVER SINCE that Steam doesn't check at all because something fell through the update cracks and into the hands of a guy who loves to scrape the absolute bottom of that barrel. As long as we're going with the grocery store metaphor, I've found expired items on the shelf too, if you dig deep and long enough.

    Furthermore, Steam sells media, not groceries. If a bookstore can sell Main Kampf and the Communist Manifesto without endorsing their philosophies, then why can't Steam?

  10. #35
    Yet still, even the worst book or movie has a beginning, middle, and end; you can't say the same about all the junk on Steam.

  11. #36
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Judith View Post
    Yet still, even the worst book or movie has a beginning, middle, and end...
    Uh... What? If I take that literally, then every game does too, if I take it figuratively, then you haven't seen nearly enough bad books and movies. You can go to Amazon right now and purchase and have shipped a book that is 100% blank inside (and no I'm not talking about a sketchbook):

    https://www.amazon.com/What-Men-Know.../dp/1460993780

    If you look at the suggestions, you'll see that blank gag book is a frikken' genre.

    There are blank music tracks for sale for money:

    https://www.amazon.com/433/dp/B00YEJ5Q7K
    Last edited by Pyrian; 10th Jun 2018 at 12:52.

  12. #37
    That is a joke, and it's still better than half a level made from asset pack in Unity store. Or a game template that's just resold under a different name.

  13. #38
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    I don't see a problem. It's hard to imagine people just browsing Steam and randomly buying asset flips without at least a quick check to see if it's real and worth playing. But if that's what people want to do with their money, so be it.

    Besides, Steam has a near-monopoly on PC game distribution. Because of that, they have something like a public duty to give everybody fair access, good developers and shitty developers alike.

  14. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    I don't see a problem. It's hard to imagine people just browsing Steam and randomly buying asset flips without at least a quick check to see if it's real and worth playing. But if that's what people want to do with their money, so be it.

    Besides, Steam has a near-monopoly on PC game distribution. Because of that, they have something like a public duty to give everybody fair access, good developers and shitty developers alike.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY37GbE_tYc

  15. #40
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    Doubling down on I see.

    I haven't watched this guy, so I don't know what his usual shtick is, but that video is inane.

  16. #41
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    https://steamcommunity.com/games/593...42022337025126
    The improved filtering and discoverability options have been rolled out and they sound great IMO.

  17. #42
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand

  18. #43
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Well, now I wish I had a porn game ready to go. Catch the wave before the rush! ...But I don't.

  19. #44
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    How deluded do you have to be to think Valve selling porn games (which Valve has been doing for a while now) is some kind of a victory against gaming journalists?

  20. #45
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    rofl yeah gaming journalists are 'moral authoritarians'. What an ingrate.

  21. #46
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    How deluded do you have to be to think Valve selling porn games (which Valve has been doing for a while now) is some kind of a victory against gaming journalists?
    https://youtu.be/EUjXdzfobWk

  22. #47
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Oh no! The evil SJWs are coming! Quick, assemble the SIW brigade!

  23. #48
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Well, I always wanted porn with my porn, so now thanks to Valve I can have more porn while I porn. Thanks, Valve!

    Also, no one's going to watch a 48 minute video of some random bozo talking about a non-issue to the gaming press and consumers. Do better at manufacturing conflict.

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