Cool, it makes the box look better.
http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.as...142&mid=328754
Self explanitory really. I don't think we were expecting anything else.
Also, 'tis quite a good price for Bioshock, but I'll wait to see what play.com can offer.
Last edited by Haegan; 17th Feb 2007 at 05:36.
Cool, it makes the box look better.
£30, apparently.Originally Posted by Haegan
September 2007?Do they know something we don't?
No I trust Elizabeth2K and her call for a June release date.I dont care if its
pricy,and I am happy to see a 18+ rating
edit: I am VERY happy to see an adult rating on this title !!!
I trust Elizabeth too but it would be nice to see a comment from her about this. I really hope, BioShock won't be delayed.
Delays are better than a hurried release. I don't mind delays if it means I don't need to download a 200 MB patch later.
id rather spend 4 hours downloading a patch and play BioShock a week early. im sure i wouldnt say that a week after release, but the urge cant be denied
Well, if they delay the game to optimise it or to finish it, so it wond need a patch soon after release, it would be okay. I mean, if it would be something like the PC version of Star Trek: Legacy, delay it for a year!But I do hope, this date is a mistake. Everything seems to be okay, nobody said anything like, the developement process isn't going well or something... And I'm sure they woudn't let us know this way.
I think we are worrying over nothing but a confirmation of no delays would be very much appreciated.
I hope June is the correct release month, since September means 5 days of the week are schooldays.
You can play in the evenings. Who needs sleeping?I hope June is the correct release month, since September means 5 days of the week are schooldays.
I usually go to bed around 3 AM, 5 - 6 AM on weekends. But in summer vacations I stay awake to 4 - 6 AM all days.
I will most definitely only play BioShock after midnight.
18? Has that happened before? Weren't Doom and Hitman etc all 15+?
What precisely do you mean? It's certainly not the first game to be rated 18+, and probably not the first shooter (first person or otherwise).
The latest Doom and Hitman games are both rated 18 in the UK...
Right. I wasn't aware of that.
Games with violence gets a higher rating in Europe while games with nudity gets a higher rating in the US.
For example, Fahrenheit (AKA Indigo Prophecy) was released 1.5 years ago and had a bit of nudity so the US version had to be a bit censored so it wouldn't recive a AO rating (which is a bad choice since very few stores sell AO games), while in Europe the uncensored version was rated 16.
Bioshock will most likely not recive a 18 age rating in the US, but the M for mature rating.
It seems BioShock might not have been presented yet (but it proabably (almost certainly) will be rated 18)
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search/index.php
BBFC database search results for the term "bioshock"
How could anyone expect this game to be played by minors is beyond me, especially after seeing the X06 trailer
also note that age ratings in the uk are legally enforced like movie sales
The X06 trailer was not gameplay footage. There will definitely not be anything like that in-game, and the actual gameplay footage we have is relatively borderline stuff, so I think it's a fair discussion. I still don't understand though, HAS BioShock been presented or not. I see the rating on the site, but it certainly seems like it wouldn't have (and probably hasn't) been presented yet.
Why is that the case? To avoid possible legal actions against them for silly reasons?
Probably not legal action so much as the threat of boycott efforts by people who feel it's their responsibility to police such things. I imagine adult-rated games don't sell very well, either, so there's no reason for a store to bother.
The prototypical AO game is like a hentai game. I'd think marketing reasons alone would be enough to keep them out.
It's embarassing enough to bring kids to a movie rental store when one aisle is pornography. But it'd be even worse with videogames, most of which cater to younger people -- alienating probably the key demographic (mothers bringing kids to malls) while ignoring a negligible market. So most Western stores just have a policy against them. Part of the whole violence/sex double standard, I guess.
But I tend to think it's ok (for us mature folk) because unless having sex is what the game is about (and it really deserves the AO rating), it's not going to be essential to be that graphic, anyway. It'd just be another cut-scene, an aside to the game, and so not really offering much in the grand scheme of the game, certainly not worth the cost.
Edit: to respond to Bjossi's post vvv, I don't think anybody's worried about literal boycotting. To my mind, it's just getting mothers in the door and feeling comfortable having their kids searching the shelves. Most game shops aren't like DVD rental stores. The room's area is smaller. You can see *all* the shelves and games from the center of the room. They are grouped by system, not genre. So games sell themselves based on their display capturing attention from that perspective, much more so than DVDs or books shelved in semi-isolated aisles by genre. It'd hurt a game shop much more than a DVD rental place to have to set aside a substantive chunk of his already small room to take it (and everything behind it) *out* of central display like every other shelf, just to accomodate a non-public, backroom shelf of hentai games that aren't going to sell much anyway (unlike Japan, there isn't a culture of (or market for) masterbating to videogames in the West; remember, like with DVDs, AO is a genre, a kind of signal that the intention here is to masterbate to this game. The vast majority are hentai.). And who wants to call blatent attention to themselves and go back there when everything else is in wide-open display? It would be so conspicuous. You have to think from the perspective of the seller wanting to get moms feeling comfortable entering his shop and keeping all the games on central display grouped by system, not genre.
Last edited by demagogue; 18th Feb 2007 at 22:39.
Why boycotting rated games? Is it so hard for parents and computer store clerks to actually follow the ratings when selling games to the kids, that they need to get rid of rated games altogether?
Yes, the same way under 16s always manage to get cigarettes. It's just a fact of life, so some stores avoid the possibility of controversy altogether by not stocking the thing at all.
Are there any XBox 360 games that are rated 18 in the UK or AO in the USA at the moment?
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