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Thread: First Day of Winter FM 2006.01.09

  1. #1
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    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Texas

    First Day of Winter FM 2006.01.09

    Thought we could use a dedicated thread for this level.

  2. #2
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Texas
    Sooo . . . is there a way to actually play this level? Or is the object to just get killed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and?

  3. #3
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    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Texas
    WOW! All the joy and fun of trying to sneak past guards with ESP! I think I'd better delete this one from my Hard Drive for the sanity of my own mind and the protection of my PC (lest I hurl it out the window)!
    Last edited by taffedinthehead; 14th Jan 2006 at 12:02.

  4. #4
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    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Does that mean I'm not the only having serious trouble trying to bj the one upstairs.

  5. #5
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Making Larry Miserable
    Have you
    spoiler:
    climbed the tree and got in through the roof?


    If not then you may struggle. I had no trouble with them.

    Sooo . . . is there a way to actually play this level? Or is the object to just get killed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and?
    You know you have too much time on your hands your hands your hands your hands your hands ....

    This is a very well made level.

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2001
    I managed the guy upstairs after a few tries, but then I get stuck on the next objective.

    I'm disinclined to put spoiler tags around, so I'll just say that it's quite difficult to discover the value of Garrett's new home after the other objectives have been completed.

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Texas
    There's a Black Jack somewhere? Where?

  8. #8
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    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Made it eventually. taffedinthehead
    spoiler:
    if you climb the tree (slightly tricky) and get onto the roof you'll see an entrance on the other side of the eaves, once you get in there, they hear you and the one upstairs goes downstairs, which gives you time to sneak out of the room along to the left where you'll find your favourite bj


    Once I'd managed to bj the guy upstairs, the rest was much easier.

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2004
    Location: Ireland/Poland
    Blackjack is in the toolbox in the attic. There is even more than blackjack...
    And it's really hard to win with the burglars if you come in home the ways they expect you to come... If you find another way then this mission is quite easy...

    EDIT:_____________
    I'm making new, improved, enlarged and bug fixed version of this mission. I asked Jason to remove it from the server until version 2.0 appears... So, please wait a while...
    Last edited by PinkDot; 14th Jan 2006 at 13:55.

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: Freetown PEI Canada
    I tried jumping off the supposedly climbable tree a few times only to end up a thief pancake . It is much easier to run past the thieves . The objective for the thieves was just plain silly and had no hint whatsoever . Who in the name of god would place thieves in some locked closet in the same house as their sleeping family? If you made the wrong choice and put them down the hole , there is no recourse . The mission itself is beautiful and the ending was great , but it could have been much better had the objectives been thought out better .

  11. #11
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    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Making Larry Miserable
    It certainly required a lot of inspired guess work but I'm not sure how the author could give hints without telling the player exactly what to do.

  12. #12
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    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Texas
    OK - easy level afterall - when you have someone walking you throug it step-by-step. I never would have considered
    spoiler:
    climbing the tree - not only was there no hint about it, it didn't really even stand out from the rest of the environment.
    I don't know how long it would have taken me to think of
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    putting the thieves in the basement.
    And, had I not already read about
    spoiler:
    giving the map to the wife,
    I would never have thought of that either since
    spoiler:
    she isn't frobbable.


    The level certainly looked cool, though. And I've always liked the idea of
    spoiler:
    finding a whole secret world underneath your house that was always there but you didn't know it. The whole "wife/zombie" thing was a little silly, though.

    Personally, out of the three Glyph contest entrants, I'd have voted for Winter's Holiday.

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2003
    Location: San Antonio, TX
    On Expert, is there a limit to number of BJ? I KO'd 2 and when I KO the 3rd, the game ends. Is that part of the bug fix for version 2.0 or should we be told of a BJ limit on Expert?
    Albert

  14. #14
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2002
    Ok, I guess I need some help on this one. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or encountered a bug. With the thieves, at first I tried
    spoiler:
    throwing them in the river. That failed the mission because I'm playing on expert and am not allowed to kill. Then I came to this thread, and from what I've read, I thought I was supposed to put them in the small closet under the stairs in the basement. I've done this, and even locked the door with the key afterwards, but this objective does not check off.
    I cannot proceed because when I go down the ladder, the mission fails for not completing the "Find a good place for these crooks" objective.
    Can someone please tell me if I'm missing something?

    Other than this, I like the plot, and can't wait to see what's "down there".

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2005
    Location: Not Kansas
    I just visited thiefmissions.com to download this FM, but it says the file is unavailable; 'downloads of this file have been disabled by the administrator'. Is there another site where I can download it?

  16. #16
    Thiefmissions.com
    Moderator

    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Houston, Tx., USA
    The author requested that it be removed. Sorry.

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Texas
    Really! Did he give a reason why?


    Albert: There should not be a blackjack minimum - are you sure you didn't accidentally kill him somehow?

    Bass: Are you sure all THREE thieves are in the room together? Make sure the door is shutting all the way closed, because it locks in whatever position it is in.

  18. #18
    Thiefmissions.com
    Moderator

    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Houston, Tx., USA
    If you scroll up a bit you'll see his explanation.

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2002
    Thanks taffedinthehead! Yep, I'd forgotten about the first one I wacked and threw in the upstairs entry room.

    But, now I'm REEEELY feeling dumb! I'm in the
    spoiler:
    caves and water (which are very pretty and well made BTW), and I seem to be at a dead end. I haven't found any loot nor any other area to explore. I've swum up into to a large circular cave with crystals on the ceiling, but no loot and no way out that I can see. I even found a "secret area" (again, with no loot). I've tried throwing around every rock I see too, hoping to reveal something, but no luck.

    Someone please help!

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2004
    Location: Ireland/Poland
    Sorry for removing the mission from 'thiefmissions.com' - mission need to be improved. Yes, i know - it shouldn't even be there before improving but sometimes small misunderstandings happen... But you know - patience is the virtue...

    Bassmanret: Lantern can be useful for the caves.

    Abert: there's no knockout limit. There is only 'no kills' objective - is that the one which turns to "failed"?
    It sounds like another bug...

  21. #21
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Texas
    Pinkdot: No need to apologize - we taffers complain alot about things we've never even attempted to do ourselves, like making an FM. You have a fantastic start here (and all the more impressive being a first attempt). As someone else mentioned, there are a ton of great touches here, like the accumulating snow effect, great lighting, and intriguing gameplay. I'm looking forward to your tweaked version!

    Bassmanret: There is only one area in the caves you'll need to find - you'll know it when you find it - and when you do, look VERY closely ALL OVER that area to find what you need. If you need a hint:

    spoiler:
    Be sure to get wet

  22. #22
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: 0x0x0
    Well I really liked it. I had trouble at the end but that's because i forgot to read something.

    I look forward to seeing the idea developed further.

  23. #23
    New Member
    Registered: Jan 2006
    Location: Ontario, Canada

    What tree??

    i cant find this tree everyone knows so much about O_o and its driving me insane, its obviously one of the ones beside the tower, but how the hell do you climb them???

  24. #24
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2004
    Location: Ireland/Poland
    I think you mixed up "The First Day of Winter" and "Winter Holiday". There's no tower in "The First Day...". And there's no need to climb anywhere in "Winter Holiday".

  25. #25
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2001
    Location: Tatry Mountains, Poland
    Quote Originally Posted by PinkDot
    I think you mixed up "The First Day of Winter" and "Winter Holiday". There's no tower in "The First Day...". And there's no need to climb anywhere in "Winter Holiday".
    Pink, isn't it strongly adviced to climb a tree in your mission?

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