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  • I usually prefer the SWORD.

    23 74.19%
  • I like the MACE.

    8 25.81%
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Thread: Guards, what HtH weapon do you use?

  1. #1
    Member
    Registered: Jun 1999
    Location: Sunny place

    Guards, what HtH weapon do you use?

    When reviewing the numbers Dalai gave us (the builders be praised) i decided to drop my good old trusty mace and go for a sword. For me, the speed drop didn't make up for the damage increase. But i just read in another topic that guards do get some damage bonus when hitting from behind, which would be good enough to justify a mace again.

    So, what close combat weapon do you use, guards?

  2. #2
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2002
    Location: Shadows
    The sword. It can block. And it's all about speed.

  3. #3
    Member
    Registered: Jun 1999
    Location: Sunny place
    Block? I don't even have it mapped. Nor have i needed it (against DMers, you understand. I love DMers, they are like piñatas full of health potions for me to use. Other than that, they make the game boring and uninteresting. And easy to win. )

  4. #4
    New Member
    Registered: Jan 2003
    mace. most thieves won't know what hit them. plus, their screen shakes and they get somewhat uneasy. and careless. combine with a speed potion and you're unstoppable.

    really, who can beat four hits, uncharged? the first two you'll get before the thief even starts running, if you're good.

  5. #5
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2002
    Location: Shadows
    Originally posted by Mr. K.
    Block? I don't even have it mapped. Nor have i needed it (against DMers, you understand. I love DMers, they are like piñatas full of health potions for me to use. Other than that, they make the game boring and uninteresting. And easy to win. )
    It can block arrows. I've found blocking useful more often than you'd think, try it some time.

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: Jun 1999
    Location: Sunny place
    If i get sniped (the very rare times i do) i just hide behind the corner (there's always one) or dodge the arrows. I also call for help and just amuse the thief with my l33t n1nj4 skillz while someone else goes from behind and pokes them. That and i'm too a berserk to use a weapon of mass destruction to block. I admit though that if as a thief a guard would just block my arrows i'd hate him lots and cry like a baby.

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Palo Alto, CA

    The MACE! I sometimes hide as a guard with my trusty mace fully loaded, then I jump out of nowhere and swing, crushing the cowering taffer.

  8. #8
    is a Black Cat!
    Registered: Mar 2000
    Location: .no
    I never use the mace, always the sword. It's really a speed issue.

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Vault 13
    It really depends on what you're doing, if you're planning to run around chasing thieves and going out on a hunt, the sword is for you. If you plan on guarding an objective or building (Korman-ruby, DE), then you're better off with the mace.

    And you all forgot to note the mace's 'stun' effect. It can be really disorienting which makes escaping hard. If you surpirse a thief with a mace, he's dead 95% of the time.

    Oh, and Panch, I believe blocking is one of the most underestimated actions in the game
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..."

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    I didn't vote, since you don't have an option for "I use both, but which one I choose depends on the map".

    As -=V12US=- said, it depends on how you are going to guard. On Flats I like the sword because guarding that map usually involves lots of running. On DE I like the mace because I guard indoors, so many times the thief and I don't see each other until we're right on top of each other. I also go through phases of taking mace more than sword, and vice versa. Usually when I've got the sword, and have hit a thief 5 times, and then he KO's me, it makes me switch back to the mace for a while.

    Every single one of my guard loadouts has speed pots - they are necessary no matter which weapon you've got.

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: May 2001
    Location: .nl
    Originally posted by neg
    and you're unstoppable.

    Whee! *cries* I don't want to be unstopable. (The player)


    I generally use the sword, and sometimes a mace. Depends on who are playing as the thieves.

  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Germany near Cologne
    For long period of time it was all sword with me, too.
    But now I prefer the mace.
    You may be surprised but sometimes (on maps where I think whistlers, mines or 'trops are not very useful) when I feel like going out without much fancy stuff I buy them both.
    You are only slowed when the weapon is readied.

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2002
    Location: a tract of land designated for a purpose
    Originally posted by DaBeowulf
    For long period of time it was all sword with me, too.
    But now I prefer the mace.
    You may be surprised but sometimes (on maps where I think whistlers, mines or 'trops are not very useful) when I feel like going out without much fancy stuff I buy them both.
    You are only slowed when the weapon is readied.
    I didn't think you could do that? I thought if you bought both, the mace superceded the sword.

  14. #14
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Lord Bafford's Manor
    Actually you can buy both a mace and a sword. To cycle between the two push your sword/mace button...each time you press it the other weapon will become active.

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2002
    Location: a tract of land designated for a purpose
    Originally posted by Sneaky
    Actually you can buy both a mace and a sword. To cycle between the two push your sword/mace button...each time you press it the other weapon will become active.
    Wow. I did not know that!

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Germany near Cologne
    Originally posted by LaughingRat
    Wow. I did not know that!
    bwuahaha




  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: The Netherlands
    Yup, beo is right, it is posible .... but it's a totaly waste of money :O

    For the money you buy that second melee weapon, you could have 5 speeds or more.

    Anyways, i always use the sword. I'm a speed guy .... and mace is tooooooooo slow for me hehe.

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2002
    Location: a tract of land designated for a purpose
    Originally posted by DaBeowulf
    bwuahaha


    Sorry, man. Largely due to me, that pic is overused, and just doesn't bite the way it used to. Try again.


  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: The Netherlands
    Originally posted by LaughingRat
    Sorry, man. Largely due to me, that pic is overused, and just doesn't bite the way it used to. Try again.

    what a weak come back

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Germany near Cologne
    yeah it sort of belongs to the TUT forums thanks to you I think and that was what
    the joke was all about bringing it up on a funny occassion.

    5 Speeds would be 500 starting loot,
    the sword costs 250 and the mace 300 or 350 so you are wrong here.
    (Strange:I thought you was the one knowing the all the prices exactly)
    you may get 5 Speeds(if there's no restriction on them) when you don't buy any
    melee weapon but of how much use would they be then.
    This all assuming the pretty standard 600/800 or so starting loot amounts used on most servers and game defaults.

    EDIT: Ick I am wrong. Cuz it IS 850 guard starting loot. Not 600 like for the thieves.
    (You are the one I thought you were after all. )
    Dumb me.
    Still don't know 'bout restrictions on speeds, though.
    Last edited by DaBeowulf; 10th Jan 2003 at 11:35.

  21. #21
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: The Netherlands
    actualy beo, you were right, not me

    I just typed it ... without thinking, it seems. I thought speed costs 50 loot, and you could buy as many as posible ... but that's wrong

    Anyways, i ment to say, for the 300 loot ( the mace ) i can buy alot of other items that are usefull in the game. So ... that was my point.

    ( sorry to disapoint you beowulf. Gues i din't know the prices after all )

  22. #22
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: England, Uk
    Sword because im "Cosy" with it.....plus i like the normal speed..... if the taffer uses speed he gets away who cares he has to come back i say

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