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  1. #10426
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    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    Nothing compared to the the right playing Russia's hands.
    Case in point:

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...ll-60082245958
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/u...-kentucky.html

    To recap the story, the US sanctioned a Russian oligarch named Oleg Deripaska, a close ally of Putin. Lord Dampnut's administration lifted those sanctions apropos of nothing. That led to a bipartisan effort to block the lifting in the sanctions in Congress, where 70% of House Republicans voted to keep the sanctions and if it wasn't for Mitch McConnell's lobbying in the Senate, the sanctions would have remained. Now Deripaska's company decided to invest 200 million dollars to open a new mill in McConnell's home state.

    As an extra cherry on the multilayered swamp cake, the Russian company's lobbyist in the US who gave a heads up to Mitch McConnell that the investment was coming got his wife appointed as a federal judge (a lifetime position) thanks to good old Mitch. And that was candidate whose nomination had been languishing for a year and a half because of her disastrous performance at her confirmation hearings and her being patently unqualified for the job.

  2. #10427
    Yes Yes, we know. It's only legitimate if it comes from MSNBC or the New York Times.

    Heres' the problem with that mindset:

    One of Vice's co-founders (Tim Pool) has documented a rapidly growing practice where NYT (and other agencies to be fair) are now "stealth editing" their articles without actually announcing a retraction.

    How on earth can you trust organizations that habitually do that?


  3. #10428
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    jingle jingle

    Yes Yes, we know. It's only legitimate if it comes from MSNBC or the New York Times.
    Who said that? Straw-man much?

    Heres' the problem with that mindset:
    Who here has that mindset?

    How on earth can you trust organizations that habitually do that?
    You can't so you use multiple sources.

    Or you go to primary sources, like the Mueller Report, when you want confirmation that Trump is a lying, thieving, treasonous, pussy-grabbing pile of excrement.

    Just because one source may have used discreditable tactics in some cases, doesn't mean every media outlet is doing the same thing. And it doesn't mean that the overall reporting of the facts, from all sources, is unusable garbage.

    Stop trying to poison the well. Haven't you figured out yet that using first year logical fallacies isn't going to fly here?
    Last edited by Nicker; 22nd May 2019 at 21:11.

  4. #10429
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    After being surprised by Nancy Pelosi's accusations of a cover up, Trump stormed out of a meeting about infrastructure spending and held an impromptu press conference in the Rose garden, pausing only to produce a quick graphic for the podium...




    In their hast, the graphics department understandably missed the lines for indictments and convictions as well as the number of subsequent and parallel investigations of Trump's criminality.

  5. #10430
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    Registered: May 2004
    Funny how they had a convenient sign ready for an impromptu temper tantrum. Anyway, people on the internet were quick to fix the sign:






  6. #10431
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Trump mounts a direct assault on the 1st Amendment.



    The DOJ wants the UK to extradite Julian Assange to face charges under the espionage act. These charges are not for assisting the Trump campaign to access information stolen by Russian intelligence, damaging to Hillary Clinton. Trump has no problem with that. Neither are these charges related to his alleged attempt to hack military passwords. These charges are for publishing information the government wanted to keep secret, something that the media does all the time and is in fact one of their most important functions in holding governments to account.

    Trump wants to ban journalism.

  7. #10432
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    How about them fake news, eh?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/team-t...-pelosi-videos

    Just hours after having multiple senior aides vouch for his calm state of mind after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused him of a temper tantrum, President Trump took to Twitter late Thursday to push an edited video of the top Democrat supposedly “stammering” through a news conference, jumping on a conspiracy-theory bandwagon that had been raging on social media throughout the day.

    The video, which was first aired by the Fox Business Network and appeared to have been cleverly edited to make Pelosi's speech seem impaired, came after several doctored videos purporting to show a “drunk” Pelosi slurring her words spread like wildfire on social media, all while Trump tried to convince the public that Pelosi was not to be taken seriously because she is “crazy” and “a mess.”

    [...]

  8. #10433
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Lord Dampnut sends more troops to the Middle East:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1SU1VQ

    U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday he will send about 1,500 American troops to the Middle East, mostly as a protective measure, amid heightened tensions with Iran.

    “We want to have protection in the Middle East. We’re going to be sending a relatively small number of troops, mostly protective,” Trump said as he left the White House for a trip to Japan.

    “Some very talented people are going to the Middle East right now. And we’ll see what happens,” he said.

    [...]

  9. #10434
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    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Location, Location

  10. #10435
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    While we're gearing up for another pointless war, it's worth remembering the context in which it's happening.

    I'll post the whole thing since NYTimes is behind a paywall after 10 articles.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/u...elligence.html

    Quote Originally Posted by New York Times
    Trump Gives Attorney General Sweeping Power in Review of 2016 Campaign Inquiry

    By Maggie Haberman and Michael S. Schmidt -- May 23, 2019

    President Trump took extraordinary steps on Thursday to give Attorney General William P. Barr sweeping new authorities to conduct a review into how the 2016 Trump campaign’s ties to Russia were investigated, significantly escalating the administration’s efforts to place those who investigated the campaign under scrutiny.

    In a directive, Mr. Trump ordered the C.I.A. and the country’s 15 other intelligence agencies to cooperate with the review and granted Mr. Barr the authority to unilaterally declassify their documents. The move — which occurred just hours after the president again declared that those who led the investigation committed treason — gave Mr. Barr immense leverage over the intelligence community and enormous power over what the public learns about the roots of the Russia investigation.

    The order is a change for Mr. Trump, who last year dropped a plan to release documents related to the Russia investigation amid concerns from Justice Department officials who said making them public could damage national security. At the time, the president was being encouraged by a group of Republican Congress members to declassify the information.

    Mr. Barr, who has used the word “spying” to describe how the Trump campaign was investigated, has been deeply involved in the department’s review of how intelligence was collected on the campaign. Mr. Barr has told Congress that he personally authorized the review. While he has asked John H. Durham, the United States attorney in Connecticut, to spearhead it, a Justice Department official said that Mr. Barr has personally met with the heads of the intelligence agencies to discuss the review and that the project was a top priority after the release last month of the special counsel’s report.

    One official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss classified matters, said previously that Mr. Barr wanted to know more about what foreign assets the C.I.A. had in Russia in 2016 and what those informants were telling the agency about how President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia sought to meddle in the 2016 election.

    The C.I.A. on Thursday referred questions to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. A spokeswoman for the office did not respond to messages seeking comment.

    The directive is likely to irk the intelligence community, which has long prized its ability to determine what information about its operations can be released to the public. During the investigations of the C.I.A.’s enhanced interrogation programs, the agency stymied investigators by refusing to declassify documents.

    There could be other implications for the intelligence agencies. The C.I.A. considers confidential sources its most highly classified and most protected assets, and any investigation that could possibly force it to reveal those identities is likely to create a standoff. Last year, the agency lost trust in the Justice Department’s ability to keep the names of informants and sources secret after the identity of an F.B.I. informant who interacted with two Trump campaign officials under investigation, Stefan Halper, was revealed as part of congressional inquiries, according to former intelligence officials.

    Late Thursday, Jeremy Bash, a chief of staff at the C.I.A. under President Barack Obama, said that the president’s move was “a very significant delegation of power to an attorney general who has shown he’s willing to do Donald Trump’s political bidding.”

    “It’s dangerous,” he continued, “because the power to declassify is also the power to selectively declassify, and selective declassification is one of the ways the Trump White House can spin a narrative about the origins of the Russia investigation to their point of view.”

    He added that confidential sources around the globe might be fearful of talking now.

    “It sends a signal that their identity may be exposed for purely political purposes,” Mr. Bash said. “If I were in charge of intelligence operations, I would be worried about sources clamming up tonight.”

    Mr. Barr has said that he believes Mr. Trump’s campaign was “spied” on, appearing to bolster unfounded accusations that Mr. Trump has made about the Obama administration illegally wiretapping his associates.

    The dual decisions on Thursday were announced in a presidential memorandum, and explained in a statement by the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

    The directive will “help ensure that all Americans learn the truth about the events that occurred, and the actions that were taken, during the last presidential election and will restore confidence in our public institutions,” the statement said.

    Despite the significant step, there are indications there may be little criminality to uncover. Mr. Durham is conducting only a limited review, not a criminal investigation, which suggests Mr. Barr may not have identified enough wrongdoing to open such an inquiry.

    Mr. Durham is not the only federal prosecutor who has been examining this issue. For over a year, John W. Huber, the United States attorney in Utah, also examined aspects of the Russia investigation until Mr. Durham subsumed that part of his work. When Mr. Barr’s predecessor, Matthew G. Whitaker, was the acting attorney general, and Mr. Trump repeatedly pressed for him to appoint a second special counsel, Mr. Whitaker told people he considered Mr. Huber to essentially be serving in that role.

    A spotlight on the people reshaping our politics. A conversation with voters across the country. And a guiding hand through the endless news cycle, telling you what you really need to know.

    A Justice Department official confirmed that Mr. Barr asked the president to issue the memo, which broadens his authority in an inquiry in which he is personally interested. The order also extends to several other parts of the federal government, including the Departments of Defense, Energy and Homeland Security.

    Since the report by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, was released, Mr. Trump has repeatedly called the inquiry a “hoax” on Twitter and has expressed frustration and anger over the efforts by the Democrat-controlled House to review aspects of the report.

    The White House has recently ratcheted up its messaging about the Russia investigation. On Wednesday, Mr. Trump held a hastily called news conference in the Rose Garden to denounce Democrats. There, on a lectern, hung a sign featuring statistics about the Mueller investigation, and it also said, “No Collusion, No Obstruction.”

    Meantime, the official White House Twitter page has featured quotations from the president, including one saying, “The crime was committed on the OTHER SIDE.”

    Officials at the F.B.I. have denied that anything improper took place in relation to the Russia inquiry.

    But in an interview this month with Fox News, Mr. Barr expressed concern about a lack of answers about its origins.

    “I’ve been trying to get answers to the questions, and I’ve found that a lot of the answers have been inadequate and some of the explanations I’ve gotten don’t hang together,” he said.

  11. #10436
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Well now the Dems have to start the impeachment process, before they all end up in the hooscow. Pelosi was right, Trump wants to be impeached.

    Howard Stern says that Trump's run for Prez was just a publicity stunt and winning wasn't in the plan. Well winning was a bonus for Trump's ego but serving was never in the plans. The idiot should have remained as a New York Mobster.

  12. #10437
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    You know the best way to impeach Trump? Give him the rope to hang himself with. Bait him until he does something so incredibly stupid, so damaging that it CAN'T be ignored or excused without making those doing it look like mouthbreathing idiots, then use that against him in the 2020 election.

    A direct impeachment process, especially with an economy doing so well, is political suicide.

  13. #10438
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Renz. He's already done that in spades, many times already. He's crossed so many lines, line is just the new colour of the pavement.

    Would even shooting someone in the face on Fifth Avenue shock his base now?
    Last edited by Nicker; 25th May 2019 at 03:17.

  14. #10439
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Nothing he's done effects people's lives directly. It can be ignored. From your average person's perspective, life is about the same, maybe a little better under Trump as it was Obama. He's been pretty well shielded from the fallout of his own mistakes.

    For Trump to be impeachable, it has to effect a lot of people, make enough of your average, generally independent voting, don't-give-too-many-fucks-about-politics type people truly angry. He's stirred up a goodly amount of shit already, but we've yet to really reach that point. He could lose in 2020 based upon his usual demeanor, but to remove him from office before then will require something truly earth shattering, especially considering it's never been done before.

    I think Pelosi has the right idea. She knows Trump is unimpeachable as-is. With a friendly Senate in play, there's not much the House could do. Any effort would be wasted, and will more than likely end up blowing up in their faces. But by just baiting him, leading him on, he'll say or do something stupid enough that you could easily throw it back in his face during the upcoming primaries, and his defenders will look pathetic trying to justify it. That's a much safer battleground, one that guarantees at least some chances of victory.

    Democrats need to realize that sometimes it's better to do the smart thing, rather than the right thing, even if it hurts to do so. If they do their usual righteously ding the good thing spiel, it'll more than likely fuck things up for them. See the Kavanaugh hearing for a good example of that. Trump is protected from every angle by an entire party willing to look the other way so long as it doesn't directly effect them, a party who are better practiced at massaging a situation to their advantage, and they themselves have more than enough skeletons in their own closet that can be used against them if things start getting heated.

    If the Democrats want to get rid of Trump in 2020, they need to be smart, not righteous.

  15. #10440
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    2020? Will we get there? Let's just wait until he lazily sparks WW3 - maybe then his base would wake up.

    Just kidding.

    President Donald Trump tweeted Sunday he doesn't view North Korea's short range missile tests as disturbing, a view deeply at odds with his Japanese hosts and in conflict with statements made a day earlier by his national security adviser.

    "North Korea fired off some small weapons, which disturbed some of my people, and others, but not me," Trump wrote on Twitter.
    By "some of my people" he means everybody working to protect national security.

    "I have confidence that Chairman Kim will keep his promise to me, & also smiled when he called Swampman Joe Bidan (sic) a low IQ individual, & worse. Perhaps that's sending me a signal?"
    It's OK - Kim hates Trump's political opponents so he's no threat.

  16. #10441
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Pence just said at his military college commence speech that the graduates could expect to be in combat soon...
    If by "waking up his base" you mean getting them excited and on board for interminable Middle Eastern War v. 6.0 then that seems to be the plan.

  17. #10442
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Just another day in the swamp:

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...al-disclosure/

    President Donald Trump’s latest personal financial disclosure was released Thursday afternoon, showing that Trump, who already owed more money than any other president in history, borrowed millions more in 2018 from a bank whose CEO won a federal appointment months later.

    Trump’s various businesses’ revenues were mixed, with declines at properties he rarely visits—as well as at his Mar-a-Lago resort—but increases at properties like his Washington D.C. hotel. While Trump did add revenue from online sales of branded products and saw increased sales of his bottled water, he recorded declines in areas more central to his business, including commissions earned through his realty firm.

    [...]

    When he took office, Trump refused to give up ownership of his business empire, instead putting all of his assets into a revocable trust which he said he would have no day-to-day control over. The move, which kept ownership firmly in the president’s hands, was largely dismissed by ethics experts as paper shuffling with little practical effect, especially after it was revealed that Trump has the ability to withdraw money at any time from the trust.

  18. #10443
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: Formby, NW England
    Trump must be part of a psychological experiment to see how far supporters can be pushed until they change their minds, and how far opponents can be pushed before they completely lose theirs.

  19. #10444
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    I've believed just that for awhile now.

  20. #10445
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Wasn't that the point of the "I could probably shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose voters" answer during the debates?
    I mean ... isn't that an odd thing to boast about? And not just in a presidential election debate.
    Even if someone were just coming up with random shit to say on the spot...
    How at a loss for words does one have to be where that's the first thing that pops into their mind?
    A twisted mass experiment is a much better theory than the sad reality of it.

  21. #10446
    All this talk of Russia..

    I present to you discussions, out in the open, of how the agents of a foreign state can influence the election by stopping a US candidate's campaign

    https://twitter.com/smerc82/status/1129189655633649664?

  22. #10447
    "But it could be fake!!!"

    No, it's not. Archive link: https://archive.is/kCBpw


    Trump must be part of a psychological experiment to see how far supporters can be pushed until they change their minds, and how far opponents can be pushed before they completely lose theirs.
    So who is behind this psychological experiment and who is running it?

    For Trump to be impeachable, it has to effect a lot of people, make enough of your average, generally independent voting, don't-give-too-many-fucks-about-politics type people truly angry. He's stirred up a goodly amount of shit already, but we've yet to really reach that point. He could lose in 2020 based upon his usual demeanor, but to remove him from office before then will require something truly earth shattering, especially considering it's never been done before.
    Trump is very much impeachable, but in a way that would never happen. He is in blatant violation of the Constitution (the original written text) by participating in wars without congressional approval. Impeaching Trump that way would harm the neocon agenda though so it will never even be considered.

  23. #10448
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicker View Post
    The DOJ wants the UK to extradite Julian Assange to face charges under the espionage act. These charges are not for assisting the Trump campaign to access information stolen by Russian intelligence, damaging to Hillary Clinton. Trump has no problem with that. Neither are these charges related to his alleged attempt to hack military passwords. These charges are for publishing information the government wanted to keep secret, something that the media does all the time and is in fact one of their most important functions in holding governments to account.

    Trump wants to ban journalism.
    The entire Democrat party wants Assange charged and imprisoned/executed for life too. Under your logic your party wants to ban journalism too (and they actually are taking actions to censor any non-corporate journalism that exists).

  24. #10449
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    Registered: Mar 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_Tarantula View Post
    All this talk of Russia..

    I present to you discussions, out in the open, of how the agents of a foreign state can influence the election by stopping a US candidate's campaign

    https://twitter.com/smerc82/status/1129189655633649664?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Wohl

    "Professional troll attempts to stir up trouble on twitter" hardly seems noteworthy.

  25. #10450
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Wait, Jacob Wohl? The same guy who has been featured in this very thread for trying and hilarously failing to frame Mueller and Buttigieg for sexual assault? Yeah, what a guy to take at face value.

    In other news, one of Lord Dampnut's very fine people got a very fine sentence for their very fine acts:

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ls-radicalized

    An Indiana man who plead guilty to defacing a synagogue with Nazi symbolism detailed to federal agents his road to radicalization, including meeting with members of the far-right group Identity Evropa and being inspired by the writings of a former Breitbart editor and the Nazi propaganda site Stormfront.

    Nolan Brewer, 21, of Eminence, plead guilty last week to conspiring to violate the civil rights of Congregation Shaarey Tefilla. He was sentenced to three years in prison.

    In July 2018, Brewer and his then-17-year-old wife, Kiyomi Brewer, drove 50 miles from their home to the synagogue, spray painted a Nazi flag and iron crosses on a Dumpster enclosure, and lit a fire on the ground. Prosecutors said they originally planned to break into the synagogue and destroy it with homemade bombs and napalm they brought along, but they got scared.

    In an interview with FBI agents, Brewer said they wanted to send a message to Jews as a race. He cited bogus statistics, aiming to back up the racist conspiracy theory that Jews have undue political influence.

    [...]

    They blamed his teenage wife, who they said had a troubled upbringing and would spend hours chatting on Discord, an app that had become popular among white supremacists. She then shared articles with her husband.

    “According to Nolan, she began with rightwing yet mainstream views such as those presented on Fox News. She then moved on to writing by Ben Shapiro and articles on Breitbart News which bridged the gap to the notorious white supremacist and anti-Semititc propaganda site Stormfront.”

    Shapiro didn’t return requests for comment.

    [...]
    Last edited by Starker; 28th May 2019 at 12:42.

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