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Thread: Thief Gold Remastered Movies

  1. #26
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Another filtering complete.
    640x480 30fps
    589Mb

    Now I need remastered audio tracks.

  2. #27
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2007
    Location: Angelwatch
    Gimme a few days. I've got some appointments this coming week.

  3. #28
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Any news?

  4. #29
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2007
    Location: Angelwatch
    Finally had time to deal with this. Basically did three steps:
    1. Simple resampling to CD quality (44 kHz, 16 bit, Stereo). I wasn't sure whether to pick 44 kHz or 48 kHz. 44 kHz would be simple doubling of the original sample rate (22 kHz) and thus avoiding round-off errors, but 48 kHz would be native sample rate of most gaming sound cards and thus direct sound...
    2. Noise removal based on a shaped dither noise, similar to the one they used in the original downgrading process
    3. Frequency restortion using Acoustica's built-in tools.

    I have an A-B comparison here:
    http://www.jaybmusic.net/Upload/play...Restortion.mp3

    It switches every five seconds. Seconds 0-5 is original, 5 to 10 is restored.
    Last edited by Child Of Karras; 20th Apr 2015 at 19:17.

  5. #30
    Wow. That's is a marked improvement. Is there really so much hiss in the originals?

    Quote Originally Posted by Akven View Post
    P.P.P.S. Maybe I'll filter Thief 2 movies in time, but I didn't finished my Thief Gold walkthrough
    Yes please! It would be great to have two sets of movies with better sound and image quality suitable for larger monitors.

  6. #31
    Member
    Registered: Jun 1999
    Location: Procrastination, Australia
    I think the original videos all had 8bit audio, like everything else in the game (or lower. Speech to a compressed 4bit format if I recall). So it's quite the hissy experience with all the dither noise.

  7. #32
    Member
    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    well since i usually have the most outdated comp out of most people i know my screen size is 1600/900 hp s2031 series wide LCD screen,so that should be minimum i would guess

  8. #33
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    First post updated. I completed second version of refiltering, with the help of Child Of Karras on sound. Download link in first post.
    Last edited by Akven; 24th Apr 2015 at 02:39.

  9. #34
    Sneaky Upgrader
    Registered: May 2007
    It looks like ffmpeg was used to decode the movies before filtering and re-encoding? While ffmpeg can do that it's not very good at it, as this comparison against the original Indeo codec shows:


    Also, there's trouble with the frame interpolation in some scenes, e.g. the sword in CS06.avi. It's the sort of thing that is quite annoying once you've spotted it.

    Other than that, good job both of you.

  10. #35
    New Member
    Registered: Aug 2014
    Location: Russia

    There is a my audio restoration. Coming soon in August-September.

    https://soundcloud.com/musictaffer/b01

    Last edited by musictaffer; 4th Jul 2015 at 08:16.

  11. #36
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2007
    Location: Angelwatch
    Nice noise reduction. What did you use for that?

  12. #37
    New Member
    Registered: Aug 2014
    Location: Russia
    Quote Originally Posted by Child Of Karras View Post
    Nice noise reduction. What did you use for that?
    Audition CS6 + iZotope RX3 + original samples from RES/snd.crf/SFX.

    Upd. Intro is done https://soundcloud.com/musictaffer/thief-gold-intro
    Last edited by musictaffer; 18th Jul 2015 at 01:12.

  13. #38
    New Member
    Registered: Aug 2014
    Location: Russia

    I did it!

    https://dropmefiles.com/URsxA
    http://www.filedropper.com/movies

    The archive contains the original movies with the restored audio tracks (PCM 44.1 kHz/16 bit).
    Last edited by musictaffer; 1st Oct 2015 at 05:15.

  14. #39
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2002
    Location: Saint-Petersburg, Russia
    There's something important I should tell. Movies in Thief The Dark Project are in MUCH higher quality!

    Here's what I mean. The files simply re-used in Thief Gold are the same. But if there's a movie that was somehow adjusted, for example, added credits to the original credit roll, the Thief 1 file was taken, then some new parts were added, and it was re-compressed with much worse quality! I mean MUCH worse!

    So It's a good idea to go back to the original files and compare them. Probably you'll have to make your own edit of Thief Gold movies, taking parts from both versions.

    Also, Josh "Robotkid" once uploaded some Thief intros on his youtube channel, ripped from VHS they used as a promo. I remember the video with "Thief" letters is recorded with real 30 fps! I compared frame-to-frame with the game version - the game has only 15, every second frame cut.

    I can upload all that stuff for you if you want. I've used some filters, upscalers and frame interpolators in my interview video, trying to make the best view of each scene.

    Last edited by Valet2; 3rd Oct 2015 at 05:02.

  15. #40
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by musictaffer View Post
    I did it!

    https://dropmefiles.com/URsxA
    http://www.filedropper.com/movies

    The archive contains the original movies with the restored audio tracks (PCM 44.1 kHz/16 bit).
    Could you please reupload your files. I'll mix them with my videos.
    Перезалей, плиз, ссылки стухли уже))

  16. #41
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by Valet2 View Post
    There's something important I should tell. Movies in Thief The Dark Project are in MUCH higher quality!
    I'll try and check both versions. Just need some time. And HDD space)))

  17. #42
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Ok, I checked files.
    The only real different files are B10.avi and INTRO.avi.
    Intro had different logo in the end. And B10 had redesigned beginning with different quotes.
    And CREDITS.avi

    There are some different files like B09, CS06, DEATH, SUCCESS. But all I can see - they just had a different blackout section - a few seconds longer.

    And I can't find any worse quality compared between The Dark Project and Gold editions. The only case is logo part of the Intro.

    So I can filter B10 and Intro if you need, just to finish the job.
    And I also can filter "Making of" movie.

  18. #43
    New Member
    Registered: Jul 2007
    Any update on the filtering and remastering of the Dark Project versions of B10.avi and INTRO.avi (the one with the original 'dark project' logo at the end)? How about the Thief 2 videos?

    Thanks for all your hard work, the remastered videos and audio really make a difference and fit in perfectly with the HD Texture Mods for both games.

  19. #44
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2008
    Location: http://thief-forum.pl/
    Thank you from my site, too. I am interested in TMA remastered movies as well. Is that already done?

  20. #45
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by Mixthoor View Post
    Thank you from my site, too. I am interested in TMA remastered movies as well. Is that already done?
    Well. It seems I was out in the world of real life for a few years))
    But I think I can do something with Thief 2 if it is still necessary.

  21. #46
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    I have remastered originals from Thief The Dark Project on my HDD. Will upload them as soon as I choose what to do with the sound.

  22. #47
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Ok, done
    http://ge.tt/1RIzwfs2

    I uploaded files from the original Thief: The Dark Project
    INTRO.avi
    B10.avi
    CREDITS.avi

    All remastered like I did with the Thief Gold Movies (filtered 640x480, 30fps etc). Intro different from the Thief Gold version only in the name of the game at the end of the movie. B10 has more changes. Credits completely different.

    Also I included filtered version of Making of Thief (720x536 mkv) that was on the Thief Gold CD if I am not mistaken.

  23. #48
    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    You just can't stop yourself calling them remastered, can you.

    Words mean things. These are very nearly the opposite of remastered.

  24. #49
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    It's just a word. I doubt anyone will ever create real "remastered" videos for Thief.

    We are calling the filtered sound by Child Of Karras remastered - but it is not a "real" remaster - and no one ever pointing it at him. But it's just resample and noise reduction.

  25. #50
    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Words don't matter... whataboutism... two wrongs make a right... you're just a basket of fallacies today.

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