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Thread: All advertising is an infringement of your free will

  1. #1
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    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Cumbria, England

    All advertising is an infringement of your free will

    I only just noticed the advert and the jam, or whatever. When they this happen? Did "they" insist you put advertising on your site?

  2. #2
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Oxford, England

    Well at the time of this reply a banner for the DVD of Cast Away was showing. Just to give it a running chance I stared at it for 30 seconds. I believe I can resist the urge to buy the DVD.
    'An anarchist is a liberal with a bomb'

    Trotsky

  3. #3
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    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Cumbria, England

    Heh, the thing is putting the jam in actually does the adverts a favor. This is because, amusingly*, ad-banners are such a common sight on the internet that most users just don't even notice them. I think we almost edit them out.

    This was the first time in ages I actually really noticed them. I managed to resist the urge to click on the links.

    It's still cool though.

    * Amusing because the massive overkill by advertisers on the internet has rendered it next to useless. Hah.

  4. #4

    When is someone going to successfully sue one if those bastards who put buttons on their adverts which morons like me occasionally click on?

  5. #5
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    Registered: May 2000

    Uhh. Clicking on those banners generates revenue to help keep TTLG going. (Although not all of them pay?).

  6. #6
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    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: The North, UK

    Originally posted by Tim Was Already Taken:
    I only just noticed the advert and the jam, or whatever. When they this happen? Did "they" insist you put advertising on your site?
    Yep, its part of our terms of being hosted. S'fair enough I suppose, TTLG need the money.
    The jam is apparently KG's first original thought.
    colcob
    The Narcissus Entity
    [!]

  7. #7
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    Registered: Aug 1999
    Location: Bath, England.

    Actually, TTLG asked us a way back, but our web-fellows have been ridiculously busy, and we've only just got them now. Obviously, we're fine with anything that keeps TTLG going - but we have to present the advert in something that will fit into the rest of the concept of the site. Hence the jam.

    Of course, we have other one's planned for the line, but this will do for a start.

    Oh yes - the story is told of that line here... http://www.gamesradar.com/published/...age_279_1.html

    KG

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    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: The North, UK

    Aha, i'll add the 'own' to the site.
    colcob
    The Narcissus Entity
    [!]

  9. #9
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Between Dreams and Darkness

    At least we don't have the pseudo porn and marketed cool of UGO banner ads.
    This is the night. This is the end of one hope, the dawn of another . This is the beginning of all that may yet be. This is solitude. This is moonlight. This is the darkness.

  10. #10
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    Registered: Jan 2001
    Location: The North, UK

    No, just bizarre ads asking us to become a registered nurse. Or watch Castaway.
    As if i'm likely to do either of those things.
    colcob
    The Narcissus Entity
    [!]

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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Between Dreams and Darkness

    Though frankly I'd prefer to become the nurse.
    This is the night. This is the end of one hope, the dawn of another . This is the beginning of all that may yet be. This is solitude. This is moonlight. This is the darkness.

  12. #12
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    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Dublin

    Speaking of Ads being evil, I've been working my way through Nologo recently, I say working because it's taking longer than any book I've yet encountered.

    I keep having to stop in disgust, and anger.

    I hate Ads.

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Cumbria, England

    Originally posted by martin2290:
    Speaking of Ads being evil, I've been working my way through Nologo recently, I say working because it's taking longer than any book I've yet encountered.

    I keep having to stop in disgust, and anger.

    I hate Ads.
    After reading no-logo, I've started to notice Adbusters efforts on billboards. They're rare, but they're definately there.

    I've read No Logo
    I've read the Culture novels
    I watched Fight Club

    These things have changed me. I see the world entirely differently to this time last year.

  14. #14
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    Registered: Aug 1999
    Location: Bath, England.

    Anyone in the mood for a little revolution before tea-time?

    KG

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Cumbria, England

    Originally posted by Brem_X_Jones:
    Anyone in the mood for a little revolution before tea-time?

    KG
    I don't need a revolution. There's only one high street chain in my local town and that's Boots.

    I suppose we have some high-street banks so I could have a mini-revolution.

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Between Dreams and Darkness

    No Logo
    Fight Club

    Comments on a generation.

    A revolution will spill soon. Do not expect a war. Expect a change in our culture, our outlook. Capitalism will not fall, but alternate. Sooner rather than later the balance of power will shift back to the people.
    This is the night. This is the end of one hope, the dawn of another . This is the beginning of all that may yet be. This is solitude. This is moonlight. This is the darkness.

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Oxford, England

    I wouldnt be too sure. If you have that sort of optimism, then no one is ever going to even try to get a full revolution. This current capitalism is quite sneaky in that a large proportion of the working class are all nicely filed away in all those "backward" countries people in this country dont see. Perhaps if these countries were to suddenly revolt, then global capitalism would collapse as the source of cheap goods dries up.
    'An anarchist is a liberal with a bomb'

    Trotsky

  18. #18
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Between Dreams and Darkness

    Unfortuanately the "backward" countries do not have the financial clout to mount a military revolution. It is up to cultural influences and people in alternate positions of power to make the capitalists notice global suffering. I believe in recent years, that if nothing more we have made our prescence felt.

    That is an important step towards change. The further and deeper we fall into capitalism, the quicker its collapse will be.
    This is the night. This is the end of one hope, the dawn of another . This is the beginning of all that may yet be. This is solitude. This is moonlight. This is the darkness.

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Aug 1999
    Location: Bath, England.

    As I keep on quoting at everyone, ultimatlely, it's change or die.

    KG

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Between Dreams and Darkness

    It's not enough for an individual to change, a social group or cliche must do so in order to have some influence. Ultimately we are doomed if we do not care. And as a word of decaf coffee and pre made pop takes over, there are very few who care.
    This is the night. This is the end of one hope, the dawn of another . This is the beginning of all that may yet be. This is solitude. This is moonlight. This is the darkness.

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