Meanwhile, in Russia, 19-year-old terrorists are not letting Russia wage war in peace:
Similar things are happening in Moscow where the brave Z-police caught a 15-year-old in the act of placing a flower in front of a statue:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...itic-arrested/
Soon after the explosion on the Crimean Bridge in October, a 19-year-old Russian student, Olesya Krivtsova, posted an Instagram story criticizing Russia’s war in Ukraine.
Her fellow students at Northern Federal University, in the northern city of Arkhangelsk, took a screenshot of the Instagram story as well as of Krivtsova’s antiwar comments shared in a small chatroom on the Telegram messaging app and reported her to the authorities.
Three months later, Russian officials deemed that sufficient to add Krivtsova to a list of terrorists and extremists, on par with the Islamic State, al-Qaeda and the Taliban, and to charge her with discrediting the Russian army under laws adopted last March to stifle public criticism of the war.
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https://twitter.com/k_sonin/status/1616619160779325441
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Just fascist madness, it was SO common here in Italy and in Germany (and in Franco Spain).
You know "supporting the state".....for hate or just for having someone killed for fun (like in swatting).
Or just for hiding the plain truth:
When you get a giant state as Russia with an imperial past and imperial ambitions becoming fascist, you realize that WWII was nothing.
Last edited by lowenz; 22nd Jan 2023 at 13:11.
Remember Igor Mangushev, the Russian neo-Nazi who paraded around on stage with what he claimed was a skull of an Ukrainian soldier? Apparently, Ukrainian climate has not been good for his health, for he seems to have come down with a case of a pistol bullet finding its way into his skull from behind at a 45-degree downward angle. This hasn't been officially confirmed, but there are some bloody pictures of him on a hospital bed and he has stopped updating his Telegram channel. As rumors go, this happened at a Russian checkpoint not anywhere near the front.
Yeeeeah that sounds like an execution.
Can't very well have an proper authoritarian state unless the main targets of your purges are your closest ideological allies.
Well, who knowns who he came in conflict with, but, to draw some comparisons, when the recent head of Russia's space agency and one time deputy prime minister Rogozin was hit by Ukrainian artillery as he was partying in Donetsk, apparently his location was relayed to Ukrainians by his rivals. Chaos is a ladder, after all.
Signs of trouble for the Wagner mercenary group:
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...23132528779264
Apparently, they've also been cut off from their prisoner recruit supply, with the Russian MOD taking them for themselves. Might have something to do with Prigozhin having been pretty popular lately in Russia. Some say even, too popular.
Perun has really outdone himself this time -- a slideshow presentation that's part an assessment of Russia's strategic goals and part a history lesson:
Today (February 20) is aniversary of the bloody events, that happened during 2nd Maidan (Revolution of Dignity or Euro-maidan) in 2014:
clashes in Kyiv between protesters and Berkut special riot police resulted in the deaths of 108 protesters and 13 police officers, and the wounding of many others.
#BABYLON'13 (video documentary project, that was created during these events) provided their documental video about the chronology of the Revolution of Dignity from the inside. Video already contain English subtitles.
Stronger than arms:
Russian invasion, how it started...
https://twitter.com/mironov_fm/statu...58844081598467
How it's going...
https://twitter.com/prof_preobr/stat...19788091494402
That's a powerful documentary about the Maidan.
It's so absurd for Putin & the Russian war machine to think these people don't even really exist, as if Ukrainians don't have free will and the whole thing must be some US orchestrated Hollywood production. Most Americans couldn't find Ukraine on a map and the US political establishment stopped caring about East Europe almost as soon as the Cold War was over.
But it's so clear from that documentary that it's the Ukrainians themselves that wanted rule of law and a functioning democracy, that they wanted to be a part of Team Europe where those things mean something and not Team Russia where those things are a joke, and that they built that entire movement from the grassroots up.
Putin knows that "IT'S THE NATO" is bogus argument. It's just the classic imperialistic-irredentist war.....200 years later but the NATO argument is really powerful among european AND american far rights (and far lefts).
Always remember: Russia="we are the third Rome, we are the civiliZation at its finest so we have the right to do whatever it takes to bring order" (to subjects)
It really comes down to this and nothing more. That's the russian elite mindset and it will remain for centuries IF they don't lose this war BADLY. Just like Germany 80 years ago.
And always remember that lagers are NOT a german invention, they were a german adaptation of russian pogroms: it's NOT by chance, just read the kaiser Wilhelm II way before the austrian painter.....
Last edited by lowenz; 23rd Feb 2023 at 14:21.
...Originally Posted by lowenz
...Beer?
Not the beer.
He means, like, konzentrationslager... which were not really a Russian invention either, having been used by various European powers in Philippines, South Africa, Cuba, etc.
Yes but I've said "just read the kaiser Wilhelm II", 'cause (from wikipedia)
Wilhelm advocated a "regular international all-worlds pogrom à la Russe" as "the best cure" and further believed that Jews were a "nuisance that humanity must get rid of some way or other. I believe the best thing would be gas!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhel...German_Emperor
That somehow reminds me I wrote a whole paper in lawschool on the famous Reinheitsgebot (beer purity) case in Bavaria, where the state law didn't allow you to call a drink beer if it had "chemicals". (They were no doubt thinking about British and American beers which they thought should more properly be called schaum Pißwasser.) It's an interesting case. When you read it and all the commentary, in the back of your mind you can't help but keep thinking sooo... is nobody gonna talk about what happens when Bavarians start talking about legally sanctioning things based on their purity? =V
Granted beer is special there. And lest one think I'm unfairly taking the Piß out of Deutschland, I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon that after being off of American food and drink for a good number of years, when I do have them they're practically inedible & inimbibable they're so unnaturally chemical-y.
Well, we're supposed to be taking the моча out of Россия in this thread anyway, and it's doing a good job of deserving it lately. Every country is worth its own dedicated piss thread anyway. There's always enough to go around.
Last edited by demagogue; 23rd Feb 2023 at 20:20.
Just let me show you how russians can be so stupidely italian, being italian myself, about "patriotism".
With a guitar and a folk touch, for babushka
note: the "great" Kolorev in the end - the bust decorated with medals - was sent to gulag and his memory "saved" by the same man that.....has given the Donetsk region to Ukraine.
Maybe the average russian celebrating the russian Von Braun doesn't know this......
And just don't let me say anything about NOT the childish nuclear weapons glorification but the fact that:
1) the video is on youtube (evil western satanic-driven russophobe corporations.....)
2) every tool used to record the video AND in the video is designed for the english-speaking market.....the very same patch "Army of Ska" of the "patriotic singer" is in english ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKA_Saint_Petersburg )
Last edited by lowenz; 24th Feb 2023 at 03:41.
The comments in that video are turned off now, but they were pure gold when I read them. The song didn't go over quite as well with Youtube visiting Russians as they thought.
They were doing things like adding song lyrics in Russian in the vein of...
Eh, Mother Russia
crumbling down is the hut
but at least we have Sarmat
The only words I could understand were 'kontainer', 'komplex', 'ruski', 'matushka' and 'babushka'. Is he singing about his grandma's nuclear meatloaf, how it needed a complicated container?
Just add Sarmat-ushka and United Stat-ushka and you basically got the gist of it.
Now Medvedev is openly talking about pushing back Poland's borders.
Are these guys insane?
Do they want to start a world war?
Maybe they think China and the U.S. will be forced to duke it out and they'll be the ones left standing?
What the hell is wrong with them?
I remember reading (and hearing in Snyder's recent course) that one of the most important events in the end of the Cold War was Poland's decision, anyway Solidarity's decision already in the mid-1980s, to support the separate independent nationality of Ukraine and disclaim any claim over west Ukraine (even though it'd actually been Polish for a big chunk of its history). I think I posted about it before.
In the big scheme of things it made sense. Supporting the territorial integrity of Ukraine was gonna support the territorial integrity of Poland in the long run.
What's interesting about that statement from Medvedev is it's like the loony mirror image of that thinking, proving they were right on point. If Ukraine isn't a real country, how secure are the Baltic states and even former Eastern Bloc countries? Those ultranationalists' delusional magic-thinking makes non-entities out of every country around them, even 30% of their own population which isn't even Russian.
Regarding the latter, as already the attack on Georgia showed, not very secure at all. Regarding the former, I think the last year (and our historical experience) has made it pretty clear that we cannot simply depend on NATO forces coming to our aid, because when they eventually get here, it will be too late.
For them they're subjects, not real person-citizens.
When they attacck "liberalism" they DON'T attack in reality the economic side of liberalism (that's for their propaganda in Europe, to sell us "friendship for the people oppressed by evil satanic ANGLO-SAXONScorporations" being russian corporations somehow holy, LOL), they attack the liberal conception of the citizen as a person.
It's the core of the fascism vision for the world: not persons, just subjects.
OBEY and all will be fine......unless a war starts, and we need meat for the (of course "SAINT" - here's why they're so fond of traditional values, no matter if christian or islamic) grinder.
In all of this they're backed by *STUPID* US republicans (and all the far right populistic movements in Europe) not even realizing that they have been hijkacked to serve what you can figure as romulans of the planet Earth.....
Last edited by lowenz; 26th Feb 2023 at 03:35.
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