||Topic: random fun stuff
| posted February 05, 1999 06:44 AM
Well, you could say I was inspired by a similar post on the old
board. That, and the "umm... 15th post" thread I just responded to,
where someone (Andman, maybe) asked if we had found "secret" stuff
that turned out to be not so secret. So some fun stuff I've done
In cragscleft, most of the guards I knocked out ended up in
locked cells with big headaches. (wait! it gets
In the bonehoard, the puzzle sequence to find the mystic's heart
(i think... the one that's lower on the objectives list) was pretty
kewl. I ended up mostly running and jumping thru the statues of the
watchers - is there a better way to do it? And the spook (red-garbed
skeleton-dude with a sword) was a nice effect - scary at first, if
you don't know there's more of 'em to come. 'course, i avoided him,
too, sneak that i am. heh.
Oh, and fyi - there's a little trove
of water arrows a bit into the level. When you're in the 2nd indoors
room, turn back the way you came in and there's some stairs to your
right (on the side you find the body). Walk up - you should end up
about 2/3 of the way up the first room - the one with the rope and
zombie. If you look in a little crack in the wall that's on the side
facing the entrance to the tombs, there's a treasure chest chock
full o' water arrows. Yummy.
Ramirez's mansion is full of fun stuff to do, methinks. My 1st
time thru the game (on normal), I just chased the guards I was
following thru the front door to get in. This time I noticed that
the side guards left, so I could get in that way, but I didn't feel
like it... so I got a bunch of crates from around the city and made
my way in over the wall. It took 5 crates on the low wall to the
right of the entrance, then another 2 on top of that wall, but I
mantled over the tall wall and smashed in the bowman-guard's skull
Incidentally, it's really worth it to go back to Farkus'
shop when you have the time. Yeah, you can get the fire arrow,
flashbomb, and bread when you're first there, but probably not the
rest of the stuff. There's fire, water, rope, and broadhead arrows,
as well as a flashbomb. And some crates
anyone know if there's anything else of use in the city? I wandered
around for 20 minutes and couldn't really find anything...
Inside Ramirez's manor is kewl, too. I like the secret passageway
in his room, as well as the body storage side room ;o). There's a
room on the first floor - it's between the garden and the area
directly under Ramirez's room - with 4 guards in it. To the right of
this room is a room with 2 peasants; to the left is an open door to
a stairwell. Anyway, malicious bastard that I am, I figured that
since they were, for the most part, looking away from me, I should
blackjack 'em all. There's 2 in the shadows to the left who weren't
much of a problem. One to the right has a key on him, turns around
frequently, and is more in the light, but I got him too. There's a
4th guard who's in the light, but next to some shadows. Oh, by the
way, he's a super-guard; he's dressed all in black and has a bow.
His first shot seems to be a fire arrow, with the rest being normal
(I think someone asked about him on the old board, actually). I
damned near got the taffer, too. Ah well, there's always next
Fun stories, anyone?
whoa... a bit longer than I had intended, but ah well. Oh, btw -
I'm only on Ramirez's mansion on expert, if you hadn't noticed. :-Þ
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| posted February 05, 1999 09:46 AM
Some interesting things I've noticed:
- The blood spot from those little frog things evaporates after
about a minute
- Many, many torches are on their walls/pillars/etc "backwards";
ie, the torch floats in the air near the wall, and their mooring
shaft sticks out into the room, with a small mounting plate at the
end of the shaft.
- If you get high enough, say, on the rooftops of the city, you
no longer make sound as you walk. Coincidentally, I've noticed
that the "frozen floating monsters" appears to be connected with
| posted February 05, 1999 01:33 PM
Did you know you can enter Ramirez' mansion by swimming?
a stream coming out under the mansion wall. Cool alternate route,
| posted February 05, 1999 01:57 PM
A few of my favorite moments are:
1) Running into Bafford's Throne Room, bitch slapping the guard
as I run by, done by running by him and looking at him and when he
reacts you whack him with the blackjack, because he's aware of you
it doesn't do as much damage and is more like a slap, snatching the
sceptre, hauling ass down the corridor and doing a half gainer into
the swimming pool on the first level...I wonder if they will ever
try and follow me.
2) In the prison mission I enjoyed taunting and torturing the
inmates when they tried to give away my position. Also if you go to
the second enterance to the prison, the one that has two guards at
it, instead of the way that has the elevator, its always nice to
sneak up on the two of them, put out the lights, walk up behind the
first one while his buddy is talking to him and knock his ass out.
and then walk right up to the other guard and knock him out as well.
3) How about luring guards into hallways with zombies and then
running away and letting the zombie take care of him? Its a fun
move, wait till the guard sees you, then run away past a zombie and
then keep running so they both lose interest in you and go after
4) Shooting anyboady with a Fire Arrow. =)
5) Taking the last guard on Level 1's carcass and sitting it in
Bafford's Throne. hahaha
6) Stuffing the older guard on the basement level of the "sneak
into the hammerite temple" level into the iron maiden or dropping
him on the rack. Too bad you can't have some fun with him.
7) Seeing the look in the eyes of a guard when you've been
standing behind him for five minutes and he turns around and sees
you with your blackjack ready to bash his poor skull in. Ahhh the
8) Dodging burrick belches as you slaughter them with your sword
and then watch them run away and try to hide as they wimper. Or
better yet, nailing them from a secure location with a couple of
broadhead arrows and watch them whine.
9) After knocking out the three guards on the top floor of the
sword room, dumping their bodies down that cylinder and letting them
sit there for their buddies.
Just a few choice moments...
| posted February 05, 1999 04:12 PM
The black garbed guys at Ramirez are the assasins who you
followed.You can always get all the stuff at Farkazes because they
always stop under the tunnel for about 5 seconds and then continue
on.Grab the flash bombs last,haha or you might give yourself
Some fun things to do at Ramirez.I was able to blackjack
the two guys who talk about monster babysitting in the courtyard
before they left the grass area.
quick enough you can blackjack the two servants outside the
My favorites. Let a guard see you from that second floor
that looks down on the main entrance.Hell come after you.Double back
behind the second hallway wall,wait for him to come up and whack him
full force from behind.You can get in 4 whacks and finish him off
easily.I did this with 3 guards.
Library secret passageway.Jump
up and down in the passageway by the treasure room, then climb down
the ladder and let that guy see you,go back and jump again!When you
here him coming after you,quietly go down the ladder ,go in the
right door to the second section of the treasure room,Whack this guy
from behind, or lure him out and flashbang him and knock him
out.Taunt the guard who is now looking for you in the passageway. He
will leave and come back,so climb up the ladder again.Love messing
with their heads.
| posted February 05, 1999 07:17 PM
Some one on the old board said that on the sword level, if you go
into the bar, you can close the bar door and jump in. I can't find
the door, was wandering if any one else did it? (spoiler) The way I
got to the sword was to stand on the table of the first room on the
left. If you look up, a block in the ceiling is highlighted, click
it and it open up to 2nd floor. Shoot a rope arrow, and do the same
thing for next ceiling. Was just wandering if anyone else did it the
| posted February 05, 1999 07:50 PM
the bar door.
on the inside of the bar (bartender side) there is a small door
with some gold cups down there. in the event a guard sees you, you
can crouch down and climb in and they will walk right by...or you
can thwack their toes with a blackjack =P
| posted February 05, 1999 09:26 PM
Hmm... well, I think my favorite level to screw around with the game
is The Sword. You know that section where you jump on a vine and
climb up to where the sword is suspended and two guards are? Well, I
like to waste the guards with mines, then throw their corpses down
the shaft onto the floor for some poor sap to come across. It's a
riot when you hear the guy come up and say "Hey, are you allright...
no, of course you're not allright. Sorry!" Also, from that nice
shadowy area, you can shoot them with arrows. You can also run
around the floor and let guards see you, then jump up to the vine
again and snipe 'em.
When you go up to the stairwell that leads to the third floor,
only open one door, so in case you don't kill a guard with one shot,
when he runs down to alert his buddies, he'll get caught on the
unopened door and he'll just run there until you waste 'em with a
| posted February 05, 1999 09:53 PM
talon54: The black garbed guys at Ramirez are the assasins who
I dunno... maybe one of em is, but I thwacked
one before he set foot inside, and he looked pretty normal.
Oh, and on the same lev, I found out that you can crush boxes by
falling on them from high enough ;-)
| posted February 06, 1999 03:43 PM
Another fun thing to do in The Sword level is to get guards to chase
you into the long hallway on the second floor with the electricity
trap triggered by the door in the middle of the hall. Duck in, and
then open and close the door to keep triggering the trap. ("I'll get
you, taffer! *Ugh!* Where are you? *Urk!* "You can't hide forever!"
*ARRRGH!* *Thud*) Then you drag his body into the room and go get
another guard to chase you.
Note that this works even on expert level. Apparently, it's OK if
the guards are killed by traps, even if it's you that triggers the
trap. (Close door, open door. "Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that the door
is trapped." Close door, open door, "Oops, I forgot again." Close,
open. "Goodness! Did I do that? Hello? Hello? Tsk."
| posted February 06, 1999 04:16 PM
haha i did that too =P then there was 2 guards in the hallway and
one got thru thru the barrage of fireballs since it's humanly
impossible to open and close the door fast enough to kill 2 guards
| posted February 06, 1999 07:09 PM
Another way to mess around with The Sword:
On the second floor,
drop through that door in the floor in the dining room. You land on
a table. Immediately put out the torch in the room. Any guards that
saw you will go into "looking around for you" mode. You can jump off
the table and blackjack them when they are turned. Then go lead all
the guards in the mansion to that room one by one, jump on the
table, wait, then KO them. The most iv'e gotten is 21 knockouts
(BLACKJACK! hehe) anyone can get higher?
| posted February 06, 1999 09:48 PM
I just finished the entire game, for the 8th time. This time my plan
was to kill everything that moved in each level, except for Into the
Maw. Which I did with a huge amount of success. My number one tip is
save you arrows! Almost all creatures, excluding the undead can be
thwarted without them. As for dealing with the undead, get a bunch
of them close together and waste 'em at the same time, fire and
water arrows hit more than one target (in fact I took out 4 zombies
with one fire arrow in boneyard) and to get ghosts and those dead
hammerites group them together and waste 'em with flash bombs.
I finished with inflicting about 7000 damage and taking only 200.
Not bad eh?
As for 21 knockouts, I think I've gotten over 40. Not sure on an
exact number though.
Where am I?
Oh yeah, in the
| posted February 07, 1999 12:01 AM
The sword level definately has some of the most fun areas to fool
around. When I first did the level, I played it on expert, so I
blackjacked all the guards on the 2nd level above the sword. Then
just jumped onto the ring by the sword, grabbed it and jumped back.
hehe no rope arrows, no force field to turn off... FUN
And if you want to test your Rope arrow aiming skills try this.
Down in the garden area there is a hallway that ends in a dead end
with a torch in it. There is a sliding door in the roof of that
room. You can rope arrow up into that room. and then get into
another room from there. At that point you can see up into that
crazy upside-down room. Shoot a rope arrow into the leg of the
table, or chair, and climb up. I spent at least an hour jumpin
around rope arrows in that area. LOL you can climb most of the way
up that way, and it REALLY works on your precision aiming. FUN!
god I love this game!
| posted February 07, 1999 09:44 PM
On Strange Bedfellows, when you get down in the basement, I like to
run into that sideways pool of water thingie, swim up to the top,
and watch the ratmen come in and drown "like rats".
You spin me right round baby, right round
like a record baby round right round round
| posted February 10, 1999 08:05 AM
Man, I didn't fully appreciate the Ramirez place my 1st time thru -
on normal. It's soooo much fun on expert...
Alternate ways to get
in and out, all kinds of fun hidden stuff, and the guards really
have character in this one. I just beat it on expert about 30 min
ago, and I really underestimated the outside guards... there's just
a lot of 'em! heehee... real fun to sneak/run around a city in the
moonlight, trying to avoid 3 dozen guards, tho. One big problem I
have with Assassins, though: go to the bridge past which you
followed the 2 goons - the metal one that's mad loud. Hop in the
water to the right. Right near where the river goes under the
bridge, there's a ladder to the right (if you're facing the bridge)
that leads to a roughly Garrett-sized opening. Try to climb the
ladder and get into said opening - AFAICT, it's bloody impossible!
You can't crawl, jump, or mantle your way in... grrrrrr....
I apologize for any blatant lack of clarity contained herein. You
may all rest assured that, after 20 or so hours of good sleep, I'll
be back to my usual obtuse self. heesigh...
| posted February 10, 1999 11:28 PM
My personal favorite moment was the first time I played through
Bafford's Mansion.. Sure, I knew that killing everyone and
everything wasn't the entire point, but I did it anyway, just for
the hell of it. (Not by running into the middle of a battle.. I
learned that lesson the hard way.)
After I'd cleaned the place out, I went looking around for
awhile.. taking what I could.. I went into the room just before the
"Throne Room" and took a look around.. Looking up, I thought "Hey,
how fun would it be to climb around on those rafters up there and
drop down on the taffer guardin' this place?" Then I spotted it. A
hole. The magnificent hole.. I didn't quite know where it led, but I
knew I'd get to it somehow..
After wandering around for a good half hour, I still couldn't
find the entrance. Then I realized that you can slash open those
rugs on the walls, and went about slashing every rug I could find,
just to tick Bafford off when he got back. That's when I found
another hole.. on the.. eh.. damn.. I think it's on the north side
of the pool, top floor.. above one of those tree-infested areas.. ah
So after wandering through a small passageway.. I found myself on
top of the rafters. I immediately killed myself (accomplished by
dropping down, then running to and jumping into the big pool) and
started the level anew. When I got to the point that I could get up
to that hole unnoticed, I walked through and up on top of the
rafters, and chuckled with malice, leaping down, blackjacking the
taffer guarding the scepter. Beat the level rather quickly that
way.. and saved me from having to run through the entire place. Try
it sometime.. just be careful. The taffer guardin' the scepter won't
see you (unless you fall) but he will hear you.. and he just might
bang the gong for his buddy out on the marble floor. (Or you can do
it yourself with an arrow, then just turn 'em both into
| posted February 10, 1999 11:39 PM
great, now try it on expert.
| posted February 11, 1999 01:48 AM
Okay, here's one I saw on the old forum and didn't get until
On Bonehoard, the room with the fireball spitting into the
hallway... lure zombies into it... I keep tripping over zombie parts
there now, as I've gotten seven of them just casually running
It saves arrows, it's not illegal, and it's a blast to watch
zombies crumble! (On the second hit they do the 'drowning zombie'
drop, but before they hit blast three makes em go splort!)
Stealing from the rich since 1980!
| posted February 11, 1999 04:34 AM
Here is a cool moment I had in Ramirez mansion. I was walking in the
garden around the mansion, after taking out the bowmen up on the
walls. I thought there were no more guards around so jumped around
and suddenly saw four or five guards coming my direction. I let the
shadows swallow me and as the guards walked by I noticed they were
walking in a line. I thought I try to have some fun, so I followed
after them and started clubbing down the guards one by one. When
only one guard was left, he suddenly jumped around. He probably got
a shock when he saw all his pals lying around on the ground. I
started banging him with my club until he passed out too. And then I
dumped them all in the river and watched them float away...
But I still cant understand how the Hammers can forgive me after
I clubbed their priests to death, robbed their temple (as far as I
know they have not gotten their first hammer back ) and killed
half of their sect.
And when I rescued the High priest on
Bedfellows I tried to strike him with my sword because of all the
trouble he had gotten me in. He yelled out and it eased my temper so
I picked him up. But when I was going to take him back I accidently
dropped him in a campfire when I got attacked by ratmen, and after
that he fell off the raft we were riding and he drowned before I
could get him...
Oh and something I did not know was that gas
arrows take out torches, so you can be really economical by taking
out monsters and torches at the same time...
| posted February 11, 1999 09:20 AM
yeah, hammerites don't seem like the most forgiving sort. i guess
they're just pragmatic...
i thought it was really kewl how right
after you talked to the guys thru the siege window, they ran over to
do battle, then there was the sound of clashing metal and shouts and
all... very nicely done. 'course, they just start randomly wandering
around after that... i think some of em got hit on the head too hard
one more fun thing on assassins: i came up to the kitchen thru
the basement area; there was a peasant in there grumbling about
something. then he picks up a tray and starts to walk down the
stairs towards me. 'course i thunked him after a few steps, and the
tray and food fell out of his hands with a loud clatter. man, i love
the sounds in this game...
| posted February 21, 1999 09:32 PM
I did the same thing and then hid the body.
When I came back to
the kitchen the tray he was carrying was back on the counter though
I couldn't pick it up. Like it was there but not there. Very
| posted February 21, 1999 10:24 PM
One of my favorite things to do is in the assasins mission.When
Ramirez is in his counting room there is a piece of carpet with a
big R on it.When you pull it a servant will come down with a tray of
food for ramirez.I like blackjacking the servant and carrying him
upstairs to the balcony in Ramirezs bedroom and throwing him off and
waiting for the patrols to go bye and notice him and when all the
guards are in a big group throwing a flash bomb down on them then
jumping down and blackjacking them all and then throw them in the
river part just outside the mansion.
| posted March 04, 1999 02:46 PM
Once I was in Farkuses' when he was shot with the arrow, but he
didn't die! He was bloody, but he just stood there whistling as I
took all the arrows and whatever I could hold, and when I got out
side was when the assassins started talking...wierd
| posted March 05, 1999 12:21 AM
Heres something fun I just did in the Bonehoard. I was looking for
the last 15 loot and realized i wasn't gonna find it so I decided to
look for stuff that is easy to find. I collected all the zombie
heads I could find and threw them in a big pile, check that, a big
EVIL pile. I got 24 of them and managed to stack them up 12 high
against the wall.
I still couldn't find that 15 loot though. Where the hell is
| posted March 05, 1999 04:45 AM
At the beginning of the level, there is a little tomb with a cup
worth about 15 loot i think, When you start the level, turn left and
you will see the little building.
| posted March 05, 1999 04:01 PM
Oh crap, I bet thats it. Only problem is I finished all the goals
and when I step outside I get the end mission screen.
BTW, I now managed to stack 28 zombie heads on top of each other
making a giant tower of zombie heads.
Sloth - Pushing envelope of
zombie head stacking to incredible heights. 8^)