oh thank you very much for your FLAMING CRITISISM! and for tearing down the last possible thread of humanness left in my dieing body, you killer! DIE!
no jk. Actually i really do welcome critisism along with compliments, after all, only critisism will bring about improvement.
Ok, about the outside, i know its dull and that was somthing that was on my mind to do before i wrapped my mission up but i never really got to decorating the outside to extensivley. The trees were about as much time as i wanted to spend, and i hoped that the fountains did help slightly. The armory, the armory.....yeah, dull, very dull, infact originally i intended on making it into a maze about 10 times that size (i can't remmember why i wanted to do that now).![]()
Anyway, don't think all the time spent with that post you made is all going to waste because as of this afternoon, i have decided to redo alot of the mistakes and i have already received 2 or 3 pm's with some of the same flaws mentioned in them and i do have a list handy that i am writing stuff down to improve. I should have the (improved version) ready for download with alot of the flaws fixed. I do want this fm to be PERFECT because it is my first and last. Also, you should try fm building some time, its actually quiet gratifying
spepecally when i have nice people that critisize nicley and compliments. Thanks guys! look for my updated version soon!
Timmy
p.s shitty spelling = exhausted after work, sorry





Yeah, a bit extreme perhaps.. But you people forced it on me with all this positiveness! I had to bring balance to the force.. <-- See, I'm just a Keeper (or Jedi
) in training! It's all your fault! .. Heh..
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I think the mistakes I notice in FMs wouldn't build themselves up so much in my mind if all I usually read about are compliments and kudos to FM authors. That is all good and well, but, as you said, for the most part one can't improve something without someone being brave and saying "it wasn't perfect" 
Nah, who would want to bother with my piece of shite?! Heh, good luck, I wish the best.
until I read your post , went back and did a more thorough sweep.

.. You couldn't believe how annoyed I was at that.. All those arrows *goes crazy*. And by the way, you forgot to include extras in the 'oblong crates' as you put in a note. I thought, "Hey, cool.. I guess he's going to be nice after all"
.. I still stand behind my views that many areas were textured poorly or dully and the excessive cut & pasting interfers with the realism of the mission. I'm not saying that he (?) didn't put a lot of work into the mission, I'm just reiterating that it doesn't feel real for me, and I'm probably the only one. He he, now we see which is more powerful: the forces of Evil or the forces of Good. Join the Dark Side or die!
Also, I didn't mean it as 'unreal' in the sense that I suspect you're thinking, just that the realism for me was lacking.. Or perhaps interrupted, especially by the matching pairs of male/female AIs standing opposite each other, bunks full of sleeping guards (not quite as disturbing as the last of course), and some of the other placement/repetition of objects that I felt took away from the atmosphere. I've already mentioned this all so I'll try not to repeat myself. And I don't mean (again) to only mention things I disliked, or only make out that I disliked it wholly; if anything I am trying to balance the well-deserved compliments with (hopefully) constructive criticism. If I haven't said it already, I would frankly be let down and insulted if I only received compliments by my first or last FM (assuming I finish/release any).. Even if they were almost flawless, I would want the criticism so I could improve upon my works, or at least have the intended effect of preventing me from getting a 'big head'. Not to say any of this applies to you, but in general I am sometimes disturbed by this.. Take for example The Two Towers. After seeing this movie the first time I was quite shocked and surprised by the additions and alterations. I belong to a community dedicated to the worship of J.R.R. Tolkien, but when I went to vent my feelings or look for like-minded people, I only saw reviews of worship and eternal praise directed towards Peter Jackson, the actors, and the movie itself. I won't draw this on much longer, but my point is that it is a sick thing to twist something around to only seem a positive or negative thing. And as such, although I tried to name a few things I enjoyed about your FM, my criticisms are meant to be read in concert with the praise. If you grasped upon my every word and ignored or refused to read the other posts, you would surely be depressed or at least burdened with the thought that your FM wasn't well received. And that's just as bad as only receiving or reading the fond words. So, in closing, and I apologize for going on like this, I wish you the best of luck in the future (in your DromEding and ventures in the 'real world') and hope you do not see me as attempting to assail your many hours spent in the creation of your very first fan mission nor that I shall bear any ill will towards you in the future should you take up the tools of The Builder again. I will be looking forward to your updated mission, and I will try to reflect upon what I said, with the newfound approach at equal parts praise and criticism in any future comments I make about any one mission. Believe me, I have tried hard, but it unfortunately remains that I am proof of the unforgiving and baised Thief player. Oftentimes I have downloaded missions, played them, and almost immediately stopped -- almost in disgust -- when I enter an environment that doesn't match my ideas of what Thief should look like, or more commonly doesn't have sufficient architecture or texture use for my tastes. Don't get me wrong; this doesn't diminish any of the respect I hold for authors who while away the hours building something just for me, the selfish and greedy gamer, and I really wish I could just play an FM from the point-of-view that the gameplay is the most important aspect, but I know this to be wishful thinking in my case. Know that I have felt this way (and in many cases, more strongly about my criticisms) many times before and will unfortunately come away from FMs in the future with negative experiences and memories. Don't let it get to you though, and again, good luck
. Thanks for the tips, and hopefully one of these days i will get around to making another ThiefFm (althought it might be the ThiefIII editor im using by then). Thanks!
Who knows..
