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Thread: THREAD OF DISAPPOINTMENT AND HATE

  1. #126
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    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    Quote Originally Posted by Cipheron View Post
    Let's face it: that symbol now means the coup attempt to overthrow American democracy. Neutrality on the symbol now means you're staking a position of impartiality on whether USA should become a fascist junta or remain a representative democracy.
    I hold out some hope that American conservatism's turn toward radicalism is ultimately self-defeating, but it's scary to be part of a country that's taken so many steps on the road to fascism.

  2. #127
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    PS5 update: my refund is processing; should have it any day now.

    And in the meantime, I got a notification that Costco had bundles in stock, so fuck it! Bought one. Here we go again! This time with a doorbell camera that I installed on the weekend

  3. #128
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    Still time for a xmas miracle.

  4. #129
    Brethren
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Docks
    The nice thing about ordering from Amazon on expensive stuff is you can have it delivered to a locker at a nearby Whole Foods or something similar, and then just pick it up there.

  5. #130
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    Playstation arrived safe and sound, finally, although the replacement courier, UPS, just left it on my doorstep without ringing the bell or leaving a slip despite the fact that it clearly said that a signature was required on the tracking app. So hear's a last sloshing of disappointment and hatred over all of the American courier companies (Canada Post is the only delivery service that's been reliable this year). But much love for the PS5 itself, that I'll talk about in the nice thread <3

  6. #131
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    If you want to see some karma, there's a guy who makes glitter/stink bombs for package thieves every year:

    Last edited by Starker; 14th Dec 2021 at 11:19.

  7. #132
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by june gloom View Post
    I'd say citation needed but I know that you won't present any meaningful evidence of this, just anecdotes and biased conjecture and bad-faith readings and general absurd reactionary paranoia... over a racist symbol.
    My stance was already clear, it was about being against censorship absolutely. (Modders uncensored the flag in the end, so it was a non-issue.)
    Quote Originally Posted by june gloom View Post
    Why don't you get mad about something that actually matters? You earlier brought up the way subsequent releases of GTA remove licensed music -- why aren't you more mad about that? Why don't you get mad about how Rockstar treats its employees? (Or Ubisoft... or Blizzard!?) Or hell, you even touch on the fact that the industry is prone to flooding the market with the flavor of the month (zombie survival games, battle royales, soulslikes, roguelikes, Amnesia clones, basically anything that tastes like money) -- but you'll never have the insight as to why that is.

    There are so many things wrong with the gaming industry, but the stuff you choose to get upset about is so minor. I guess that's what this thread's for, but jeez.
    Whataboutisms fallacy and an attempt at trivialising concerns by invoking First World Problems meme. Yeah nah, I'm not going to bite.

    (Modders restored the removed licensed tracks, BTW.)

  8. #133
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    Again I was right, censorship of GTA trilogy PS2 remasters confirmed. The Confederate flag has been removed from Phil Cassidy's shirt in Vice City.

    The days of Rockstar behaving like rock stars and trying to sell on controversy are long over. They're afraid of upsetting the establishment like everybody else.
    https://files.catbox.moe/zza16c.png
    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    What else could be censored? Radio station and/or billboards satirical content? Picking up hookers? The little that some people seem to care about game preservation and/or artistic expression when it comes to games is astounding.

    Whatever, people who support censorship like this get the industry that they deserve. No skin off my back, I own the originals on several platforms.
    Oh hey, I was right once again. If Bloomberg's leaks are true, Rockstar are too afraid to act like rock stars.

    It is also rumored along with these changes that the developer team is being cautious not to “punch down” by making jokes about “marginalized groups”, which is a stark contrast from the previous entries in the franchise. Again, these are all rumors as more information comes out from known sources with some healthy skepticism attached.
    https://nichegamer.com/grand-theft-a...female-protag/
    Since the release of the GTA PS2 trilogy "Definitive Edition" remasters came out, the recent PS5/Xb Series remaster of GTA 5 had "transphobic jokes" censored.
    The content seemingly removed from the GTA V next gen release was first discovered over on Reddit, where a user noticed the Captain Spacetoy action figure that had “interchangeable genitalia” has been removed entirely in the next-gen ports.

    Other users noticed several “Drag Queen” NPCs that used to spawn outside of Cockatoos, an in-game club, are no longer appearing in game.

    “In new-gen GTAV/GTAO, Rockstar appear to have disabled the trans caricatures or ‘drag queens’ from spawning outside Cockatoos,” Rockstar Games community admin Kirsty Cloud said.
    https://nichegamer.com/content-seemi...e-transphobia/

    The creatives who made Rockstar SP campaigns the iconic games (eg Sam Houser, who co-wrote all of the games since GTA 3, Lazlow Jones) they were left after RDR 2. Rockstar purged the "toxic" elements from their management, i.e. likely the people with some talent (People who're good at the jobs often become cocky assholes).The Rockstar of even a decade ago would've made fun of everyone, GTA of old was like South Park, they made fun of EVERYBODY. The soul of the studio is gone. I fully expect only "safe targets" will made fun of GTA 6, eg straight white people and Christians. GTA 6 will undoubtedly be a massive success, likely a billion $ earner, but it'll likely also be a watershed moment that marks the decline for the publisher.
    Last edited by EvaUnit02; 11th Aug 2022 at 20:28.

  9. #134
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Good.

  10. #135
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    What a weird set of things to be upset about.
    I'm mostly hoping that the game will be good, not really sure what confederate flags and drag queens specifically add to games which makes the difference between good and bad.
    Other than you being annoyed, how does this mark the publisher's decline?

  11. #136
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by faetal View Post
    What a weird set of things to be upset about.
    I'm mostly hoping that the game will be good, not really sure what confederate flags and drag queens specifically add to games which makes the difference between good and bad.
    Other than you being annoyed, how does this mark the publisher's decline?
    Where have you been for the last 20+ years? Satirising every aspect of American society has been the soul of the GTA series since at least the PS2 entries. Everybody was a target. Censorship is the antithesis of comedy.

    As for decline of the publisher, we usually don't get to witness the damage left behind by hugely divisive products until the NEXT ONE comes out. Eg Solo: A Star Wars Story being a financial bomb in the wake of The Last Jedi.

  12. #137
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Servers for Babylon's Fall being turned off less than a year after release. Ouch, what a flop! Another L for Platinum Games and Squeenix.

  13. #138
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Bungie revive their Marathon IP just to make a MP extraction shooter (Escape from Tarkov clone).

    What a massive L! Hard skip.


  14. #139
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    I watched the whole Sony showcase yesterday (okay, I was at work), and I don't think I'll ever do that again. What a long, dreary hour of boring CGI trailers. I was really hoping they'd show off some big VR titles, but instead it was almost entirely games that've already been announced. At least we're getting the full RE4 remake in VR.

  15. #140
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    SO.

    There's a new Prince of Persia game coming, the first mainline title since PoP: Forgotten Sands nearly a decade and a half ago.

    It looks like this:



    Pardon my français, mais c'est Prince of Persia ou Prince de la Putain? Casse-toi, Ubi. Merde!

    So a 2.5D hack and slash game without the intricate platforming or the prince. I wouldn't be surprised if this was an original game that was just slammed into the PoP IP because some Ubisoft execs had nothing better to do. The moment you ignore the PoP part of the title, it just looks like an incredibly generic, if colourful, action game.

    At the very fucking least they could have used some Iranian hip-hop as a backing track to make this not seem like the most cursory of 'radcool thing the kids would be into', but I guess no one at Ubisoft thinks about putting actual effort into their cookie-cutter presentations any more.
    Last edited by Sulphur; 9th Jun 2023 at 00:37.

  16. #141
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    NVIDIA RTX 4090 can run ARK: Survival Ascended with 60fps at Native 4K only at Low Settings
    So I've got some idea now why most of the UE5 games so far run like shit and need to be propped up by upscaling tech (eg DLSS). The Lumen lighting system is RAY TRACING tech. RT is such a fxcking meme.

  17. #142
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Night in the Woods co-creators' next game cancelled amid "serious health issues"

    I'm glad that they're looking after themselves and their health first and foremost, even if this does hurt: Night in the Woods is one of my favourite games ever*, it's definitely one of a very small number of games that have affected me most and that I remember the most vividly, and Bethany Hockenberry and Scott Benson are unique voices. The medium is poorer without them IMO, and I wish them and the other members of Glory Studio only the best.

    *Night in the Woods was very much about storytelling by means of the medium of games, and it's definitely not the kind of game for people where gameplay must come first and everything else is secondary at best. I'd still very much argue that what it does and its effectiveness at doing this is in no small part due to it being a game.

  18. #143
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Disappointed, but I understand that health and well-being are more important in the larger scheme of things. I hope they get every chance to get better.

    I love NitW also, and was looking forward to this one, because that experience sunk its hooks deep into me. I still have the 'proximity friendship' conversation lodged in my head, of all things (but also one of Mae's first conversations with Gregg, who has cups on his ears). I think the entire game in retrospect had a quiet desperation about it that was entirely too relatable, and I don't mean in the English way - a lot of its characters had already semi-resigned themselves to their fates, digging down deep into their fears in the process. That's powerful shit for a game full of quip-happy, breezy conversations. I'd say that it's powerful because of them, even.

  19. #144
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    GOOD NEWS: Eidos Montreal has been working on a new Deus Ex game for the last 2 years!

    BAD NEWS: It's been cancelled and a bunch of people are being laid off!

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-ex-video-game

    GOD DAMN IT

  20. #145
    Brethren
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Docks
    Well guess we won't be getting a new Thief game anytime soon.

  21. #146
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2004
    Some might even say the new Thief game has been...

    *puts on sunglasses*

    ...stolen from us!

    *puts on sunglasses*

    YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAA-

  22. #147
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Speaking of disappointment and hate, I'm almost sure I'd hate a new Thief game.
    So I don't think of this as a bad thing.
    Besides the Black Parade was the best new Thief game that anyone could have hoped for.

  23. #148
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Arkane Studios would be fantastic at creating a modern Thief, I think - but it's sadly unlikely to happen.

  24. #149
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2006
    Location: On the tip of your tongue.
    Not if Redfall is anything to go by.

  25. #150
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Oh, yeah. I played the demo for that Prince of Persia game. It's all right. There's this feature that I've been reading people wanting in comments for years, the ability to pin a screenshot to a map - and this one lets you do it. It is very neat.

    Apart from that, the gameplay's fine, the platforming is slightly better than serviceable, the combat is what you'd expect in our ongoing indiemetroidocene epoch, and it looks okay. Like a pretty swish and stylish mid-2010s title. It's all right.

    But this is the thread of disappointment and hate: so, from what I played, it still isn't goddamn Prince of Persia (read both figuratively and literally - you're not the prince, though there's definitely a lot of Persia in it, set in a mythical Iranian mountain and all). And yes, I'm aware Mechner likes it and responded to that exact point, but I think I'd like him to get back on design for the franchise someday, because what I'm really complaining about, and have been for the past decade and more, is that Ubisoft's attempts at the franchise have never been great without him, and video gaming needs more of him in it.

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