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Thread: Sneaky Upgrade: Unofficial patch for Thief 3

  1. #1551
    New Member
    Registered: Nov 2019

    Background music issue

    I've got this weird issue where the background music, which I've set to 0, cranks all the way up to max when I make a save. Sometimes it fades out again after a while, and sometimes it goes back to 0 instantly when entering another room/area. Any idea what is causing this?

    Video of the phenomenon:
    https://youtu.be/9c758P-KXbQ

    Log file:
    http://www.helbo.se/Sneaky.log

    Save file:
    http://helbo.se/59D51D01-149B3EB4-DD...0-99BF5CE8.rar

    The log file is from a different session/installation than the save file, if this is an issue for troubleshooting I can provide a new log file.
    But I've tried uninstalling/installing both the SU and the game itself multiple times with no change in the behavior.

  2. #1552
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    Thanks for the uploads - I should probably have made a quick test before asking for those, because as it turns out it's an original bug. (You can start the unpatched game from the "Thief 3 Sneaky Upgrade" start menu group if you want to see for yourself.)

    I'll have a look and if it's an easy fix, post some new files here. Otherwise it'll have to wait for the next release.

  3. #1553
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by snobel View Post
    Otherwise it'll have to wait for the next release.
    Do not forget to update Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex Invisible War too!

  4. #1554
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    I know, I know...

  5. #1555
    Member
    Registered: May 2015
    With this mod active the inputs tab in the options is just a black screen.

  6. #1556
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    Do you have the Fonts and MP GUI mods enabled and an aspect ratio no wider than 16:10? If so, it's a known problem with the new MP fonts. As a work-around, disable one of the mods while changing keybinds.
    Last edited by snobel; 24th Nov 2019 at 05:31.

  7. #1557
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2003
    Quote Originally Posted by lowenz View Post
    Do not forget to update Visible Upgrade for Deus Ex Invisible War too!

    Didin't know about this! Where is a link to this Visible Upgrade?

  8. #1558
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by Shimonhead View Post
    Didin't know about this! Where is a link to this Visible Upgrade?
    https://www.moddb.com/mods/deus-ex-2-visible-upgrade

  9. #1559
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Location: Where you live
    Seems yummie. Makes me wanna reinstall that game.

  10. #1560
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    It is

    And use a DX8 wrapper (dgVoodoo2 -> http://dege.freeweb.hu/dgVoodoo2/dgVoodoo2_62_3.zip or Crosire one -> https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases )

  11. #1561
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Or, if you prefer, the UCyborg hacked "original" d3d8 (MicroSoft one from Window 10 Build 17134 ): https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=47772

  12. #1562
    New Member
    Registered: Jun 2016
    How can I get Thief SU to run fullscreen on Win10? I recently got an Asus ROG with RTX 2060. When I load or start a game, it stays on a black screen. No loading screen. But it runs fine it windowed/borderless, but the brightness setting is broken.

  13. #1563
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by anlat View Post
    How can I get Thief SU to run fullscreen on Win10? I recently got an Asus ROG with RTX 2060. When I load or start a game, it stays on a black screen. No loading screen. But it runs fine it windowed/borderless, but the brightness setting is broken.
    It's normal cause it's how Windows 10 now handles D3D context. There's no more "real fullscreen" in Windows 10, NO MORE (and no more issues related to it).
    There is the infamous "Borderless Windowed Fullscreen" (a maximized window with no window manager borders) and the "Exclusive Fullscreen" acting as a fake version of the old fullscreen mode of Window 7.

    For d3d8-era applications you must use a wrapper to make brightness/contrast/gamma controls work, see my posts above!

    And of course install the Sneaky Upgrade (but do not use its wrapping technique if you are using external wrappers).
    Last edited by lowenz; 10th Feb 2020 at 07:49.

  14. #1564
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by lowenz View Post
    It is

    And use a DX8 wrapper (dgVoodoo2 -> http://dege.freeweb.hu/dgVoodoo2/dgVoodoo2_62_3.zip or Crosire one -> https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases )
    2.63.1 now

    http://dege.freeweb.hu/dgVoodoo2/dgVoodoo2.html

  15. #1565
    New Member
    Registered: Jun 2016
    Quote Originally Posted by lowenz View Post
    It's normal cause it's how Windows 10 now handles D3D context. There's no more "real fullscreen" in Windows 10, NO MORE (and no more issues related to it).
    There is the infamous "Borderless Windowed Fullscreen" (a maximized window with no window manager borders) and the "Exclusive Fullscreen" acting as a fake version of the old fullscreen mode of Window 7.

    For d3d8-era applications you must use a wrapper to make brightness/contrast/gamma controls work, see my posts above!

    And of course install the Sneaky Upgrade (but do not use its wrapping technique if you are using external wrappers).
    I have the latest version of SU installed. Would Voodoo fix the brightness issue? Is it the same as DX8? Or should I use both? I'm still a novice at the wrapping.

  16. #1566
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by anlat View Post
    I have the latest version of SU installed. Would Voodoo fix the brightness issue? Is it the same as DX8? Or should I use both? I'm still a novice at the wrapping.
    dgVoodoo2 for sure.
    And you'll have a nice control panel to configure the "virtual" GPU behaviour as you wish.

    Mutual exclusion.
    dgVoodoo2 is a wrapper to d3d11 (it's kind of "pseudodriver"), the other is the original MicroSoft Win10 d3d8.dll patched to re-enable the "old" expected behaviour.

    Another option (this one wraps to d3d9) "simply drag&drop": https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases

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