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Thread: Mafia 2 Impressions

  1. #176
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Mafia 2 suffered from significant executive meddling at the 11th hour. A LOT of content was cut, i.e. it had a full suite of side-missions and at least four different endings.

    This is how the game was as late as August 2009 (the footage is from Gamescom 09).

    So really 2K corporate is largely to blame for the game's current state.

  2. #177
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Started playing this yesterday and finished it today. 12 hours playtime total. The shooting and driving and even the stealth is solid. But the story is a bit of a let down. It's not really bad so much as it is plain depressing. I guess the moral of the story is "a life of crime will get you nowhere". Which, while perhaps accurate, is not what I want to hear. What I wanna hear is "a life of crime is awesome! You get to drive cars fast and shoot people!"

    Tomi, let us know what you think of the DLCs.

  3. #178
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2004
    Location: Australia
    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    Mafia 2 suffered from significant executive meddling at the 11th hour. A LOT of content was cut, i.e. it had a full suite of side-missions and at least four different endings.

    This is how the game was as late as August 2009 (the footage is from Gamescom 09).

    So really 2K corporate is largely to blame for the game's current state.
    Exactly why in the hell gimp a game to the max has got me stumped and then woulder why people who bought the game are angry due piss poor QA testing and a storyline that jumps all over the place

  4. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    This is how the game was as late as August 2009 (the footage is from Gamescom 09).
    Err.... aside from that mission not being in the finished game, there's not really anything in that clip that wasn't in the final product.

    Would've been nice to have the sidemissions and the different endings though.

  5. #180
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    Mafia 2 suffered from significant executive meddling at the 11th hour. A LOT of content was cut, i.e. it had a full suite of side-missions and at least four different endings.

    This is how the game was as late as August 2009 (the footage is from Gamescom 09).

    So really 2K corporate is largely to blame for the game's current state.
    Half of those missions would break most of the time, one fourth wasn't fun at all, and the last one fourth would crash the whole game if you tried to complete them with the Tommy Gun.
    And the endings? Two of them didn't make sense of the story and the third hasn't left the creative director's desk yet.

    As much as TTLG loves the idea of "big mean Mr. Publisher," game content gets cut for a reason, and reluctantly so since it represents wasted time and money (which big mean Mr. Publisher doesn't like very much at all).

  6. #181
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    Registered: Dec 2007
    Location: Finger paintings of the insane
    And that is why you should be like Valve. Show it when it is fucking done. Or at least just a couple screenies.

  7. #182
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: Near Brisbane, Australia
    I'm pretty sure they can't just erase Mafia 1 from the minds of every gamer on earth.

  8. #183
    New Member
    Registered: May 2007
    Location: Melbourne
    M1 I've played 15-20 times, but M2 I've only played through once - for a $120 collector's edition. At least I managed to pick up all DLC's for $10 in the recent steam sale.

    I won't rehash why the game's so fucked, but I don't think the modding community can save this one. Mafia Empire is toast and Mafia Scene is in a drawn out death.

    I suppose we should be thankful ANYTHING was released... link

  9. #184
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland

    thread rez. Jimmy's Vendetta review. screenshots.

    Just finished this yesterday. 7.7 hours playtime. It's an extremely barebones revenge story. Instead of story or setpieces it relies on the core gameplay of Mafia 2 to deliver it's thrills, which is just fine for someone like me who just wanted an excuse to revisit Mafia 2's world. But if you're playing this just after finishing the main story you might be disapointed by just how barebones it is. There's an intro and an outro cutscene, but inbetween that the story is only forwarded by the mission descriptions.


    Jimmy's back in town and paying a visit to some old friends.


    Enough story, let's shoot something!





    They call me Shotgun-Jimmy.


    They also call me Parkour-Jimmy.


    Nothing to see here, officer.





    Spoiler: Jimmy gets his vengeance in the end.

    I had a good time with it. I'd forgotten how good the shooting and the driving is. And the wantedsystem is great. Trying to make your way to the nearest clothes store when you're wanted by the police is fantastic emergent gameplay. Another great moment that came up dynamically was when a cop caught me speeding and chased after me. I took him for a chase through the nearby junkyard before stopping at the back of it, in a nice isolated area. Then I got out and let the cop write me a ticket. After he turned his back I pulled out my pistol and gunned him down. Then I drove his copcar into the compactor. After that I got back into my car, switched the radio over to the Delta station, and rolled out of there like nothing had happened. Total gangsta.

    edit: just got the Joe's Adventures DLC as well. Never really cared for the character, but I want some more Mafia 2.
    Last edited by henke; 22nd Jul 2012 at 06:29.

  10. #185
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    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: the Sheeple Pen
    Nice mini-review there, henke. I remember being a bit disappointed with Jimmy's Vendetta, the missions were way too short (and a bit easy) and they didn't seem to have so much to do with the story. Most of the time you would just drive somewhere, get off your car, shoot someone or blow up some car, and then drive to the final waypoint. It would have been nice to see some more longer missions other than the very last mission (which was pretty awesome actually), but as I was desperate for some more Mafia 2 action after finishing the main game, it kept me entertained for a while.

    I thought that Joe's Adventures was a bit better actually, I can't remember much of it anymore either as it's been a while since I played it through, but I'm fairly sure that the missions were longer and quite fun, and there was some sort of a story to follow. I'll be interested to hear what your thoughts on that one are.

  11. #186
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    I'm about halfway through Joe's Adventures. Certainly more effort has been put on a few of the missions. Like the first one, that has you stealthing through a FBI-guarded safehouse, and then a carchase across a frozen lake. After that most of the missions are as barebones as those in Jimmy's Vendetta tho, with a few more elaborate ones sprinkled in here and there.

  12. #187
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: ideally far away
    One of these days I'll go back and finish this damn game.

  13. #188
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Main change to the Definitive Edition remaster seems to be texture work.
    https://youtu.be/94oIvhuY710
    https://youtu.be/6zzLTesqsvg

    I think it's free for existing Steam owners, so no complaints here.

  14. #189
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: the Sheeple Pen
    Ah, I suppose that's a good enough reason to fire up Mafia 2 once again some time, but how nice it would have been to have some new content too... Anyway, I wasn't expecting a free upgrade - even if it's "just" some graphical enhancements - so that's a very nice gesture from 2K! It's still somewhat hilarious to see a lot of people go mental over this and call the remaster a shameless rip-off and whatnot.

  15. #190
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Here's the trailer btw. I like that it's an almost shot-for-shot remake of the original BOOM BOOM trailer from 10 years ago.





    Start playing the first one, wait 1 second, then start playing the second and they sync up almost perfectly.

  16. #191
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Edit: Sorry, I forgot that there were *two* Mafia remake/remaster threads. My post was entirely about the first game.

  17. #192
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    You know, Mafia 2, when I played it, I really wasn't very accommodating of at the time. I felt it was a watered-down story with a gorgeous game world and nothing really innovative to make it stand out from, say, a GTA. I have a feeling I'd be more generous to it now if I replayed it.

    Having said that, M2's definitive edition appears to have some issues at the moment, like resolution problems and toned down physics, if the Steam forum squealing is anything to go by. It may need a patch or two.

  18. #193
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    You know, Mafia 2, when I played it, I really wasn't very accommodating of at the time. I felt it was a watered-down story with a gorgeous game world and nothing really innovative to make it stand out from, say, a GTA. I have a feeling I'd be more generous to it now if I replayed it.
    Yeah, people were hard on it at release because A. they heard about all of the cut content and/or B. the open world was just immersive window dressing for an entirely linear, story-driven game.

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