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Thread: Thief 2 Refiltered Movies v1

  1. #1
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    Registered: Feb 2012

    Thief 2 Refiltered Movies v1

    Good evening.
    I did video filtering and fps conversion for Thief 2 like I did with Thief Gold (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145255).

    Thief 2 movies already 640x480 - and it's the maximum NewDark engine can render (anything else get downscaled during playback).
    So I just converted movies from 15 fps to 30fps via InterFrame2 AviSynth plugin for much smoother playback.
    I also refiltered videos with noise reduction, antialiasing for pixelated lines and correction of compression errors (squares in fades areas).
    Refiltered movies are coded with x264 in avi container

    Thief 2 Refiltered Movies v1
    http://ge.tt/9mssZqs2
    or
    https://mega.nz/#!PxFkxCzK!F5zNDI-fo...UUpHr37a3hs3NE

    I didn't do anything with the original sound. I am still waiting for Child of Karras for sound resampling from 22kHz to 44kHz and noise filtering. Of course, I could resample on my own, but I lack knowledge on sound filtering and quality.
    Last edited by Akven; 4th Jun 2019 at 03:31. Reason: Refiltering Done

  2. #2
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    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: WearyTaffer
    Quote Originally Posted by Akven View Post
    Good evening.
    I have some plans on doing video filtering and fps conversion for Thief 2 like I did with Thief Gold (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145255).

    The thing is - Thief 2 movies already 640x480 - and it's the maximum NewDark engine can render (everything else get downscaled during playback). So - is there is any point in this?
    In my opinion - fps is terrible (15 fps). It could be converted to 30fps via InterFrame2 AviSynth plugin for smoother playback.
    Sound is terrible (22.05 kHz 8 bit PCM) - but I don't have knowledge in sound filtering - so I need someone like Child Of Karras to do it for me.
    Image quality either not so good - it would be nice to do noise reduction and antialiasing.
    As always - refiltered movies would be x264 in avi container

    Well, somebody interested?
    Sounds cool!

  3. #3
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    Registered: Feb 2012
    Ok, here is a sample of mission B10

    http://ge.tt/1IidIhs2

    You could run two instances of Media Player Classic and compare original and filtered videos in one playback.
    30fps filtered version is much smoother than 15fps original. Also there is less noise and compression errors.

  4. #4
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    Registered: Nov 2004
    Location: Germany
    Cool idea! I can't download the file. You need to create an account if you want to download files. Can you upload it on google drive please?

  5. #5
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    Registered: Feb 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko View Post
    Cool idea! I can't download the file. You need to create an account if you want to download files. Can you upload it on google drive please?
    Done
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_b...ZkYUVHwf71UdDO

  6. #6
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    Registered: Feb 2012
    Updated first post, filtering complete

  7. #7
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    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    depending on when you started thief "i started with thief 1 so i liked how the cutscene played out,i felt gold ruined how thief 1 felt in mission order

    so once that get debated on what is best to use for videos then we need to see t1/g nd t2 and t3 videos all redone to maximum performance on one video on you tube so no one has to download anything and it will be hosted by youtube=free cost to maker,then it will be a complete series 1-3

    screw 2014 remake

    the 2 cellphone thief games were more cannon then 2014

    but great job with my new hd monitor with led lighting they look amazing but hard to say what would be best format to view ,it should be based on monitor resolution,i have a 24w hp so i like the panoramic view where there is a back bar along top and bottom,where you see more of the left and right compared to up and down.

  8. #8
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    Registered: Sep 2004
    Location: Pennsylvania
    Quote Originally Posted by downwinder View Post
    depending on when you started thief "i started with thief 1 so i liked how the cutscene played out,i felt gold ruined how thief 1 felt in mission order

    so once that get debated on what is best to use for videos then we need to see t1/g nd t2 and t3 videos all redone to maximum performance on one video on you tube so no one has to download anything and it will be hosted by youtube=free cost to maker,then it will be a complete series 1-3

    screw 2014 remake

    the 2 cellphone thief games were more cannon then 2014

    but great job with my new hd monitor with led lighting they look amazing but hard to say what would be best format to view ,it should be based on monitor resolution,i have a 24w hp so i like the panoramic view where there is a back bar along top and bottom,where you see more of the left and right compared to up and down.
    When Thief Gold came out I was like another rip off one new map im not buying the game again to get one more map!
    That lasted for about a year then I finally broke down and bought it, afterwards I couldn't go back to the original thief gold was MORE than just a new map after all.
    The movies are cool thanks

  9. #9
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    Registered: Dec 2017
    Hi, can Akven or someone else upload these and the latest update of the Thief Gold movies mod to Google Drive or Mega? That site keeps telling me the owner has reached the daily traffic and doesn't let me to download neither.

    EDIT: Also, I've got the German credits video with the song that's missing from the american release: https://mega.nz/#!CixViYYa!1eDYJSl-h...jrHwKQ25fZhshs Just in case you want to improve that one, Akven.
    Last edited by Taffingtaffer; 4th Apr 2019 at 17:41.

  10. #10
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    Registered: Feb 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by Taffingtaffer View Post
    Hi, can Akven or someone else upload these and the latest update of the Thief Gold movies mod to Google Drive or Mega? That site keeps telling me the owner has reached the daily traffic and doesn't let me to download neither.

    EDIT: Also, I've got the German credits video with the song that's missing from the american release: https://mega.nz/#!CixViYYa!1eDYJSl-h...jrHwKQ25fZhshs Just in case you want to improve that one, Akven.
    I'll look into it.

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Gooday everyone.
    New links

    Thief Gold Refiltered Movies v2
    https://mega.nz/#!j0dAkQAT!vS5gKjD4W...UjvSwz00dJAx_A

    Thief 2 Refiltered Movies v1
    https://mega.nz/#!PxFkxCzK!F5zNDI-fo...UUpHr37a3hs3NE

    Thief Gold Neural Network Enhanced Intro [1080p]
    https://mega.nz/#!69VmACTb!OcFuYJBZ6...Wb7go2Wb5V3AKY

  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by Taffingtaffer View Post
    EDIT: Also, I've got the German credits video with the song that's missing from the american release: https://mega.nz/#!CixViYYa!1eDYJSl-h...jrHwKQ25fZhshs Just in case you want to improve that one, Akven.
    Honestly, I don't think there is a point in filtering this german credits video. Because its already 640x480. And it consists of still images, so you don't need to made a 15->30 fps conversion.

    P.S. I could possibly upscale all Thief Gold/Thief 2 movies into 1080p via neural network (ESRGAN) in some future (I already did Thief Gold intro). But it would be not usable ingame, only for youtube os similar resources.
    Example on youtube:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BgskHuTECI

  13. #13
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    Registered: Dec 2017
    Quote Originally Posted by Akven View Post
    Honestly, I don't think there is a point in filtering this german credits video. Because its already 640x480. And it consists of still images, so you don't need to made a 15->30 fps conversion.

    P.S. I could possibly upscale all Thief Gold/Thief 2 movies into 1080p via neural network (ESRGAN) in some future (I already did Thief Gold intro). But it would be not usable ingame, only for youtube os similar resources.
    Example on youtube:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BgskHuTECI
    Hmm, fair point. I'll suggest Jak64 to add it to T2Fix, in that case, it feels wrong how Thief 2 credits are just silent.

    Excuse my ignorance, but how is the intro unsuitable for the game? Can't it be upscaled in .avi format?

  14. #14
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    Registered: Feb 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by Taffingtaffer View Post
    Hmm, fair point. I'll suggest Jak64 to add it to T2Fix, in that case, it feels wrong how Thief 2 credits are just silent.

    Excuse my ignorance, but how is the intro unsuitable for the game? Can't it be upscaled in .avi format?
    The engine of the NewDark is limited to 640x480 for movies. Anything higher will be downscaled to 640x480 before output. So the whole thing with FullHD will be scaled down to SD era.
    So 1080p can be done via modern technologies, but only for your own usage.

  15. #15
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    Registered: Apr 2007
    FYI, b02 in T2 ends a little earlier than the original.

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