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Thread: "The Rebellion of the Builder" Mar. 29/06

  1. #176
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Australia

    Broken machine

    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterShadow
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    Find Christines sword, hidden near the broken machine you mentioned in your post. You will have to find another hidden switch first (near another broken machine) and also to remove that stone wall block.
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    Hmm, another broken machine...I don't recall seeing one, apart from a spider bot and sleeping robot. Couldn't see any button near them tho. Can you possibly provide me with a hint at where that other machine is?

  2. #177
    Ghost
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Gaaaaaaah! Now I need a fourth lockpick!

    I'm sure that's what we get out of the thing Essaniael was asking about, right?

    Cheese and rice. Gotta love the endlessly spawning gun gals. I second E's question... those are the only two other broken machines I found, and I didn't find what he was looking for, either.

    Explicit instructions, please? Thanks,

    Dafydd

  3. #178
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2000
    Location: South Carolina

    Backroom in Bar?

    Okay, so I've opened the door to the backroom, and
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    I've pushed the sequence of three buttons around the bar, but what does that do? I know there's supposed to be a secret involoving loot, but I can't find anything.
    A little help please?

  4. #179
    Ghost
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Skulduggerist, look across from the bar: a tiny door opens in the wall.

    Run like hell and grab; you've got about three seconds!

    How did you open the metal door in the back of the bar?

    Dafydd

  5. #180
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2000
    Location: Jyvaskyla, Finland
    Skulduggerist, I don't know about the Backroom, I was never able to open it (although I know roughly where the key can be found).

    In fact I'd appreciate if youl could tell me where exactly it is?

    But the buttons have nothing to do with the Backroom. After you've pushed the last one,


    spoiler:
    look across the room from the bar counter, you'll see something, but you've got to hurry.


    Okay, Dafydd got there first. BTW, this is a great series, extremely challengeing though. I never found any water arrows or endless flashbombs in Mission 3 so I had to do without.

  6. #181
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2000
    Location: South Carolina
    Dafydd,
    I think the Mechanist Office Key opens that door, but I don't remember where I picked up the key. So no idea on
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    any loot in the backroom
    ?

  7. #182
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2000
    Location: Jyvaskyla, Finland
    ...Finished!!! Wow. I want to play this again! Right now!

    And this is to show what too many tiled floors and narrow escapes can do to a person: I wanted to replay the whole series, but this time on "Man's World", so I could

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    head for Christine's sword straight away, and then I would shoot everybody, I mean everybody, on this estate. Then I was planning to go and jump up and down on that marble floor in front of the fountain in the back hall. But the book switch doesn't work that way on this difficulty level. Rats.


    Oops. Strike that.
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    Wrong book, spent right now 30 minutes at Massacre Central


    Anyway, started replaying it on Death Wish. Now that I know how to do it, it took me about 5 minutes to break into the manor and open the back door. I don't know about the rest of the mission, let alone Missions 2 and 3. I doubt whether they are going to be that easy.
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    Anyway, I can blast the haunts and bots now...
    Last edited by Roz; 5th Apr 2006 at 14:46.

  8. #183
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: Freetown PEI Canada
    Would some please elaborate on how to find Christine's sword . I have to finish this mission pack before I get too fustrated and go freakin' postal on my poor pc .

  9. #184
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Australia

    Fourth lockpick

    Quote Originally Posted by Dafydd
    Gaaaaaaah! Now I need a fourth lockpick!

    Dafydd
    spoiler:
    The fourth "lockpick" is not actually a lockpick but another implement that may be found in the basement near the broken spiderbot.

  10. #185
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2000
    Location: Jyvaskyla, Finland
    Quote Originally Posted by bdkl
    Would some please elaborate on how to find Christine's sword . I have to finish this mission pack before I get too fustrated and go freakin' postal on my poor pc .
    bdlk, Dafydd had an excellent strategy for that, it's somewhere on page 5-7 on this thread.

  11. #186
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: Sauerland
    Ok, 3rd mission, Mechanist Church.

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    Where EXACTLY is the key to the locked double door left from the entrance (with the broken mech)? When itīs in the library then: Where? I searched them damned bookshelfs for a hour... Is the double door the way to the mace? And am I really supposed to get by them hyperactive mechs? What is the button in the edge of the library for, that is frobbable but cannot be seen? And how the hell am I supposed to know of this button? (read about it in this thread, never had found it on my own...)


    I already solved the Angel Room and have the next objective for the mech lab but want to finish the Mech Church first.

    Thx.

  12. #187
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2006
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by nil8hate
    okay...for those of use who are math impaired, what does ^ mean? and could you just TELL me the number?

    btw...i am pretty sure i have "played" the wings right...but no result...can someone tell me the order they did it in?
    1st: x^y means x to the power of y. In this case you should calculate the square of 66 and that is 66*66 and that is 66 times 66. The solution number has been already posted several times in this thread.
    2nd: left and right means here relative to standing directly in front of the statues and looking into their face. Now pull out your compass and the correct sequence is:
    NW left, SE right, NE right, SW left

    [edit]Keywords: angel wings code music[/edit]
    Last edited by SinisterShadow; 9th Apr 2006 at 14:10.

  13. #188
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2006
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by ciscokidd73
    I cant find my way out of the forest of dispair. I KO'd everyone i saw and snagged whatever loot i could find. got the ladys key and used it and found switch behind spotlight. I cant find a way outta here. I need spoilers or a walkthrough. Please Help!
    Did you reach the Treebeast section? And to make things clear I don't mean that Treebeast standing in front of that chest in the forest.

  14. #189
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: ┴W 'ɐlnossᴉW

    Just to let everyone know about the fourth mission...

    OK, there are some doors that require more than the lockpicks you start with.

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    The screw drivers can also be used as lockpicks.

  15. #190
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2006
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by Dafydd
    Thanks, SinisterShadow, for the hint; I found it and continued[...]
    I think (just because it's the only unopened door) it's the locked double doors just inside the route to the mace, left of where the fire used to be; but if so, I can't get it open with any key I have, and it's not pickable.
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    The key you need is the "Left Wing Key" which is located in the mechanists library

    Also, somebody said that I would find something in the Mechanists' church that would allow me to open the locked door in the bar, but I haven't yet.
    Do you mean the Backdoor? If so the key you are searching for is the "Mechanist Office Key", located in the chest in the high gravity room.

    I sure hope the key to the Lab isn't in the room the mace was in! I'd hate to have to go back there.
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    You can try to lure the combatbots in this area into the burning fire, so they eventually get destroyed: head for the high gravity room but stop at the big hole in the floor (in the shadows of course) then jump a few times to make some noise. The combatbots will come in a haste to investigate. If you are placed right they won't see you and sometimes one of them runs through the fire and takes damage. If you get one of those golden bots to explode while the others are still around you have destroyed if not all but at least most of them in one go, without wasting any ressources. If there are combatbots left or they are returning back to their starting room, you repeat the complete procedure. It could take quite some time though.

  16. #191
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2006
    Location: Germany

    Broken machines in Mechanists Labs

    Quote Originally Posted by essaniael
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    Hmm, another broken machine...I don't recall seeing one, apart from a spider bot and sleeping robot. Couldn't see any button near them tho. Can you possibly provide me with a hint at where that other machine is?
    spoiler:
    You will also need an "upgrade" to your lockpick collection first. (See GORTs post). Then head to the place where you found keycard #1.

  17. #192
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2006
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by essaniael
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    The fourth "lockpick" is not actually a lockpick but another implement that may be found in the basement near the broken spiderbot.
    Hope you found the fifth "lockpick" as well.

  18. #193
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2006
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by bdkl
    Would some please elaborate on how to find Christine's sword . I have to finish this mission pack before I get too fustrated and go freakin' postal on my poor pc .
    How to find the sword depends on which mission you are currently playing.

  19. #194
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Australia

    Hidden sword

    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterShadow
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    You will also need an "upgrade" to your lockpick collection first. (See GORTs post). Then head to the place where you found keycard #1.
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    Ok, so I opened the door to the other machine and fired an arrow at the button next to the note that says "Do not push this button" (which nearly killed me). But I still can't see any sword near the crystal conversion machine in the basement.

  20. #195
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: ┴W 'ɐlnossᴉW
    That's not the button!!!

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    It's actually a leaver. Search to the right of the room. It's hard to see.

  21. #196
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2006
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by WildWilbur
    Ok, 3rd mission, Mechanist Church.

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    Where EXACTLY is the key to the locked double door left from the entrance (with the broken mech)? When itīs in the library then: Where? I searched them damned bookshelfs for a hour...
    Did you search the bookshelfs from above?
    spoiler:
    Is the double door the way to the mace?
    No.
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    And am I really supposed to get by them hyperactive mechs?
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    You don't need to do that, if you don't care about loot.

  22. #197
    Member
    Registered: May 2003
    Location: Indiana USA

    Doomsday Project Mission 4?

    Having a problem with the gravity room. I jump and up we go but I can't move into the room. Can't jump, creep or walk off...is there a trick to getting off this thing? Thanks Coreyb2

  23. #198
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: ┴W 'ɐlnossᴉW
    spoiler:
    Due to the way this game works, you can't move in mid air from a stand still jump.
    So, you'll have to do a walking jump.

  24. #199
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Australia
    Quote Originally Posted by GORT
    That's not the button!!!

    spoiler:
    It's actually a leaver. Search to the right of the room. It's hard to see.
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    To the right of the room or to the right in the room? I can't see any lever in this room with the machine bearing the red LED numbers.

  25. #200
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: ┴W 'ɐlnossᴉW
    spoiler:
    It's right to the right side of that machine. The machine is blockin' the view, but you can still move the lever.

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