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Thread: The Black Frog - mission 4 - The Lady and the Thief

  1. #201
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jul 2008
    There are several ways to deal with the dogs but if you have little or no equipment there are really only three choices: 1. Use the sword. You might have to keep running away and jumping in the water for safety. If you choose this route, I suggest placing a rope arrow first that will allow you to get back out of the water easily. 2. You can sneak by them with some patience. I ghosted this mission many times during testing and while the sanctuary was one of the more difficult spots to ghost, it was not really hard by ghosting standards. 3. You can just run and stay ahead of them, letting them chase you while you take care of business. That can be a bit nerve-wracking but it is definitely doable. And there is an upper ledge you can climb/jump to for safety (also worth exploring anyway).

  2. #202
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2005
    Location: Alberta, Canada
    Thanks, Tannar. I used a combination of all three. Ghosted in, shot an arrow into an unsuspecting victim. . .then when it charged me, I slashed it with the sword a couple times until it died. Wasn't too bad that way. Had a rope in the water too, so if I had to use it, I could drop in. (did once, when I pulled more than one) Took me a few tries that way - and one almost got away when it ran off, but I met it again on the way out and finished it off. (They were creepy dogs anyway. . .and I do like dogs! ) Phew.

    Funnily enough the big bad monster that was ripping soldiers up (I think it was the same one?) was a piece of cake. I jumped on the nearest pylon, and it stopped at the door and I shot it a few times until it fell over. Yes, yes. I do like 'getting' the badies from places they can't get me. I actually am really happy when games allow that. (Unlike GW2 which killed my favourite tactic early on. *sniffs*) I actually finished the mission with. . .*gasp* a whole 8 broadheads left. Amazing!

    Interesting ending. Had me a bit confused when he's gasping and gagging. . .and the health metre wasn't going down. But it worked!

    Now. . .onward! Er. . .tomorrow, maybe. Its late.

  3. #203
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Malmö, Sweden
    IIRC, you have oceans of space to lure them back too, and I am pretty sure they can follow you (i.e. no ledges or thresholds that stop them). So grab the attention of one of them, lure it far back so you are without earshot of the others and kill it one-on-one (circle strafing around and whacking them in the back works nicely). Save after each successful kill.


    EDIT: Oh, you made it. Nice.

  4. #204
    New Member
    Registered: May 2013
    Location: UK
    I have been playing this fabulous mission and loving every minute until I encountered the dreaded unfrobbable lever

    However, many hours later after much tweaking of my Thief folder, I got it to work!!!!!!!

    Thank you so much to TafferPatcher, without whom a grown man would have probably cried like a baby at being unable to finish this masterpiece!

  5. #205
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Malmö, Sweden
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Prancealot View Post
    I have been playing this fabulous mission and loving every minute until I encountered the dreaded unfrobbable lever
    Yup, it's scarier than the dogs and the charaka!

  6. #206
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2013
    Location: Ten, USA

    how do you kill/disable those zombie like people??

    I cannot get past them to get to the temple. I've tried everything. I am so frustrated. I can't even sneak past them because they seem to have super hyper hearing. It's the temple with the black frog treasure.

  7. #207
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jul 2008
    Yeah, they're tough. It is possible to sneak past them but it takes some patience and good timing. They will not see you if you are far enough away from them, even if you are out in plain sight. Also, some people have had some luck thinning their numbers by getting them to stand under the elevator and then lowering the elevator to crush them. Personally, I find that difficult to do. For me, it was easier to sneak past them. And you can also outrun them to get into the temple and once there it is possible to escape from them... at least for a while. Killing them is pretty difficult and you will usually die trying.

  8. #208
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2013
    Location: Ten, USA
    Thanks Tanner, I will try to outrun them again. I was able to crack 2 over the head when they were in human form, but after that I just couldn't get close enough. Here goes.

  9. #209
    New Member
    Registered: Sep 2016
    I apologize, but I'm having the same exact issue in the very beginning trying to pick up the lever (doesnt highlight/frob) and I've seen one of the solutions is to download a patch? tafferpatcher I believe? I'm nearly computer illiterate and just want to know if I find and download the latest version is there anything specific I will have to do with it?

    So far the campaign has been enthralling and I really cant wait to truly get started with this mission.

  10. #210
    Dóttirin klęšist oft móšur möttli
    Registered: Apr 2015
    Put this gen.osm into your Thief folder
    http://www.thiefmissions.com/darkloa...iefScripts.zip

  11. #211
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Dragonsreach
    It's hard to believe anyone still has the old unpatched gen these days. That thing has been biting players forever.

  12. #212
    New Member
    Registered: Sep 2016
    Quote Originally Posted by Unna Oertdottir View Post
    Put this gen.osm into your Thief folder
    http://www.thiefmissions.com/darkloa...iefScripts.zip
    Does it matter if I re-bought the game recently from gog.com? I put the script gen.osm into gog's thief 2 folder, replacing the one that was already there with no result in game.

  13. #213
    Dóttirin klęšist oft móšur möttli
    Registered: Apr 2015
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguinius View Post
    Does it matter if I re-bought the game recently from gog.com?
    No, it doesn't matter

    I put the script gen.osm into gog's thief 2 folder, replacing the one that was already there with no result in game.
    Try to restart the mission. As far as I can see, this is a don't read this, it's klingon stuffconversation that removes the frobinert-metaproperty from the lever when you frob the book.
    Frob the book and kneel in front of it. You should be able to frob the lever.

  14. #214
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2007
    Location: Krull Island, in the pub
    I cannot enter the place where the children of the black frog are. There is a used moss arrow near the face in the wall but I cannot find any switches nearby, or anything to "use". I also cannot continue in the place where the ruined buildings and the spiders are - I see a gate that I cannot open, near some machinery after some climbing.

    Any suggestions?
    Last edited by ticky; 24th Nov 2018 at 19:32.

  15. #215
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    To enter children of the black frog there is a key in the village somewhere; it's hidden. In the abandoned fishery there should be a lever in the basement of one of the main buildings. It's a room below ground with a window where you can see the gate open as you flip the lever. Not sure about "near some machinery after climbing" as you put it.
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  16. #216
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2007
    Location: Krull Island, in the pub
    Quote Originally Posted by klatremus View Post
    To enter children of the black frog there is a key in the village somewhere; it's hidden. In the abandoned fishery there should be a lever in the basement of one of the main buildings. It's a room below ground with a window where you can see the gate open as you flip the lever. Not sure about "near some machinery after climbing" as you put it.
    Yes, I could have been more precise. By "after some climbing", I meant two towers in a lost, destroyed area with spiders. Anyway, I was able to find the lever you mentioned and after, the only thing to see was a beheading of a guard.

    As for the Old Black Frog Temple, I cannot find any doors to frob or places to use a key.

    My other main reason of being stuck is that I cannot get out of the Children area.

    Thank you!
    Last edited by ticky; 25th Nov 2018 at 07:01.

  17. #217
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: Texas
    After the beheading...check the the scene if I remember correctly.

  18. #218
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Haven't played this in many years, I'm stuck. I remember there's a fortress or castle I need to get to, but I see no way out of the village. There's a covered passage leading to a spider area and a clearing, but the latter is cut off by some metal bars.

    So far I only found the shanty key, which got me into the Pagan's shack, but that's it

  19. #219
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    I'll give you a couple of hints:

    1. Check upstairs in one of the village buildings. There might be something hidden there that could get you past those bars beyond the spiders, but you'll need to go a different way; try getting wet.
    2. Did you search everywhere in the Pagan's shack? There is something there that could be useful, though not needed to finish the mission.
    3. Instead of heading up the slope to get to the waterfall outside the village, try going another direction. The castle you mentioned isn't far away.

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  20. #220
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Thanks! I was missing that other key upstairs

  21. #221
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    So now I'm trying to figure out how to open this door in the area with the spiders

  22. #222
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    Look up :-)

  23. #223
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Quote Originally Posted by klatremus View Post
    Look up :-)
    Thanks!

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