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Thread: Battletech - X-COM-alike TBS from Harebrained Schemes

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    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand

    Battletech - X-COM-alike TBS from Harebrained Schemes

    Battletech - X-COM-alike turn-based strategy from Harebrained Schemes, developers of the recent trilogy of Shadowrun SP RPGs.

    The release window is April 2018.



    Steam page
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/637090/BATTLETECH/

    If you're a Kickstarter backer you can recover your Backerkit account for digital rewards like a Paradox forum badge and a 10% off coupon for the Paradox Plaza e-shop.
    https://battletech.backerkit.com/

  2. #2
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    I can't wait to play this. I backed it ages ago. 50% due to how awesome Shadowrun Returns was and 50% due to my love of the Mechwarrior games. From the numerous, highly detailed updates that have gone out, this looks like it has some quality behind it. I hope it turns out to be a fun game and that the singleplayer campaign has some good story behind it.
    Last edited by icemann; 1st Mar 2018 at 20:45.

  3. #3
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    100% looking forward to this.

  4. #4
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    The steam keys went out to backers today. Expect an official release shortly.

  5. #5
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    They're using gender neutral pro-nouns in this game and when you try to give them feedback on the game's Steam forum about it they ban you. I don't give a shit about any identity politics in the game, fuck off with censoring people with opposing viewpoint though.

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    I've seen this game before. Oh, yes, they were totally banned over the innocuous point of disagreement and not the insults and death threats.

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2014
    Looks excellent.

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Hah, "feedback".

    It's just a bunch of manufactured outrage because there's an option to choose a gender neutral pronoun during character customisation.

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Seriously? The option? Yeah. I'm sure the people complaining about that were the absolute picture of calmly rational disagreement.

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Lol why in the hell would they ban people for that? That's just ridiculous. Why did they include gender neutral? That's just stupid.

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    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    I dunno, mechs seem pretty gender neutral to me. (Except for Zone of the Enders, which for some reason has the pilot cockpit in the mech's crotch. Yeah, I don't know either. Ask Kojima.)

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    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    They're using gender neutral pro-nouns in this game and when you try to give them feedback on the game's Steam forum about it they ban you. I don't give a shit about any identity politics in the game, fuck off with censoring people with opposing viewpoint though.
    WOW. I did not believe it when you posted this, so I went and created a topic over on the Steam forum and had my topic removed within 2 minutes and was warned "Violation of community guidelines for trolling."

    How the fuck is that trolling. I'm someone who backed the game and have a question about the design decision.

  13. #13
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    If your question is 'why did you include a neutral gender option?', that pretty much is trolling. J'applaudis.

  14. #14
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Explain that to me as I don't get it.

  15. #15
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Think of it this way: they included it as an option. You can ignore it. Asking 'why did you do this' is a) opening the floodgates for drama they've already dealt with because have you SEEN the lunatic brigade on the Steam forums, and b) makes the people seeing you ask the question want to know why you're asking the question in the first place. It's a lose-lose situation. I'm already re-evaluating exactly how inclusive you seem to be, for instance.

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    In all seriousness, icemann, it is a fundamentally ridiculous complaint. Would you complain that a game has an inverse mouse option that you don't like to use?

    Apparently you didn't get banned, so the original claim is indeed falsified as expected. I imagine they're currently a bit trigger happy from inundation of all you social injustice warriors.

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    I was not aware of past floodgates of drama on Steam due to it.

    Personally I see it as political correctness gone mad. I went and asked the question over there partially due to the earlier post above, and because I've not seen that in a video game before. So it seemed like an odd thing to have in a game. Mass Effect did not have gender neutrality for example. And that game was very accommodating of many peoples choices.

    [edit]
    Tried asking about this topic over on the KS comments thread and got pounced on. People are quite prone to exploding on this topic it seems.
    Last edited by icemann; 24th Apr 2018 at 02:40.

  18. #18
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    I'm not sure why including the option for an 'other' gender is somehow political correctness gone mad - it's not squashing anyone's rights, it's not actively shutting anyone down, it's actually doing the reverse. If you don't want to play as gender neutral, don't. The game's not forcing you to. The dev's merely being more open while also doing it in a way that the game remains the same; that's admirable from any angle, so having a problem here seems like pettiness for the sake of it, or something far worse.

    Like Pyrian said, if a game gives you an inverted mouse option you choose not to use, it's not something you'd complain about. So why complain?

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    There is a big difference between asking and having a problem with something. I was merely asking. But why would I be asking I hear you reply, to which I say "Just to know why" and that is all.

    If Harebrained Schemes replied and said "To be inclusive of all of our audience in today's continually evolving world", that'd be enough for me. I'm not out to argue anyone on the issue, just wanted to know why it was in.

  20. #20
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    If Harebrained Schemes replied and said "To be inclusive of all of our audience in today's continually evolving world", that'd be enough for me. I'm not out to argue anyone on the issue, just wanted to know why it was in.
    That's pretty much it. No fuss. No muss.

    This isn't a slight against you exactly, but asking a somewhat loaded question you already know the answer to in a situation where everyone involved are happily broaching the topic with hairtrigger tempers is kinda asking for trouble. Fortunately, level heads prevailed here, but I imagine were this to happen elsewhere, it'd lead to the usual internet culture war shitstorm.

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    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    There is a big difference between asking and having a problem with something. I was merely asking. But why would I be asking I hear you reply, to which I say "Just to know why" and that is all.
    That doesn't wash because if you think about it, there's only one answer to the question.

    Q) Why would anyone include a gender neutral option in a video game?

    a) because I cut my penis off with a filet knife by accident and want the universe to know my deep and unending pain
    b) because we didn't have enough time to develop our fourth, fifth, and sixth genders that involved tea kettles and lotus seed pod body horror, so we just went with the quick vanilla option
    c) tacos don't have genders, so not having it is being tacoist
    d) because we wanted to be more inclusive

    Which is the correct answer? Nominally, I'd like to give people the benefit of a doubt, but the only non-offensive reasons why someone would ask the question are that they haven't had enough social interaction in their lives, or they couldn't spend half a picosecond to think about it -- which aren't great either.


    Edit: I see you answered the question yourself after that. Good job!

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    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    After the prolonged trolling and baiting and outright hate and bigotry, there is no longer such a thing as merely asking. And this has nothing to do with freedom of speech or censorship of different opinions, it's just a bunch of people being assholes and trying to stir up drama.

  23. #23
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2002
    Location: Pacific Northwest
    It might be easier to argue a ban is ridiculous if the question wasn't asked in bad faith so often. When enough people ask the question solely to open up a vector for their political incorrectness, it's time to bring down the ban hammer.

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    El Shagmeister
    Registered: Jul 2000
    Location: Under your fingernails.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    c) tacos don't have genders, so not having it is being tacoist
    THEY'RE MALE, YOU GENDER POLICE!

    <3

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    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Just great. Now every time I eat one, I'm going to be thinking, '...but this has a penis.'

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