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  1. #1
    Registered: Aug 2008
    Location: in your second eyelids

    What OS? What tech?

    Greetings, fellow humans. Sharing is caring, so only share if you care and only claim care if you share. It's hard for me to words this morning, but I will try none the less to claim my care badge.

    What kind of OSes do you use (if Linux then maybe mention distro as well) and why? I'll start:

    I lately use Linux (Ubuntu 18.04) at home and I even use it as an external (USB-plugged) SSD (and I don't want to find out what happens once I plug it out).
    Why external? Cause I initially put this PC together at January and stupidly thought "Eh, HDD will suffice". No, it won't... Anyway, after getting annoyed with HDD choking on my million chrome tabs, I bought the very nice Samsung SSD. I plugged it externally at first cause I guess I wanted to test it quickly (and also to test the hdd/ssd port case thing for this drive). Then I thought of a meme - "Why don't I install an OS on it and use that when I want to, on whatever computer I want to? Let's try that." I had some strange issues at first but I guess it was for some other reason (don't remember :/). And it works! On my two home computers anyway. My brand new Lenovo work laptop refuses to boot this drive though.

    Why Linux? To switch it up, really, as I was using Windows a lot before. Also it's nicer when doing programming, plus I really like the terminal. Windows is only truly useful for games anyway (and I guess image/video editing tools, depressingly enough), which I haven't been playing much in the last years. Plus I don't have a good video card... I might buy one soon though as I heard the cryptocurrency meme is finally dying and people are wising up in light of their electricity bills and video cards aren't so sought after anymore.
    If Imma gonna buy a videocard, I expect it to run Cyberpunk 2077 and run it well... so 1080Ti might be the right choice there (too early to tell though...).
    And why tf does windows not do proper snapping to edges? For an OS called "Windows" it sure doesn't have as nice of a windows system as its competitors do. I also like a comfy snipping tool like the one on mac and Ubuntu (once you add the shortcut yourself, anyway).

    Any macboys here? I happened to use a couple of macs over the last year and yeah, it's nice, but why the FU is there a minimize button and shortcut which is shit and then there is the hide shortcut which is the actual minimize. And why is Finder integrated with the desktop - I can't overview just the desktop if I have a folder opened in the file explorer or some other app, it's so dumb.
    Also every shortcut in mac requires 1 key more than it needs to.
    Also every icon is blue and thus they're all indistinguishable and fugly.
    Also zero customization. Sure, it makes the brand even more standout and iconic, but I dislike that. I also don't like the finder icon. Why is it a depressed smiley face?

  2. #2
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Windows 10, although I run Linux in a VM (Vagrant) to play around with coding on an open source project I like (Open Cog, for coding AI / bots).

    Uh, Windows let's me play the most games, so that's pretty much that.

    I like the idea of running Linux off an EHD if it's easy to switch between Windows & Linux on the same system.

    But anyway I've been moving from Open Cog to another thing called Micropsi which I can develop on Windows, so the incentive isn't really there anymore. One develops Micropsi on Python as a web-app (with Bottle), which you run off a local or online server with a browser, which makes it automatically cross platform. Not to mention working on Python is so much easier than C++, no complicated dependencies and no compiling, just write & run, and it comes with its own shell. It's suddenly my favorite thing to work on ever. I think Python itself & most of the associated things that run with it are pretty platform independent as well.

    Edit: I also do coding for Darkmod. That's C++, both scripts that the game itself parses and runs in-game (C++like) and compiled sourcecode. It was a pain to set up the compiling first time, but once you have it set up it's fine. I can work in Windows 10 / Visual C++ for that. The beauty with that is that people that know what they're doing will do the actual deployment, where the OS might matter, and they always have a Linux version. But it doesn't matter that I use Windows for the coding.
    Last edited by demagogue; 14th Jul 2018 at 06:48.

  3. #3
    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: Netherlands
    Programming in Windows is fine in my opinion. With C# it's pretty much the only way. At work I'm also on Windows and PhpStorm works perfectly fine on it, when configured correctly. It operates fast and syncing files with the server happens quickly too. I'm allowed to ask for a Linux box but I don't see the need.

    Only the designers and our iOS programmer have Macs where I work. But I have a friend who codes in Java on a MacBook with IntelliJ and he's perfectly content with it.

    At home I have a Windows 10 desktop PC and a laptop which I only use for listening to music and some web browsing, which runs Windows 7. I can't upgrade that laptop to Windows 10 no matter what I try, the installation flash drive or DVD hangs at first boot.

  4. #4
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    I use Windows 10, like a normal person.

  5. #5
    Registered: Jul 2001
    Location: Netherlands
    You use the OS(es) that your job requires you to use.

    At home you use whatever you like. Or are used to. It doesn't matter. It's amateur stuff. Nobody cares.

    (Doesn't this belong in the "Technical & Troubleshooting Arena" sub-forum) ?

  6. #6
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    Currently in my household: Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials, CentOS 7, Windows 7, Windows 10, macOS High Sierra, Fedora 2x, iOS, Android.

    I was an early adopter of Linux in 1995 and Mac OS X in 2001. At various times I've used Linux, Mac OS, and Windows as my primary OS. Ever since Windows 7 and Mac OS X Snow Leopard came out, I've found it hard to go back to Linux on the desktop for daily home use, but I'm still partial to it for software development (which I don't do anymore unfortunately). At work we're primarily Windows on the desktop, and on the server side it's a mix of RHEL and Windows Server.

  7. #7
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Windows 7. My OS of preference.

  8. #8
    Registered: Feb 2000
    Location: Portreath Cornwall UK
    OS X for every day use with boot camp running windows 10 for gaming.

  9. #9
    Registered: Nov 1999
    Location: Deck 4 Cargo Bays
    I use Xubuntu 18.04 for daily use, with dual-boot into Windows 10 for games that refuse to work under Wine.

    I switched to Linux because I got tired of the activation hassles Windows puts you through. And the cost of buying an OS for every computer I built.
    It's far easier to stay legit when the OS is free.

  10. #10
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    I can't stand Linux. It's so 90s as you still have to use the command line a fair bit to get anything working. What in windows would take me 10 minutes to fix always ends up taking me hours to fix there.

  11. #11
    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: The Inverted Manse
    Windows 10 for gaming, Linux (Mint) for everything else, including DromEd!

  12. #12
    Registered: Aug 2000
    Location: VIE, .at
    Starchat #linuxtaffers represent!

    I'm too old to let software disrespect me. There's no Windows in my household. In the past, I tried many OS, mostly from seeing them on Slashdot. I still have the numerous burnt CDs around, it's quite a stack.

    We have four computers and I've standardised on Tumbleweed which is the one that sucks the least amount. The new laptop came with Kubuntu and I want to replace it, but didn't bother yet because I only use it rarely for presentations and travel. My mobile phone runs stock Sailfish.

  13. #13
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    I use Windows 10 primarily, though I wish I could hop over to Linux land permanently. I don't hate Windows, but there's so much more I like about Linux. It's flexible beyond ridiculousness, and I like the desktop layout Gnome provides.

    The only reason why I haven't made the jump full time is due to a lack of a good photo editor and vector program. Yeah, I know, I've got GIMP and Inkscape. The problem is, they're I want my Photoshop/Illustrator, or, preferably, Affinity Photo/Designer. I just don't feel like I'm truly at home without them.

  14. #14
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    I can't stand Linux. It's so 90s as you still have to use the command line a fair bit to get anything working. What in windows would take me 10 minutes to fix always ends up taking me hours to fix there.
    That's probably due to you not being used to it. Last time I used Linux, which was about a month ago, give or take, I hopped into the terminal maybe 5 times altogether, and that was just to do stuff that's simply easier to do from a command line.

    With the recent developer push to provide a good user experience, and the advent of flatpaks and snaps, Linux isn't much more difficult to use than Windows these days. It's still relatively nerdy over there, but not as bad as it was.

  15. #15
    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    Well I recently went all the way from XP to windows 10 and I can say of the two I prefer the former. It was simple. When it chose where things went there was only one place for it to go. Now I download a segment I've shot and have to search for it next I need it. I like being able to trim it and do minor editing without an extra program but that's a Sony thing that came with the camera I'm sure. I'm sure it's all my fault but still I hate having to relearn things I've grown so accustomed to.

  16. #16

    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: North of everything
    As a mildly paranoid SysAdmin, I refuse to answer that question directly. However, thinking back for as long as I can remember, every single new version of Microsoft Windows was somehow worse than the previous, for at least three reasons: A) it was slower, 2) it was prettier, and most importantly C) it was more user friendly. I hate user friendly. It just means they've changed everything to the point where you can't find anything anymore, and the OS is trying to "help" you not find what you're trying to do. It tries to do more but allows you to do less. This is also a perfectly good reason to hate everything ever made by Apple. But there are of course a lot more reasons for that.

    UNIX versions, OTOH, seemed to improve over time, but I kinda lost track in the late 90s and I can't really comment on what's happened since.

    Linux was something I always meant to fiddle around with in my spare time, except I didn't have any, and thus never did. I still plan to, some day.

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