What drove Karras off the edge?

[Azaran]

His voice kind of reminds me of the Freemason Manly P Hall. Would be funny if that was the actual inspiration
Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7AGKfbCKDE

Aleister Crowley even more

And don't pay attention to the necro criticisms. I've seen the exact opposite, people putting down new threads because 'there's already a ton of them'. Catch 22

[Anarchic Fox]

karrass is a typical case of mental problem/genius,its a trop that has been done alot

At the time, it hadn't. Not in computer games. I can't think of a single example predating Thief 2, except for Sanitarium.

Also, Karras never did snap. His vision was the same from start to finish. He had no breakdown or episode. There is a difference between a sociopath and a schizophrenic.

[Azaran]

Also, Karras never did snap. His vision was the same from start to finish. He had no breakdown or episode. There is a difference between a sociopath and a schizophrenic.

The ultimate Mechanist plan was to destroy all nature, and society as it was, to establish their utopian vision. Publicly, they were mum about this goal as it would alienate the nobles and people who supported them.

So they had a public face, to provide servants and security devices to the nobility and technologically improve the City, as a cover for something more sinister. Like hardcore Christian fundamentalists who use charity, education, and medical care as a ruse to convert others and eradicate native cultures.

[downwinder]

alot is unknown from pre hammer karras,very little known when he was in hammers over all,and when we saw mech it was already going pretty good so we missed the very beginning of that

in all if we had to add up the years of not knowing what karrass was doing it would be more then we know,from cannon

that is why i think a pre thief 1 game would be great it could explore all those avenues,or thief 4 can go back to fill in blanks did the "metal child" live

but you are right he was a sociopath for sure narcissist / etc

but we really have no clue why,at least cannon over all dont say


thief 1 and 2 and 3 are like the movie version compared to the book version in storyline,garrett is the action :P

[Bulgarian_Taffer]

The ultimate Mechanist plan was to destroy all nature, and society as it was, to establish their utopian vision. Publicly, they were mum about this goal as it would alienate the nobles and people who supported them.

So they had a public face, to provide servants and security devices to the nobility and technologically improve the City, as a cover for something more sinister. Like hardcore Christian fundamentalists who use charity, education, and medical care as a ruse to convert others and eradicate native cultures.

I wonder how many of the Mechanists were aware of the true scope of Karras plan. Logs and diaries in the Soulforge Cathedral suggest that some Mechanists were alienated and found Karras behavior disturbing. I guess not many of them would have agreed with him, because that would mean their own death.

After all, it looks they were forcefully converted to masked servants.

[Anarchic Fox]

The Mechanists used technology that had been deemed forbidden by the Hammerites, who until then had controlled all industrial production. In TDP, electricity has been discovered and harnessed, yet all the electrical systems are in severe disrepair, with sparks flying everywhere. This indicates that higher technology was already known, but had been suppressed.

Karras was not a genius who suddenly discovered advanced technology all on his own. He was someone who uncovered hidden secrets and turned them to his own ends. Perhaps he doled these secrets out slowly to Hammerites who were dissatisfied with orthodoxy, thus gaining rapid converts.