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Thread: Curse Of The Ancients - 2000.07.24

  1. #1
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2001
    Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

    Curse Of The Ancients - 2000.07.24

    This is a really dark level. I can only seriously play it at night. But that's not my problem. In the cemetary there are a couple of things happening. One is at the gravesite of Morgan? whose ghost lounges around, waiting for something to happen, I guess. I found out pretty quick jumping into the grave was nasty. I thought that was the entrence to the lower sections. Eventually I clued in and now he's happy, I hope. But I still can't access his wall safe. Where is the key for that?

    The other hole is in a crypt. I never survive the drop. Is there something to do first? Does this involve the contents of the wall map?

  2. #2
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    Registered: Jan 2002
    I never found the key to his wall safe, either. However, due to a bug, I was able to grab all of the stuff in the safe right through the safe door. I asked a question about the location of the key awhile back but didn't get a response.

    Is there wood above that you can shoot a rope arrow into and then climb down? It's been awhile, so maybe I'm wrong.

  3. #3
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: around Buffalo, NY
    Honestly, I don't remember where the key is to open the wall safe.. I don't remember it being necessary to finish the mission.. I think there are just a few flash bombs in there or something...

    As for the hole in the crypt.. It's really too dark to see, but there's a piece of wood on the floor by the hole... You can waste a fire arrow to see where it is, or just face the wall that's closest to the hole, shoot a rope arrow right above the top of the hole, and hope it sinks into the wood... That'll give you a rope to slide down..

    Great mission, by the way..one of my favorites.. You'll have a lot of fun once you get down there.. It's a tricky one, though, so be prepared for some traps and a few challenging puzzles..

  4. #4
    Moderator
    Registered: May 2000
    Location: Thunder Bay, On., Canada
    You can get the key to the safe by taking him to the grave beside his sweetheart. The key appears in the air by the grave, I think.

    To get down the hole in the crypt, use a rope arrow. It goes into a wooden part that just above the hole (Below the stained glass window).

  5. #5
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2001
    Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Thank you one and all. I'll go back to the game in a few hours, when the natural light in the room is gone and I can see what I'm doing. I thought of using a rope arrow but couldn't find anything for it to attach to. But I was looking at the ceiling, not the wall. Silly me.

    I'll have to go back to before I deposited the corpse of Morgan and he thanked me to see if a key appears. Thanks Nightwalker....nice to see you back.

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2001
    Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    I wondered when I took the ladder down how I was going to get back up, but thought retrieving the talisman of Ramises would open an exit. But it didn't. There is a force field leading to a couple of haunt gaurds and what appears to be 2 separate hidden passageways in the room with a circular lava pool. They haven't opened for me either. I've run around looking for switches, and tried using the speed potion to jump up to the ladder. I've tried hacking a statue in order to stack the pieces bringing me close enough to the ladder but the statue wouldn't break. I roped back down to the area which contained the talisman, thinking I may have missed a switch there but found nothing.
    I shot rope arrows all over looking for some place it would take hold, remembering how I got down here in the first place. Finally, I loaded a recent save and looked around the area before descending the ladder for a way to turn off the force field, even killing the guards so I could explore at my leaisure. Nothing.

    Am I going to be embarrassed again by the solution to this.

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2002
    Originally posted by Clock
    I wondered when I took the ladder down how I was going to get back up, but thought retrieving the talisman of Ramises would open an exit. But it didn't. There is a force field leading to a couple of haunt gaurds and what appears to be 2 separate hidden passageways in the room with a circular lava pool. They haven't opened for me either. I've run around looking for switches, and tried using the speed potion to jump up to the ladder. I've tried hacking a statue in order to stack the pieces bringing me close enough to the ladder but the statue wouldn't break. I roped back down to the area which contained the talisman, thinking I may have missed a switch there but found nothing.
    I shot rope arrows all over looking for some place it would take hold, remembering how I got down here in the first place. Finally, I loaded a recent save and looked around the area before descending the ladder for a way to turn off the force field, even killing the guards so I could explore at my leaisure. Nothing.

    Am I going to be embarrassed again by the solution to this.
    So far, you haven't missed anything, but you may need to go back and read the notes you picked up in the city above for a clue.

    spoiler:
    In case you didn't pick it up all of the notes, one tells you to destroy the gold skulls for access to the tombs. Hint: think "incinerate"

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2001
    Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Thanks Brian.....I must have missed that note. Which puts me in a bad spot. How many other notes have I missed. I think I'm gonna have to start this level over again. Because there is no going back at the point where you descend the ladder. So I can't return to retrieve any information I missed.

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2002
    Originally posted by Clock
    Thanks Brian.....I must have missed that note. Which puts me in a bad spot. How many other notes have I missed. I think I'm gonna have to start this level over again. Because there is no going back at the point where you descend the ladder. So I can't return to retrieve any information I missed.
    Actually, you CAN get back up that ladder
    spoiler:
    but only after you've thrown the gold skulls into the lava
    Grab a couple of those boulders (rubble) in the stairway and place them under ladder/hole. If the boulder is in the right position, you can do a short run and jump and grab the ladder and get back out. It took me at least 15 attempts, but I was able to do it.

    There were 4 notes (I think) that you were supposed to grab. The location of each note was mentioned in another note. They give you some hints about what to do and what to expect in the tombs. You may not need them if you're really good about exploring everything/everywhere. Of course, since you missed the notes, maybe starting over isn't such a bad idea.

  10. #10
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    Registered: Aug 2001
    Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Yes, I see now that I could use some boulders to climb up to the ladder. The notes, I assume are the "Papyrus" that speaks of the various tombs. But the papyrus that relates to Ramises doesn not mention golden skulls ! But why would a different papyrus need to mention this point. Very confusing. Unless the information about the skulls is NOT in one of the four papyrus, but a separate note exclusive of those four. I guess I have to go on a scavenger hunt for anything that speaks to exiting the tomb of Ramises.

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: around Buffalo, NY
    I think the notes are fairly cryptic, but give you hints on a few of the puzzles you need to get through to get the talismans.

    As far as the note about the skulls goes:

    spoiler:
    It might not be mentioned in the Ramises note because incinerating the skulls is what gives you access to the other tombs after you get the talisman of Ramises..so it might be in another note about getting into the other tombs. At any rate, once you incinerate the skulls in the lava, it basically opens up the rest of the tombs for you to explore, so you won't have to worry about finding a way to leave the tomb area until you've gotten all of the talismans..


    As for the force field:

    spoiler:
    I think it's supposed to disappear once you have the talismans, but it's a bit buggy and never worked for me. I always had to try to get back up the ladder using boulders..tough, but not impossible..

  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2001
    Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    Thanks fornever.....I finished the level last night. But after reading all the papyrus, I still couldn't extract that bit of knowledge from any of them. And thats KNOWING what I'm looking for. Suffice to say, had it not been for this thread, I'd still be down there, insane by now

    The force field opened for me when I possessed all the talismen. So it was just a dash through and up the ladder for me. Thankfully, because jumping on those boulders is irritating as hell.

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: Minnesota, USA

    Help with Ramises tomb

    spoiler:
    I think I get the idea that the spot in the ceiling turns to wood or something, but there are 6 haunts guarding the talisman, and I am just wondering if there is an easier way than: 1. dropping down and grabbing the talisman and 2. trying to avoid 6 sword wielding haunts and shooting a rope arrow into that one little spot in the ceiling then climbing up.
    Trying to do all that without being chopped into little bitty bits( these buggers are fast!) is going to be one tough job? Any suggestions appreciated.

  14. #14
    Moderator
    Registered: May 2000
    Location: Thunder Bay, On., Canada
    It's actually quite easy when you've figured out a couple of things.
    spoiler:
    If you drop down to the lower floor just after you enter the balcony above the haunts, they won't react. Then you can sneak up the side, flip the lever to turn the center piece to wood, sneak back down to the end and shoot the rope arrow. Then go over to the left side and creep all the way up to the front in there. If you stand there for a few seconds, you'll push down a pressure plate and activate an arrow trap. You can just stand there in the dark and watch the haunts be destroyed by the arrows, because they all go to investigate! If you're lucky, they'll all be killed, but at the least most of them will be gone. Then you can just run over, grab the talisman and climb the rope to get out.

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: Minnesota, USA

    Thanks Nightwalker

    Once again I am in your debt. Thank You. Sounds like Trial by Night is the next fm to play! Later

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: Big Piney Woods of Texas
    I can't get into the tomb of Ramises which is supposed to be easy. Have done everything else for this mission except that. The force field has disappeared even though I am still missing a talisman. Cannot get the locked gates to open at the top of the stairs of the tomb
    I used a fire arrow
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    on the skulls instead of putting them in the lava, if this makes a difference.

    Also, am reading Nw's post re
    spoiler:
    a lever that you sneak up to after dropping down from a balcony into an area with 6 haunts. This lever opens a small area in the ceiling for a rope area. Is this AFTER you get in the tomb or is this the Albumasar Family tomb with the large fountain?



  17. #17
    Moderator
    Registered: May 2000
    Location: Thunder Bay, On., Canada
    It's been a long time BUT
    spoiler:
    I think the area you quoted me about is inside the Tomb of Ramases. To get in there, you have to weigh down the two pedestals that the skulls were sitting on. You can use rocks from the broken staircase of pile potions, etc. from your inventory on them.

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: Big Piney Woods of Texas

    Dang, thanks Nw! I had tried using the skulls and then jumping on those OBVIOUS pedestals but nothing happened so I moved on.


  19. #19
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Malmö, Sweden
    Quote Originally Posted by Sap'em
    spoiler:
    I think I get the idea that the spot in the ceiling turns to wood or something, but there are 6 haunts guarding the talisman, and I am just wondering if there is an easier way than: 1. dropping down and grabbing the talisman and 2. trying to avoid 6 sword wielding haunts and shooting a rope arrow into that one little spot in the ceiling then climbing up.
    Trying to do all that without being chopped into little bitty bits( these buggers are fast!) is going to be one tough job? Any suggestions appreciated.

    OMG! It was ages since I played this mission but what you describe, I remember in the smallest detail. YES, I did what you describe, on the first try, too!

    spoiler:
    Of course, I was a new taffer on the block at the time, and woke up the haunts. I ran around frantically trying to figure out how to get up again. Somehow I spotted that the ceiling had changed and SOMEHOW I managed to shoot an arrow and climb up without getting killed. Probably my best "T2 action maneuver" ever. I still don´t know how I did it...

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2003
    Location: Littleton
    There is a real easy way to get that talisman and take care of the zombie sounding haunts. This is presuming you don't have the ultimate difficulty patch applied in which case I can't comment.

    spoiler:
    First thing to know is that behind the pillars on the left and right side of talisman there are some goldish panels. The middle panel on each wall is frobbable. The one on the right facing the talisman has three gold vases. The one on the left has a switch behind it which causes the ceiling panel to slide away revealing the wooden panel you ran rope arrow into. If you stay close to the wall you can avoid detection by the haunts. Once you've collected the three gold gold trinkets, flipped the switch and shot a rope arrow into the revealed wood panel slowly creep along the left wall all the way into the dark corner to the left of the talisman. You will engage a trap that will continually shoot arrows from the second column out. Wait while the haunts stumble around getting shot until they are all dead and you won't have "broken a sweat."

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