Getting Shock1 to run on MAC!

[la0s]

I just got myself a brand new iBook and thought it would be sweet to have system shock working on it since I've read somewhere on here that it was possible. This is my first mac so maybe that's why it wont work but I doubt it.

When running it under classic the menu pops up fine and i'm able to start the game, but the it's supposed to enter the game the screen gets all messed up, and the only way I can get it to update the screen is by pressing pause. That'll show the game in all it's splendor but as soon as I hit pausebutton again it's still frozen with the pause-text over the screen.

Do you have any idea? I'll really really appreciate it... I'm going on a vacation soon and would love to be able to shock it a bit. Thanks!!!!

[SNAFU]

I don't have a Mac in front of me with OS X, nor have I gotten a chance to use it much, so pure supposition here.

I'm willing to bet it might be some graphics related Extension. Probably some new-fangled ATI acceleration driver.

Try turning off some unnecessary Extensions (or simply use the "Basic" template) via Extension Manager. With a little trial and error, you can usually find the offending Extension(s) and keep the rest. But I'd start with all the ATI Extensions; in my experience, drawing or coloring errors are fixed by turning those off.

Sorry if this isn't all that helpful, but I'm quite sure the problem is Extension-related, as I've gotten SS1 to work perfectly on a dual-processor G4 under OS X simply by turning this or that off.

[BryanN]

I would like to direct your attention to the search option on the bar above these messages. SS1 on Mac has been addressed in the recent past.

[la0s]

First of all SNAFU thanks for the help. I'm not too good on OS X but I did manage to find something called extensions (under OS 9 controlpanel) on the classic menu, but alas it didn't really help. The graphics are still corrupted. I don't know why this is, and if there's anything I need to do.

And BryanN. I have looked and searched (it's not like I'm new here ) and haven't been able to find anything except some people talking about having some problems with classic and sshock.

[SNAFU]

I would like to direct your attention to the search option on the bar above these messages. SS1 on Mac has been addressed in the recent past.

Timeout here...

We're talking about System Shock 1.

Graphics corruption in System Shock 1.

Graphics corruption in System Shock 1 for the Mac.

Can you possibly think of something more rare?

[la0s]

thank you SNAFU.

btw. if I could (sometime in the near future) send you a copy of my extension prefs, would you mind going over it?

If you haven't got the time it's okay, no need to bother yourself.

[SNAFU]

Don't mind at all.

[bobz]

If this endeavor succeeds, please do post here about what you did to make it happen. I've personally come to the conclusion that I cannot run SS1 under Classic on my OS X Powerbook.

[Dr.Wagner]

System Shock on a Mac?

Haaaaaahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahah ahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaha..... .

Not funny.

[Drat]

Yeah, with the SS1 Mac version, you dope.

And you do realise that Mac's were somewhat graphically superior back then. There is some higher res stuff in SS1 in the Mac version. Hell, the Mac version of Wolfentstein 3D had twice as detailed sprites as the PC version.

[Kolya]

Puts on his nurse dress and the red signallamp on his head and carries Dr.Wagner on a stretcher out of the thread after his laugh got stuck in his throat.

Kolya

[Ajare]

Puts on his nurse dress

Sounds hot. Pics?

[Dr.Wagner]

*hits with lead pipe from System Shock 1*

[Kolya]

Autopsy is set for 1630 and then we'll see what makes this Lazarus tick...


Kolya

[ZylonBane]

*hits with lead pipe from System Shock 1*

Just so you know-- you're coming across like a complete dumbass. The Mac version of SS1 is actually technically superior to the PC version. So maybe you should cut your losses and write this thread off.

[bish777]

it runs fine if you reboot and run it under OS9.

If you got the same copy as me, burn the CD under OS X first as 0s9 diskcopy dont like the image for some reason.

The Mac version looks much nicer than the PC version, and alot of the log pictures and other things are of higher quality.

[la0s]

hey bish777 I'm sorry to say that it's not possible.

newer macs can't boot into os9. They only have classic mode.
And there is no way to boot into os9. They have a hardware restriction for OS9

I actually played around with this problem yesterday (getting shock to work) and I'm afraid there's no way. I updated and "down"dated drivers, played around with the extensions nothing works on newer G4 machines and of course the G5s.

[furiousgeorge]

I wouldn't give up so easily. I'm not quite sure what filesystems work with Macs, but that really shouldn't matter. I'm sure you can make multiple partitions on your HDD and install OS9 on one of them.

Yeah, I just did a quick google and it's very possible. Then you can use a partition manager to switch between the 2 and then give it a go. You might want to even use an older MacOS on the other partition.

I hope that points you in the right direction.

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Now that I think of it, I have a copy of SS1 for PC and might like to try it out on a Mac. I know where to get the PC version (yet I own it so there's no need), but can anyone hook me up with a source for the Mac version?

[bobz]

You don't understand, George. In late 2002, Apple stopped making Macs that were physically capable of booting OS 9. There's something in the firmware that prevents it now.

So Classic mode is the ony option for those of us with recently built machines. And unfortunately, Classic apparently won't run SS.

[furiousgeorge]

I see...thanks for the info Bobz.

That's too bad. I guess the people I saw must have been running older Macs. There's probably a hack firmware to get around it, but I don't know for sure, I'm just guessing like before so I'll just shut up.

Only other option is finding an old Mac which unfortunately won't do much for your vacation.

You know, I love Macs, too bad I don't own one...yet.

Any ideas on getting a copy of SS1 anyone?

[ToxicFrog]

Any ideas on getting a copy of SS1 anyone?

In accordance with the FAQ.

[la0s]

I don't know why but something tells me, that it is indeed possible to make shock working in Classic. I've played around with the extensions and as I've described that doesn't work. But I've been a PC user since 1988, and just recently bought an iBook, so it is quite possible that I'm overlooking something-

If someone knew of a way to install other extensions it probably could work. The thing is definately connected to the videocard drivers, and or the quicktime extensions. Because the first errors come up when the Origin logo-anim is played. Which is why I guess there's some conflict there that probably affects the game.

Another thing worth looking into, is trying to run Shock on an older mac but still in Classic. Since it works in booting into OS9 we probably could get some understanding of if the problem is connected to Classic or the hardware. What i mean is, if a dual boot Mac can play shock in both Classic and OS9 native, that must mean it's hardware related, if it wont work in classic, then it's an error in Classic.

Hope that makes any sense.

[la0s]

Do you know if it's possible to run system 7.5 in OS X classic?

[furiousgeorge]

In accordance with the FAQ.

Wow...how did I miss...

Anyway, thanks...

laOs,

I can't specifically help you out, but I applaud what you're doing. Good luck.

[la0s]

Thanks FG!

Well as I had thought it's only OS9.2.2 that'll run in Classic.

I tried removing the intros since it seemed they triggered the error when being played. It was a silly attempt that of course didn't work.

I think the major problem is that you haven't got ANY access to the preferences. You can turn extensions on or off, and that's about it.